JiksTBS Players 255 posts 13,157 battles Report post #1 Posted December 6, 2020 Dear WG, As you will have noticed, another PR disaster is unfolding. However, this one is easily fixed and turned into something will generate a lot of goodwill, which is a very valuable commodity. Just follow these simple steps: 1. Apologise for the Santa gift short list business. 2. Suspend sale of Santa gift items. 3. Re-code drops to be without the short list. 4. Give everyone who has bought a Santa gift under the previous rules this season another with the new drop rules. 5. Resume selling Santa Gifts. 6. Profit! My fellow players, please feel free to tear this idea to bits as is traditional. 13 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pow_tae_toe Players 108 posts 8,580 battles Report post #2 Posted December 6, 2020 I'm not sure that's gonna be enough.. Most ppl lost fate in WG and their way of doing buisness after this xmasgate 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #3 Posted December 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, JiksTBS said: As you will have noticed, another PR disaster is unfolding. And from experience we know WG is going to try to shove both feet into their mouth by ignoring it, lying to the players, and maybe even insulting us. Don't expect anything from them and you won't be disappointed. 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiksTBS Players 255 posts 13,157 battles Report post #4 Posted December 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Aragathor said: And from experience we know WG is going to try to shove both feet into their mouth by ignoring it, lying to the players, and maybe even insulting us. Don't expect anything from them and you won't be disappointed. They do have a terrible habit of doing that kind of stuff, yes. However, arwful cliche but this can be Win/Win if they want ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #5 Posted December 6, 2020 1. Admit nothing is wrong and delay the problem until next work day 2. Ban every mention of it in a featured stream 3. Drop a poor, written excuse on the bottom page of the news 4. Generously compensate players with 3x Zulu flags for the trouble 5. Public image restored 12 18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #6 Posted December 6, 2020 Nah, they just have given up on this game and want to milk the cow to the maximum before they pull the plug. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SWN] Asatori Players 377 posts 11,666 battles Report post #7 Posted December 6, 2020 A company like WG is never going to flat out admit what they did, because they know it's wrong and admitting it opens them up to legal problems. They are going to say something along the lines where "they are sorry we feel that Santa boxes don't live up to our expactations" See what they do? They are basicly telling us its our fault/problem that we have issues with them without admitting they are in the wrong here. It's legal 101 for game developers, never admit anything, make it the players fault/problem and say how sorry you are about the players feelings. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #8 Posted December 6, 2020 They ain't gonna admit sh*t. You ain't gonna get sh*t. If they cared they would have done something by now. They don't give sh*t about this. They wanna whale out as much money as possible and they gonna ban everything related to this. Just for the hell of it they are gonna give everyone a Makarov for free if they claim it on the website and if you already have one you will be compensated with equal dubs and that's it. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #9 Posted December 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Humorpalanta said: Just for the hell of it they are gonna give everyone a Makarov for free if they claim it on the website and if you already have one you will be compensated with equal dubs credits and that's it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #10 Posted December 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, JiksTBS said: Dear WG, As you will have noticed, another PR disaster is unfolding. However, this one is easily fixed and turned into something will generate a lot of goodwill, which is a very valuable commodity. Just follow these simple steps: Hmm.. Quote 1. Apologise for the Santa gift short list business. Never gonna happen Have you ever bought any IRL item from an IRL Russian ? (car, outboard engine, bike, car radio, tennis racket) If so you would know how they traditionally do business.. Man of his word ? Quote 2. Suspend sale of Santa gift items. Not likely Quote 3. Re-code drops to be without the short list. No need Quote 4. Give everyone who has bought a Santa gift under the previous rules this season another with the new drop rules. Haha.. Quote 5. Resume selling Santa Gifts. Resume, no need.. Quote 6. Profit! Yeah.. They will be laughing their heads off all way home Quote My fellow players, please feel free to tear this idea to bits as is traditional. Your welcome (Even Jeebus had a hard time saving the world) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #11 Posted December 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, JiksTBS said: As you will have noticed, another PR disaster is unfolding. However, this one is easily fixed.... No I don't think it is.....They would have to do something very special to re Establish trust to the player base. Its not like this is the first time they have been deceitful and I don't think a Few tokens here and there will cut it this time. Trust is easy and quick to loose. Very hard to get back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,226 battles Report post #12 Posted December 6, 2020 More likely they will apologize for our misunderstanding of their 'generous' offer, do nothing and know that the majority of the community will forget all about this in 4-6 weeks time when the next shiny bauble is dangled in front of us. Sorry to be pessimistic but knowing this community people might complain but they never learn. 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiksTBS Players 255 posts 13,157 battles Report post #13 Posted December 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, SeaWolf7 said: Trust is easy and quick to loose. Very hard to get back. Very true and that's why something like my idea is needed as a minimum. My way, everyone get's what they thought they were buying in addition to the stuff they have got already and WG would would very likely to make more money than if they follow their usual ... practices. I think it's very unlikely WG will be that sensible but there is no reason they can't salvage this situation if they want. BTW, I havn't bought any of those crates so have no dog in the fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MUMMY] rage1750 Players 824 posts 11,400 battles Report post #14 Posted December 6, 2020 From previous experience I see it going down something like this: Blame playerbase for "not understanding / reading correctly" Blame it on a translation issue Blame playerbase because it would not have been an issue if you had simply spent more Something nebulous gets blamed Spreadsheet says the crates are working as intended Whatever happens, it wont be WG's fault and WG wont have anything to apologise for thus no compensation for you. Merry Christmas to all our players 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #15 Posted December 6, 2020 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #16 Posted December 6, 2020 OP must be new here, he clearly doesn't understand how WG works. If he sticks around long enough, he will tho. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #17 Posted December 6, 2020 1. Spend one minute checking if any damage is done. 2. Nope, people are still whaling on fake-a$$ crates. 3. All is well carry on. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #18 Posted December 6, 2020 8 hours ago, JiksTBS said: As you will have noticed, another PR disaster is unfolding. In my country, we'd use the term "slaughtering the product". Who cares about possibly bad PR as long as people are buying crates like crazy and the profit is up. If you can make a great deal now, it's ok if the game is dead in 2 years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiksTBS Players 255 posts 13,157 battles Report post #19 Posted December 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said: OP must be new here, he clearly doesn't understand how WG works. If he sticks around long enough, he will tho. I've been around off and on since just after the game was released so I'm well aware of how WG usually handle things. However, it doesn't have to be that way. It is in their rational self interest to sort this out. Whether they can behave rationnally remains to be seen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
witteria Players 12 posts 1,898 battles Report post #20 Posted December 7, 2020 Thanks to Wargaming stunt they also fell very short of the donation for the Verizon stream charity. Shame on you wargaming SHAME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Dampfboot Players 1,367 posts 11,386 battles Report post #21 Posted December 7, 2020 17 hours ago, JiksTBS said: Dear WG, As you will have noticed, another PR disaster is unfolding. However, this one is easily fixed and turned into something will generate a lot of goodwill, which is a very valuable commodity. Just follow these simple steps: 1. Apologise for the Santa gift short list business. 2. Suspend sale of Santa gift items. 3. Re-code drops to be without the short list. 4. Give everyone who has bought a Santa gift under the previous rules this season another with the new drop rules. 5. Resume selling Santa Gifts. 6. Profit! My fellow players, please feel free to tear this idea to bits as is traditional. More like a golden opportunity for insulting the player base even more by censoring Twitch and creating another textbook example how to anger your customers by declaring: Working as intended, we need more cash, nothing to see here.... On the other hand WG has created a tradition of creating a PR disaster for every Christmas, so we should cherish the long held tradition. Please join me in remembering the Christmas convoy! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #22 Posted December 7, 2020 45 minutes ago, JiksTBS said: I've been around off and on since just after the game was released so I'm well aware of how WG usually handle things. However, it doesn't have to be that way. It is in their rational self interest to sort this out. Whether they can behave rationnally remains to be seen... They have neither the will not the skill to act in their rational self interest. Win-win is not in their dictionary. Forgive them, they know no better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harvin87 Players 269 posts 3,656 battles Report post #23 Posted December 7, 2020 Any idea about what time will the WG "announcement" be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-LIK-] FlamingHooligan Players 111 posts 10,163 battles Report post #24 Posted December 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Harvin87 said: Any idea about what time will the WG "announcement" be? Today supposedly "Monday" was mentioned in the twitch stream. May have been an attempt to shut all the trolls down so they could carry on unhindered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harvin87 Players 269 posts 3,656 battles Report post #25 Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutos antes, FlamingHooligan dijo: Today supposedly "Monday" was mentioned in the twitch stream. May have been an attempt to shut all the trolls down so they could carry on unhindered. Sound theory. Let's wait and see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites