Santas evening mission chain - really WG?

[Yedwy]

Really WG? 2300 base XP in one battle for opening the mission chain?

 

What do you guys think how often an average player even sees that number beside his/her name let alone in a 18 day time span?

[Notmi]

It is not a chainmission.

[Captain_Newman]

You don't need it to open anything, it's just one mission, there's 7 available in the first part, and you need to do 4 to complete it.

[Yedwy]

Damn you are right, seems I need more coffee... 

[Hades_warrior]

With or without that mission, there is no way I will farm so many Randoms to get all that base EXP (there is not that much of choice what to do as you can eliminate only 2 tasks) just for that ugly christmas T8 camo.

I'll pass. Thanks wg but I value my time invested in this game more than you.

[Yedwy]

15 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

With or without that mission, there is no way I will farm so many Randoms to get all that base EXP (there is not that much of choice what to do as you can eliminate only 2 tasks) just for that ugly christmas T8 camo.

I'll pass. Thanks wg but I value my time invested in this game more than you.

Well the 22k base xp total task is doable in most modes so you can do bunch of coops and it should add up?

[Hades_warrior]

6 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Well the 22k base xp total task is doable in most modes so you can do bunch of coops and it should add up?

Nope, its not in total. 22k is just first set of combat missions.

Next week is 27,5k base exp

And week after is another 37,5k base exp

So you do the math how much is this and how much time consuming 

Nearly 90k base exp in total.

[Yedwy]

2 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

Nope, its not in total. 22k is just first set of combat missions.

Next week is 27,5k base exp

And week after is another 37,5k base exp

So you do the math how much is this and how much time consuming 

Nearly 90k base exp in total.

Play clan brawl? 

[Hades_warrior]

1 minute ago, Yedwy said:

Play clan brawl? 

My current clan doesn't play CB's, and im not a fan of them anyway.

I'll just skip this event.

[Captain_Newman]

44 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Damn you are right, seems I need more coffee... 

 

I know exactly how you feel

[Aragathor]

WG went full dumbo with those requirements for the missions. No one will bother to grind it for a measly T8 camo with cheap trimmings.

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 19 Minuten, Hades_warrior sagte:

Nope, its not in total. 22k is just first set of combat missions.

Next week is 27,5k base exp

And week after is another 37,5k base exp

So you do the math how much is this and how much time consuming 

Nearly 90k base exp in total.

And? My math says it is certainly doable, unless you are a weekend player that only plays 2 days a week for 3-4 games a day. 

 

22k is 3k base if you play every day and 4.5 if you only play 5. 

 

3k base is what? 2-3 rounds depending on if your team manages to play for the win or not. 4 if you derp in one round and die early without having achieved anything. 

 

That's less than an hour of leisure time a day. A bit more of you don't play every day, but still doable without try harding. 

 

Coop only players will be screwed to some degree, but nobody forces them to not play randoms...

[Captain_Newman]

Just now, Khaba_Gandalf said:

And? My math says it is certainly doable, unless you are a weekend player that only plays 2 days a week for 3-4 games a day. 

 

22k is 3k base if you play every day and 4.5 if you only play 5. 

 

3k base is what? 2-3 rounds  depending on if your team manages to get a win or not.. 4 if you derp in one round and die early without having achieved anything. 

 

Coop only players will be screwed to some degree, but nobody forces them to not play randoms...

 

It's doable as long as one invests enough time daily. Personally, I'll probably get it, but won't be actively trying to get it - mostly because I have no need for that permacamo (had some from last year, wasn't even sure what to put them on so I put one on Mogami and the other on Aki... no idea what I'd put this one on).

[Yedwy]

1 minute ago, Captain_Newman said:

no idea what I'd put this one on).

Id say T8 pasta BB when they come round? Unless we get a permaflage there in some mission chain or whatnot...

[invicta2012]

6 minutes ago, Khaba_Gandalf said:

Coop only players will be screwed to some degree, but nobody forces them to not play randoms...

Miss out on a camouflage or drink the toxic soup of randoms? It's not a hard choice. :)

[Captain_Newman]

Just now, Yedwy said:

Id say T8 pasta BB when they come round? Unless we get a permaflage there in some mission chain or whatnot...

 

Possibly.. if it's good enough that I'll want to play it again after grinding it. I've still got one of those t9 epoch permacamos unassigned,  just got the Minnesota, but I'm not using it on it. The reason being, I've got a bunch of non-perma camos that are way better for grinding it, and after I'm done with it I highly doubt I'll be wanting to play the Minnesota much, or at all... so it needs to be a tech tree ship that I'd want to play again after grinding it. Not many of those that I went through recently..

[Hades_warrior]

5 minutes ago, Khaba_Gandalf said:

And? My math says it is certainly doable, unless you are a weekend player that only plays 2 days a week for 3-4 games a day. 

 

22k is 3k base if you play every day and 4.5 if you only play 5. 

 

3k base is what? 2-3 rounds  depending on if your team manages to get a win or not.. 4 if you derp in one round and die early without having achieved anything. 

 

That's less than an hour of leisure time a day. A bit more of you don't play every day, but still doable without try harding. 

 

Coop only players will be screwed to some degree, but nobody forces them to not play randoms...

This is not about how much you need in one week. You need 90k in total. 90,000 base EXP in 18 days time. But no matter how much time they give you this silly amount of base EXP for shitty T8 camo is dumb.

But if you like it, go for it. What else I can say.

Any smart player wont waste their time in this meta and current state of game in Randoms for some grindy events like this one.

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 3 Minuten, Captain_Newman sagte:

 

It's doable as long as one invests enough time daily. Personally, I'll probably get it, but won't be actively trying to get it - mostly because I have no need for that permacamo (had some from last year, wasn't even sure what to put them on so I put one on Mogami and the other on Aki... no idea what I'd put this one on).

True, but if you don't play regularly I don't see why someone should feel entitled to it. 

 

Also the economy is so screwed anyway, that t8 permaflages are not that useful anymore beyond being convenient (can't ran out of). 

 

I still have one left from last year anyway, so I don't care. WG gifted us so many perma camos recently that I have issues finding ships for those Christmas ones. Sure I could slap them one anything, but why waste it on a ship that you only play for snowflakes. 

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Even if one mission only, it means Santa's gonna skip my little hovel. On the plus side, more brandy for me...

[Hades_warrior]

2 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Even if one mission only, it means Santa's gonna skip my little hovel. On the plus side, more brandy for me...

Send me some of that brandy 

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 34 Minuten, invicta2012 sagte:

Miss out on a camouflage or drink the toxic soup of randoms? It's not a hard choice. :) 

 

I personally don't get how people could waste hours in a PVE mode of game where the devs give a sh*t about it, rather than play something else where the publisher cares about the SP or coop part of the game... 

 

Vor 25 Minuten, Hades_warrior sagte:

 

I'd don't waste my time because I either play randoms with my clan mates or the upcoming brawl events anyway, so I'm not grinding. I either get the Camo simply by playing the game or I don't. 

 

If the later one is the case, I won't be annoyed because a) the economic (credit) gain from them is pretty much negligible nowadays since WG removed premium consumables and b) the xp/fxp/ECXP gain if you grind a ship is less than what you get from other camouflages. And those WG hands out like candy, if you are only remotely playing the game regularly and don't fire it up only once or twice a month. 

 

Those numbers are nothing, nothing compared to what WG wanted us to achieve with German ships for the fugly Bismarck Camo. A Camo for a ship that already has like what 4? free event camos. 

 

 

 

[Dutchy_2019]

You need 4 missions per directive to complete it. Each directive there is a choice of 7 missions:

 

- 2 of those missions are pretty much out of reach for most players because of their requirement: high amount of single game Base XP and Requirement to own specific ships.

 

- Of the 5 are left, the cumulative Base XP mission is hard (and IMHO in the end over the top) for most players, simply because of the time required to earn that much Base XP. That leaves 4 missions that are reasonable to complete, IMHO, assuming you are willing to play Co-op, Ops and Randoms:

 

Directive 1:

 

- 12 hits to citadel or incaps / 55k fire or flooding damage - easy

- 25 Destroyed ribbons -easy 

- 12 Battles top 3; hard for some, but IMHO doable when one is willing to play Co-op and/or Ops.

- 70 Commander XP: Very doable if you are willing to spend special flags and camos. It could be done in 3 games in Narai, for example.

 

Directive 2:

 

- 10 captures/assisted in capture/defended ribbons - easy.

- Get 1150 ribbons - easy

- Get 100 torp hist / destroyed / hits to citadel: - doable, especially in Co-op. 

- Earn 60k XP - doable, especially with the use of camos and flags. Depending on game modes, most of the 3 previous directives will be done along the way to completing this one.

 

Directive 3:

 

- 500k damage: easy

- Earn 10 achievements: probably difficult for many, also only in Randoms.

- In 25 battles, join top 3: doable when using Co-op.

- 4 million credits: doable, and probably completed while trying to earn 10 achievements or have 25 top 3 finishes.

 

The problem I see for many/most is Directive 3. This one is very grindy. The way I personally would tackle directive 3, is try and earn 10 achievements in Randoms, and then complete the 25 top 3 in Co-op.

 

Conclusion: I am not sure about the reward - the Special Christmas Camo - is worth all the effort to get it if one does not have time. And I honestly hope that this is NOT a preview of what is to come for the Dockyard End Of Year event.

[Hades_warrior]

10 minutes ago, Khaba_Gandalf said:

I personally don't get how people could waste hours in a PVE mode of game where the devs give a sh*t about it, rather than play something else where the publisher cares about the SP or coop part of the game... 

 

 

I'd don't waste my time because I either play randoms with my clan mates or the upcoming brawl events anyway, so I'm not grinding. I either get the Camo simply by playing the game or I don't. 

 

If the later one is the case, I won't be annoyed because a) the economic (credit) gain from them is pretty much negligible nowadays since WG removed premium consumables and b) the xp/fxp/ECXP gain if you grind a ship is less than what you get from other camouflages. And those WG hands out like candy, if you are only remotely playing the game regularly and don't fire it up only once or twice a month. 

 

Those numbers are nothing, nothing compared to what WG wanted us to achieve with German ships for the fugly Bismarck Camo. A Camo for a ship that already has like what 4? free event camos. 

 

 

 

Good for you. Im considering to quit Randoms, once and for all. Because quality of Randoms is bad for several years. With 2020 it got much worse, and things looks like it will only getting even worse so I dont see point of playing that mode anymore if you dont grind some line.

Uh, dont remind me on that ugly Bismarck camo... Im happy I skip'd that grind. I do have that yellow turrent camo for several years now that looks ok.

[BanzaiPiluso]

2 hours ago, Yedwy said:

Really WG? 2300 base XP in one battle for opening the mission chain?

 

What do you guys think how often an average player even sees that number beside his/her name let alone in a 18 day time span?

2300 base xp in one battle? Obviously is only randoms and you have to be excellent in one battle.

Not impossible but it takes time.

Hard pass on this one.

 

[Captain_Newman]

90000 bxp over 18 days means 5000 bxp per day on average. Or 2-3 battles daily for a decent player. This is hardly some unconquerable mountain. Even coop players can easily get this one since coop games are faster, and scoring between 400-600 bxp per battle would mean about 10 coop games daily, not that hard or time consuming...