[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #1 Posted December 1, 2020 I buy 30,000 doubloons once a year when my 30% coupon arrives. I’m getting doubts if I have to invest in the game for the upcoming year. We have mediocre but grindy dockyard ships, indirect nerf to premiums with the captain rework, upcoming broken ships, more and more blowout matches, game unplayable during the weekend, etc... 41 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,900 battles Report post #2 Posted December 1, 2020 I've still got over 400 days left so there is no reason to get another year. With submarines due at some stage that's another reason to not do so again. 18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] rimmer_the Players 407 posts Report post #3 Posted December 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said: I buy 30,000 doubloons once a year when my 30% coupon arrives. I’m getting doubts if I have to invest in the game for the upcoming year. We have mediocre but grindy dockyard ships, indirect nerf to premiums with the captain rework, upcoming broken ships, more and more blowout matches, game unplayable during the weekend, etc... Have you tried War Thunder ? I agree with you. Even tho I am treating myself due to another contract renewal, that money will be spent in another game, not WOWS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] The_Chiv Players 1,592 posts 18,060 battles Report post #4 Posted December 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said: I buy 30,000 doubloons once a year when my 30% coupon arrives. I’m getting doubts if I have to invest in the game for the upcoming year. We have mediocre but grindy dockyard ships, indirect nerf to premiums with the captain rework, upcoming broken ships, more and more blowout matches, game unplayable during the weekend, etc... Again? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOKRN] BlackFish__ Players 182 posts 15,689 battles Report post #5 Posted December 1, 2020 On black Fiday I have spent more than 100EUR on heavily discounted games. Not a cent on World of Warships. A couple of years ago most of it would have been spent here. Good job WG. NOT. 24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #6 Posted December 1, 2020 Seeing as the decisions by WG are getting dumber by the day, yeah it's time to consider alternatives. Good thing I have developed a whisky collecting habit. 14 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LADA] Gvozdika [LADA] Players 975 posts 10,423 battles Report post #7 Posted December 1, 2020 Not quite sure why you're asking on here whether you wish to give WG money or not. It is your wallet and your vote! I haven't spent a penny since the CV reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeework because I think WG has been steadily moving away from the core game that I originally enjoyed so much. Daft Russian dreamships pumped out in stupid numbers, submarines looming on the horizon, the Puerto Rico debacle, the constant drive to squeeze lootbox mechanics into techtree releases, hybrids - I don't want to finance that kind of behaviour. I still play because I get enjoyment from WOWS but I choose not to subsidise their stranger and whackier ideas. I sunk 7 years into WoT but now refuse to play it because it is an utterly joyless experience - thankfully I'm not quite there yet with this game but I have no sense of loyalty to WG whatsoever. There are plenty of games vying for my money + time that I enjoy more and agree with the direction of development - so thats where the money goes! That and a rather expensive car habit. Still not sure which makes more sense - blowing money on petrol or pixels.... ah well - both make exciting noises and appeal to the inner nine year old. Free market economy in action baby. War thunder is fun for tanking and air shenanigans but alas, WOWS doesn't have a direct competitor for naval action. 23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #8 Posted December 1, 2020 With the exceptions of a couple of the charity events, I basically stopped spending money on this game after the CV rework. Between submarines and captain skill rework, I don't see this game having much more life for me. I'll probably play a bit more this month, but after that? Dunno, the captain skill rework looks like it's going to make the game even less dynamic and going to nerf a lot of my favourite ships in the process. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-L-L] peoplescavalry Players 531 posts 13,011 battles Report post #9 Posted December 1, 2020 If they brought out some Premium mid tier ships I would happily buy them , hightiers not so much. Tier5-8 feel far more sensible than the extremes of ship design further up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #10 Posted December 1, 2020 Short asnwer is - yes. And speaking of weekends, game is unplayable for 2-3 years now Because all that you said, im playing for a while now more Co op than PvP. Why? Because there are no utter trash teams. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #11 Posted December 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Gvozdika said: I sunk 7 years into WoT but now refuse to play it because it is an utterly joyless experience Same here. Which is a pity, because I used to love that game. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zieten Beta Tester 298 posts 6,940 battles Report post #12 Posted December 1, 2020 Already did. 2020 gave me not a single sign that anything will get better in this game. Which is a shame because fundamentally this is still a good game - but apparently it is run by people who don't play it themselves. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #13 Posted December 1, 2020 At this point I'm starting to think they'd rather have a revolving door for players, constantly having newbies in, veterans out - newbies won't really know how things were and how much effort they're putting into making every aspect of the game worse. I doubt WG will cry after a single veteran player that's been around for years and left due to their decisions lately - it's just one less person complaining. Cynical, but you can't say the bean counters lack consistency... 22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #14 Posted December 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: At this point I'm starting to think they'd rather have a revolving door for players, constantly having newbies in, veterans out - newbies won't really know how things were and how much effort they're putting into making every aspect of the game worse. I doubt WG will cry after a single veteran player that's been around for years and left due to their decisions lately - it's just one less person complaining. Cynical, but you can't say the bean counters lack consistency... Good for all of you for closing your wallets and for me, since I haven't spent one cent on the game. Let me bust your (our) bubble, though: it doesn't matter one tiny bit. Look at how many ARP Crapatos sell, how many Puerto Ricos and Anchorages. How many lootboxes. A couple of old men yelling at clouds won't change anything, the writing is on the wall. And to the quote above, of course WG would prefer newbies to veterans. People who have 400 ships will buy what? Maybe some premium time, maybe one or two new ships. New players? Who knows, all the shiny, useless things. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #15 Posted December 1, 2020 In my opinion 8.0 was for me the first nail in the coffin. Now the influx of high tier premium ships with low tier skilled players, the prospect of Submarines that WG insisted they'd never introduce, it makes it even less likely that I will again open my wallet for this game. WG lost 15 players with the 8.0 release, that I know of personally, all of whom were premium buying ship buying players; I think WG has been after a short quick fix to make up for their losses post 8.0 and it has turned this game into a total show. I have 20 days premium time left (Black Friday Containers) after they are used that's it for me. 10 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] Kathapalt Beta Tester 65 posts 5,425 battles Report post #16 Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Migantium_Mashum said: In my opinion 8.0 was for me the first nail in the coffin. Now the influx of high tier premium ships with low tier skilled players, the prospect of Submarines that WG insisted they'd never introduce, it makes it even less likely that I will again open my wallet for this game. WG lost 15 players with the 8.0 release, that I know of personally, all of whom were premium buying ship buying players; I think WG has been after a short quick fix to make up for their losses post 8.0 and it has turned this game into a total show. I have 20 days premium time left (Black Friday Containers) after they are used that's it for me. This is the thing with WG i dont get, was same with the WOT, I think I have spend over 1000e combined to these games and I like them really much. But Wg want´s me to stop spending by any means they can find. they did it with WOT, now they are doing it with wows. Just mind blowing stuff 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #17 Posted December 1, 2020 I'm out playing even remotely serious or at all since summer. No enthusiasm. Lost all interest in game. Love ships, that won't change, but this type of gameplay and marketing is not for serious people imo. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #18 Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said: I buy 30,000 doubloons once a year when my 30% coupon arrives. I’m getting doubts if I have to invest in the game for the upcoming year. We have mediocre but grindy dockyard ships, indirect nerf to premiums with the captain rework, upcoming broken ships, more and more blowout matches, game unplayable during the weekend, etc... Oh, man. don't do that. I mean, stocking up for the year (a lesson that i learned). In my case, i will never buy premium time for a year again, nowadays i buy short duration premium time when need it (no strings attached, this way i can leave the game with no further notice). Spend whatever amount you will find necessary but don't do long duration plans. Do it for specific reasons/things . I don't understand those people that waste large amount of money in special containers, casino style, to see if they get a ship, why don't they just buy it? I mean, do you (you as in general you) want Cossack? Why gamble on it? Just buy the freaking thing. Preserve yourself as much as you can. I was always a F2P guy, but i'm spending money in this probable twilight (subs) . Perhaps not a very smart thing to do but I'm not complaining or regret. Alabama was a lucky find. So I'm ok with that. I don't give much attention to the dockyard, the main ships are clearly meh, i have none because i didn't pursuit any so i preserved myself from unnecessary erosions and wares and i advice people to do the same. The rest, just sit down and enjoy the dusk there are cool sunsets, don't think if you'll see the next one, one day at a time. P.s.- I just resisted a major temptation, ARP Yamato. the possibility of bypassing a lot of grind, strait to the end of the line, 460's that can pen all things regardless, but as was i stalling myself i noticed the playstyle , a very stale one. So the impulse faded away. You see, i grinded a lot of ships, i have a lot of battles and what i discovered in the high tiers premiums , they have the power to disconnect you from the grind, from the ware or part of the ware , and you (you as in general you) can truly enjoy F2P without any more worries. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #19 Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said: And to the quote above, of course WG would prefer newbies to veterans. People who have 400 ships will buy what? Maybe some premium time, maybe one or two new ships. New players? Who knows, all the shiny, useless things. ATM I have 282 ships in my port (not counting Halloween one). A lot of them premiums. I've got 12k random battles and have been playing for years. There's plenty of stuff I could still get that seems interesting. Mainz would be nice. Wouldn't mind taking the z-35 for a spin. I could spend money on these; but I won't, for the following reasons: a) the commander rework is likely to screw these ships over and make them overall weaker, and b) the game is still going down the drain team wise to the point where it's almost unplayable, I don't really see myself sticking around for much longer if this persists, and I see nothing on the horizon that could change the current trends. I played a few battles today, all were completely one sided, in all I could tell who is going to win in the first 2 min, and none of them were actually fun. This has been happening more and more, WG doesn't seem to care so while there's still stuff I could pad my whale account with, at this point it would be throwing money away. I do generally agree with the overall tone of your post - the revolving door of players means the veterans leaving is largely irrelevant (though the competitive scene is suffering, and will suffer further, I doubt WG cares that much though). My decision to close my wallet isn't a protest one, it's basically common sense - game's losing it's appeal rapidly and there's a good chance I won't be around for much longer, so any money spent seems like a waste. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NORAY] FlyingBender Players 554 posts 14,736 battles Report post #20 Posted December 1, 2020 I usually have a month buget money for games. I have been spending that money here. But now, I have all the premium and tree ships that I want and seeing how WG works, well... I will buy some doubloons when I need them and little more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] Prophecy82 Players 3,362 posts 26,028 battles Report post #21 Posted December 1, 2020 I closed my wallets after Moskva-gate, since it opend my eyes how greedy WG had become. I can still enjoy the game, tho. Im running Premium time at the moment bcs I got a month due to CB and have enough of Dubloons from various events to buy useful stuff if needed. Spending money on Perma-Camos became a nono for me. I might buy a ship if I find something really interesting but I doubt it, since I have the feeling, that there wont be any more unique gamestyles to be discovered, especially in light of the Skill-Rework, which will make Sigfried (i.e.) rather bland (still good but bland). Also, WG tends to hide the interesting "freak-ships" in the shop for Coal and esp in RB. So no money usage needed there. To be honest, my main reason on spending/playing less is that WG failed miserably at improving and promoting clans/clanactivities... yet it is known for at least half a decade that socialising with other ppl binds players to a game. But no, we get the most solo play Halloween event till now.... WG is living under a rock. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #22 Posted December 1, 2020 A couple of years ago I was happily spending money on this game. However they are going in a direction that to say the least concerns me, so I don’t bother spending money on them anymore. It’s sad but oh well it was fun while it lasted and I have enjoyed myself. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,238 battles Report post #23 Posted December 1, 2020 The time to close your wallets has come and gone about two years ago. If you keep giving WG money at this stage after the CV rework, nobody can help you. It means paying to be griefed. 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #24 Posted December 1, 2020 @OP Well not necessarily s of yet, subs might be the game killer though so you might reconsider all year level of planning... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #25 Posted December 1, 2020 Vets should realise WG doesn't care for their business much. They will never tell you in your face, but their business decisions should speak for themselves. Their endgame is nonexistant really. All major changes have been facilitating inexperience players reaching the upper echelon of tiers quicker, and buying into tier 8 9 and 10 has never been more accessible. The gameplay quality of the game has suffered significantly due to WG's focus on resource hoarding and gambling over gameplay. I mean, they try, they are just not very succesfull in that regard in my eyes. In case of carriers gameplay quality was sacrificed not only for the carriers themselves, but for the game as a whole. I've stopped buying things for real money since late dec 2019. WG doesn't care actually. Neither do I. It's a simple transactional decision. The rework, the disgusting introduction of the dockyard and their abhorrent responses to that, the list of premium ships that have become obsolete to me due to META changes without changing the actual ships to retain their original gameplay value, the childish event gating off the Benham that I really liked which I didn't get and still can't buy for a reasonable price, the absurd inflation of prices in game, the relentless pushing of lootboxes etc. Unless you are new to the game I see no reason for anyone to spend cash on it whatsoever. It's digital stuff that has zero resell or monetary collectors value. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites