[1FA] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,001 posts 22,244 battles Report post #1 Posted November 27, 2020 Hi, a few of you might remember that I started keeping stats on the percentage of carrier Random battles I get with any given ship about a year ago or so because I thought that WG futzes with the matchmaking in order to protect aircraft carriers even more. So that on top of all the other protections for their precious CVs, the sacred class also has to endure fewer battles against those rare DDs that have almost adequate AA, viz., the top European ones. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11G0IGENL2SOSoJx8yP6Sz_RhVIk0hovHasSaWKiw1KM/edit#gid=1420727126 Admittedly, over time that suspicion was not borne out by the numbers, with both Friesland and Benham getting about the same 35.odd % of CV battles which is actually about one percent less than my tier average. And in any event, it was explained to me that even several dozens of battles per ship do not make the numbers statistically reliable. So I am reluctant to base more than very general trends on these numbers, not the least since they are a bit error-prone because I failed to devise a way to automate the count, or even just to make it semi-automatic, like by adding a button to the spreadsheet that just increases the number in question by one for each click. [1] That said though, in these past few weeks the feeling of something being wrong has returned. I can't seem to get in a Benham game these days without getting the godam fun police while Friesland gets barely any CVs. So three days ago I started a new count, and although these numbers are not even in the single digits yet, the ratio is actually 80% for Benham and 0% for Friesland. My current hypothesis is that some matchmaking rule is to blame for that, and at the top of my list is the mirroring of ship nationalities. "If possible, ships of different nations are distributed between teams on an even basis." Since there are US and Japanese and German and English carriers, but no Swedish ones, it stands to reason that the matchmaker is more prone to rope in a carrier for DDs of these nations to fulfill this rule, while it can't do that for European ships. I am not very algorithmically minded though, so what do you say? https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Matchmaking#Other_restrictions_in_Random_Battles Spoiler [1] Although that can apparently be done in Google spreadsheets, you need to write a discrete script and upload a discrete image for each of these buttons. You cannot simply drag or copy-paste them in the way you can every other kind of cell content. So that was way too much work for my taste. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 684 posts Report post #2 Posted November 27, 2020 All I can say is that every time I choose Def AA over Hydro, I tend to get fewer CV games... not that Def AA would do sh't anyway. Murphy's law, probably. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] rimmer_the Players 404 posts 3,590 battles Report post #3 Posted November 27, 2020 Div a Benham with a Friesland and see if the game explodes.... (In all seriousness, your nation theory would explain why Friesland gets so few CV battles) 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 3,654 posts 14,315 battles Report post #4 Posted November 28, 2020 My Halland get nothing but CV games. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] The_Chiv Players 881 posts 15,287 battles Report post #5 Posted November 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said: My Halland get nothing but CV games. IKR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1FA] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,001 posts 22,244 battles Report post #6 Posted November 28, 2020 Vor 5 Stunden, Bear__Necessities sagte: My Halland get nothing but CV games. As per the spreadsheet, mine gets just 52% on the EU server. But that is Tier X which gets more CVs anyway. Even on the NA server, it's just 68%. The difference is that I'm completely happy to play Halland without CVs since the torps are great and the stealth is adequate. Friesland, not so much. And Benham is completely ruined if the enemy CV is even semi-conscious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1FA] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,001 posts 22,244 battles Report post #7 Posted November 29, 2020 Am 28.11.2020 um 00:10, rimmer_the sagte: (In all seriousness, your nation theory would explain why Friesland gets so few CV battles) Then the only logical answer is to demand... Spoiler Swedish Aircraft Carriers!!1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Hidesuke [I-J-N] Players 6,127 posts Report post #8 Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 2:22 AM, Bear__Necessities said: My Halland get nothing but CV games. Use a full AA build. Problem solved! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MUMMY] Nov_A Beta Tester 455 posts 6,125 battles Report post #9 Posted November 29, 2020 I literally get a CV every game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,259 battles Report post #10 Posted November 29, 2020 @FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor you play way too many ships and very few battles in each one of them. I think i would be a better subject than you, just take a look at my profile, t6 and t7 i could help you with that if you want. It would take some time but i could provide you with a more focused and reliable data as a much bigger sample size just in a couple of ships. Let me know if you want my help. MM experience may vary person to person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 3,654 posts 14,315 battles Report post #11 Posted November 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Use a full AA build. Problem solved! Ahhh so THAT's where I've been going wrong :p 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Hidesuke [I-J-N] Players 6,127 posts Report post #12 Posted November 30, 2020 @FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Spoiler Psst.. Friesland is a Dutch ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1FA] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,001 posts 22,244 battles Report post #13 Posted November 30, 2020 Vor 6 Stunden, Karasu_Hidesuke sagte: @FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Inhalte verstecken Psst.. Friesland is a Dutch ship. Spoiler Pssst... In WoWs, Sweden and the Netherlands and Poland are the exact same thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites