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8 minuti fa, _FrostVortex_ ha scritto:

We adjusted the parameters of some ships based on testing results. The changes will be applied to Italian battleships, hybrids and some other ships.

 

Read more here: https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/99

Understandable changes to the Italian BBs tbh; i was expecting the SAP dmg nerf to Dante and Cavour after the other dev blog.

 

Tone and Ise, okay

 

Leone looks like its developement is a rollercoaster

 

Mysore, okay i guess

 

I'm concerned about Fen Yang; with 17mm HE pen you can't pen much; i personally think giving it 1/4 pen (25mm) would be better.

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ST 0.9.11, changes to test ships

We adjusted the parameters of some ships based on testing results. The changes will be applied to Italian battleships, hybrids and some other ships.

 

Italian battleships Dante Alighieri, Tier IV; Conte di Cavour, Tier V:

  • Accuracy of secondary guns lowered to the standard values.
  • Maximum SAP shell damage reduced from 9,600 to 7,850

Italian battleship Andrea Doria, Tier VI:

  • Main battery reload time reduced from 33 to 30 s.

Italian battleship Francesco Caracciolo, Tier VII:

  • Action time of the "Damage Control Party" consumable increased from 10 to 15 s;
  • Base main battery firing range increased from 15.5 to 15.9 km. 

Italian battleship Vittorio Veneto, Tier VIII:

  • Action time of the "Damage Control Party" consumable increased from 10 to 15 s;
  • Main battery reload time increased from 30 to 33 s. 

Italian battleship Lepanto, Tier IX:

  • Accuracy of secondary caliber guns lowered to the standard values.
  • Main battery reload time increased from 33 to 35 s. 

Italian battleship Cristoforo Colombo, Tier X:

  • Action time of the "Damage Control Party" consumable increased from 10 to 15 s;

Japanese battleship Ise, Tier VI; Japanese cruiser Tone, Tier VIII:

  • Squadron reload time increased from 120 to 180 s.

British cruiser Plymouth, Tier X:

  • Main battery reload time increased from 6.0 to 6.5 s.

Pan-Asian destroyer Fen Yang, Tier VIII:

  • HE shell parameters were changed:
    • Armor penetration reduced from 30 to 17 mm;
    • Maximum damage increased from 1,200 to 1,500;
    • Chance of causing fire on a target increased from 5% to 8%.
  • Main battery reload time increased from 3.0 to 4.0 s.

Italian destroyer Leone, Tier VI:

  • Torpedo tubes reload time reduced from 75 to 60 s.

Commonwealth cruiser Mysore, Tier VI:

  • Main battery reload time increased from 10.0 to 10.7 s.
  • RM SAP, finally, now more of that, then you can speed up the reload of Vittoria Veneto again
  • Hybrid CV, I still think it would be a better solution to make the planes AI controlled and activate them like consumables
  • Fen Yang, I do not mind the pen reduction, but the reload reduction at the the same time?
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They killed Fenyang!

 

It's HE won't even pen superstructure or same tier DDs anymore

 

Don't worry, it still has dpm.....

 

1200dmg x 8 guns x 15rpm = 144,000dpm

Akizuki has 192,000dpm.

 

 

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Unless they change anything Fen Yang is pretty much dead on arrival. 

 

1. You need to pay 4pt just to be able to pen a majority of DD's in your MM. Then you are 4pt down compared to akizuki with slightly worse fire chance and then you get a Reload penalty on top of that. 

2. With ifhe being mandatory to even make the ship work it loses any real synergy with the other PA ships. You don't want / need ifhe on any other PA DD (silver +prem) and while you could borrow the captain from Irian or huang meh, that would lead to some serious trade offs when it comes to skill distribution. 

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59 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

They killed Fenyang!

 

It's HE won't even pen superstructure or same tier DDs anymore

 

Don't worry, it still has dpm.....

 

1200dmg x 8 guns x 15rpm = 144,000dpm

Akizuki has 192,000dpm.

 

 

Well all they did is make IFHE mandatory... it still has better smokes.

 

Was fairly certain than WG buffed the HE pen on those 100mm guns to make IFHE not mandatory...

 

Italian BBs still need the SAP alpha reduced further then the reload can be un-nerfed and the sigma improved, atm they will be unfun to play and play against... WG have a real talent at making ship gimmicks unfun for all involved...

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1 hour ago, gopher31 said:

12001500dmg x 8 guns x 15rpm = 144180,000dpm

Fixed.

 

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Pan-Asian destroyer Fen Yang, Tier VIII:

 

  • HE shell parameters were changed:
    • Armor penetration reduced from 30 to 17 mm;
    • Maximum damage increased from 1,200 to 1,500;

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1 hour ago, gopher31 said:

It's HE won't even pen superstructure or same tier DDs anymore

 

High tier DDs have 13mm superstructure so it will pen them, just like CA/CL superstructure but that is all. It would not be able to pen DD hull (19mm) or BB in any place. 

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2 hours ago, Uglesett said:

Fixed.

 

Argh, read it incorrectly and even did maths!

Ah well, still not good but better than i stated.

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2 hours ago, fumtu said:

 

High tier DDs have 13mm superstructure so it will pen them, just like CA/CL superstructure but that is all. It would not be able to pen DD hull (19mm) or BB in any place. 

That's why I said superstructure or same tier DDs. It's possible you could target a destroyer's superstructure  but you'; be getting a lot of shatters and misses.

 

I wonder if they'll buff  this ship in a different way as so far, it doesn't look good.

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Vor 4 Stunden, Uglesett sagte:

Fixed.

 

Yeah, but another side effect:

 

Reload Nerf from 3s to 4s leads to...

 

1. HE DPM goes from 192k to 1800k (slight nerf)

2. AP DPM goes from 272k to 204k (noticable nerf)

 

And then if you combine that with the HE Pen change, you're basically in the same spot Akizuki was before they changed her pen from 1/6 to 1/4. You need IFHE to pen DDs, unless you gamble on them all being stupid blokes showing so much broadside that your AP will do the trick. In which case your in a even worse spot than old Akizuki was, because your reload is 33% worse than hers.  

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Clearly Fen Yang deserves the hammer of balans.

After all it gets DFAA.

:Smile_trollface:

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1 ora fa, El2aZeR ha scritto:

Clearly Fen Yang deserves the hammer of balans.

After all it gets DFAA.

:Smile_trollface:

who cares? after all it gets premium status so you buy it!

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Commonwealth cruiser Mysore, Tier VI:

  • Main battery reload time increased from 10.0 to 10.7 s.

Oh no, why you keep nerfing it, it has no torps WG!

Pan-Asian destroyer Fen Yang, Tier VIII:

  • HE shell parameters were changed:
    • Armor penetration reduced from 30 to 17 mm;
    • Maximum damage increased from 1,200 to 1,500;
    • Chance of causing fire on a target increased from 5% to 8%.
  • Main battery reload time increased from 3.0 to 4.0 s.

ATM this ship from 9/10 dropped to 3/10. It'll be garbage in comparison to Akizuki. WG hates Pan Asian ships even more than Japanese ones. Maybe the Germans are bashed more by WG. 

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10 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Commonwealth cruiser Mysore, Tier VI:

  • Main battery reload time increased from 10.0 to 10.7 s.

Oh no, why you keep nerfing it, it has no torps WG!

Pan-Asian destroyer Fen Yang, Tier VIII:

  • HE shell parameters were changed:
    • Armor penetration reduced from 30 to 17 mm;
    • Maximum damage increased from 1,200 to 1,500;
    • Chance of causing fire on a target increased from 5% to 8%.
  • Main battery reload time increased from 3.0 to 4.0 s.

ATM this ship from 9/10 dropped to 3/10. It'll be garbage in comparison to Akizuki. WG hates Pan Asian ships even more than Japanese ones. Maybe the Germans are bashed more by WG. 

Bummer - looks like Fen Yang is dead 

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32 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Bummer - looks like Fen Yang is dead 

Yeah, that could be alternative Akizuki, seems like it's going to be it's garbage version if this will be applied.

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6 hours ago, Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu said:

Perhaps reduce the Fen Yang HE penetration to 1/5th instead of 1/6th?

Nah, makes way too much sense. After all the new penetration rules for the IFHE rework were designed so that Jutland and Daring didn't need the skill anymore and the IJN gunboat DDs were fine with 1/4th but even got 3/10th. Therefore it's completely understandable that WG creates a new DD that has exactly the same problem they tried to get rid of for ages on other ships.

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Well Fen Yang did look like a better Akizuki... which basically means OP, given how strong Aki is. But such drastic changes? Not so sure about that...

 

Happy to see a (slight) Plymouth nerf. Another ship I feel might be a little too strong.

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On 11/20/2020 at 8:34 PM, El2aZeR said:

Clearly Fen Yang deserves the hammer of balans.

After all it gets DFAA.

:Smile_trollface:

Yes planes will fall right out of the sky... Oh wait. :Smile_sad:

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Vor 6 Stunden, gopher31 sagte:

Fenyang nerfed again, now 4.5s reload.

 

I wonder if they are giving it radar.....

:cap_popcorn: 

 

I mean okay it is an ex Japanese (remember tsuhima!) boat in the hands of filthy capitalist Chinese dissidents... 

 

Can't be good, had to be a people navy ships to get good like Anshan... 

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