New Orleans and Baltimore Cruisers

[Sille]

Is it only me that think they should get a faster reload and a bit more agilty, too make them more competitive?

[Deamon93]

Is it only me that think they should get a faster reload and a bit more agilty, too make them more competitive?

 

I'm at New Orleans and i don't have problems with her, i don't know Baltimore but she got recently buffed

[Sille]

 

I'm at New Orleans and i don't have problems with her, i don't know Baltimore but she got recently buffed

 

Well whats good whit her i cant really find anything....

[joov]

Guys..it is simple...Jap DD are outclassed by US DD...Jap Cruisers outclass the US Cruisers ( ex: Pepsicola vs MyokoRD stats) only good thing about US Cruisers is the aa (medium - high tire)

I have both Pepsi and Myoko (full upgraded). Myoko just feel Way better that the Pepsi and looking at the tech tree I don't see the US cruisers being any better than the Japs.

[Stugga]

I'm at Baltimore now, I found New Orleans just fine, the Balti feels a bit "heavy", but then again it's a heavy cruiser. I just wished its RoF was a bit higher, cuz you know, the tier 10 is a machine gun and the tier 9 is..... meh (in comparison)...

[Deamon93]

I'm at Baltimore now, I found New Orleans just fine, the Balti feels a bit "heavy", but then again it's a heavy cruiser. I just wished its RoF was a bit higher, cuz you know, the tier 10 is a machine gun and the tier 9 is..... meh (in comparison)...

Every heavy cruiser looks meh in comparison, like every light cruiser will look meh when the British Minotaur-class with ten 6" guns firing 20 rpm each shows up(the class was canceled after WWII and the gun was later used on Tiger).

[Stugga]

Every heavy cruiser looks meh in comparison, like every light cruiser will look meh when the British Minotaur-class with ten 6" guns firing 20 rpm each shows up(the class was canceled after WWII and the gun was later used on Tiger).

 

The tier 8 didn't feel "meh" in comparison to tier 9, same with tier 7 Vs tier 8 and ofc Cleve (tier 6) Vs tier 7. They felt ok to me (and ofc we all know Cleve felt OP...) Anyway,  it's just that the gap between tier 9 and 10 feels to be more big (than it should).

[Sander93]

the Balti feels a bit "heavy", but then again it's a heavy cruiser.

 

In USN designations the cruiser type was defined only by the size of the guns it carried. The Baltimore was a heavy cruiser because it mounted 203mm guns, not because the ship was heavy or heavily armored or something. 

[Stugga]

 

In USN designations the cruiser type was defined only by the size of the guns it carried. The Baltimore was a heavy cruiser because it mounted 203mm guns, not because the ship was heavy or heavily armored or something. 

 

Well then, it feels more heavy, without a reason(?)...lol

[RaakaKarju]

Is it only me that think they should get a faster reload and a bit more agilty, too make them more competitive?

 

yes maybe litle of baltimore if its shoot 5-6/min that is enough otherwise its good ship can chalenge almost every ship 1v1 

If you have litle support can chalenge even tier 10 bb's at close range battle ihan try to get something 7km range and behind yamato and move closer so ihan had all secundarys shooting but yamato not then  you have an edge, not allways succeed.

[Kollektiv]

Guys..it is simple...Jap DD are outclassed by US DD...Jap Cruisers outclass the US Cruisers ( ex: Pepsicola vs MyokoRD stats) only good thing about US Cruisers is the aa (medium - high tire)

I have both Pepsi and Myoko (full upgraded). Myoko just feel Way better that the Pepsi and looking at the tech tree I don't see the US cruisers being any better than the Japs.

 

Compare the Stats of the Des Moines and the Zao then try to argue again that Jap Cruisers outclass the US Cruiser.

I agree the Mogami is a really really beauty bad [edited]ship and way stronger the the counterpart on the US side but it will change at Tier X.

 

[RaakaKarju]

Guys..it is simple...Jap DD are outclassed by US DD...Jap Cruisers outclass the US Cruisers ( ex: Pepsicola vs MyokoRD stats) only good thing about US Cruisers is the aa (medium - high tire)

I have both Pepsi and Myoko (full upgraded). Myoko just feel Way better that the Pepsi and looking at the tech tree I don't see the US cruisers being any better than the Japs.

 

Jap DD 1v1 whith US DD its goes to US becouse guns japs doesnt have those compare to us DD's.

[Kollektiv]

 

Jap DD 1v1 whith US DD its goes to US becouse guns japs doesnt have those compare to us DD's.

 

I agree its just a different playstyle Ijns are good at hunting bigger ships and US are hunting DDs atm.

[Sille]

 

yes maybe litle of baltimore if its shoot 5-6/min that is enough otherwise its good ship can chalenge almost every ship 1v1 

If you have litle support can chalenge even tier 10 bb's at close range battle ihan try to get something 7km range and behind yamato and move closer so ihan had all secundarys shooting but yamato not then  you have an edge, not allways succeed.

 

In my exp a T10 bb usually kills my Ca whit 1-2 salvos...

The problem is generally a cruiser is anti Cv but there is max 1 cv per game generally and alot of BB that counter cruisers.

[Sander93]

 

Well then, it feels more heavy, without a reason(?)...lol

 

It does have more armor and weight (over 1,5 times as much displacement) than the New Orleans while having only slightly more engine power so it really is less manoeuvrable. Just wanted to elaborate the classification of US cruisers. 

[Stugga]

 

It does have more armor and weight (over 1,5 times as much displacement) than the New Orleans while having only slightly more engine power so it really is less manoeuvrable. Just wanted to elaborate the classification of US cruisers. 

 

Ah yeah you're right, it has more armor.

[Deamon93]

 

Ah yeah you're right, it has more armor.

 

Plus she has a heavier secondary armament(New Orleans has 8x5"/25 while Baltimore has 12x5"/38). That is a sizeable increase in weight as well, although not comparable to the weight increase due to the improved protection.

[Sille]

 

Plus she has a heavier secondary armament(New Orleans has 8x5"/25 while Baltimore has 12x5"/38). That is a sizeable increase in weight as well, although not comparable to the weight increase due to the improved protection.

 

The secondary is pretty useless on a cruiser though since they are only usefull against destroyers and if they get that close yo tou you are torp meat anyway(i dont know but do they fire AA?)

Still think NO really needs something more had 15 plaes flying over me yesterday shoot 2 down whit the ability on.

Cant really say i notice the armor.

The main guns just aint good enough.

[Deamon93]

 

The secondary is pretty useless on a cruiser though since they are only usefull against destroyers and if they get that close yo tou you are torp meat anyway(i dont know but do they fire AA?)

 

I was considering the weight increase alone. Well the secondary armament helps you in close range, it adds some DPM which you won't have otherwise but yeah in most cases isn't that critical. As far as AA is concerned it should be a good boost

[Sander93]

 As far as AA is concerned it should be a good boost

 

Average damage for DP secondaries goes from 16 (NO) to 24 (Balti), so not really lol. Still completely crap like every DP gun. 

[RaakaKarju]

 

The secondary is pretty useless on a cruiser though since they are only usefull against destroyers and if they get that close yo tou you are torp meat anyway(i dont know but do they fire AA?)

Still think NO really needs something more had 15 plaes flying over me yesterday shoot 2 down whit the ability on.

Cant really say i notice the armor.

The main guns just aint good enough.

 

For me those AA are great normaly at least 1 squadron shot down  (like yesterday they bring 3 squadrons of torbedobombers ani 2 squadrons dive bombers i shot down 14 planes and took 1 torbedo hit)  and secondarys put fire allmost every time so make dmg by fire. Normally no planes  near me.

[Sille]

 

For me those AA are great normaly at least 1 squadron shot down  (like yesterday they bring 3 squadrons of torbedobombers ani 2 squadrons dive bombers i shot down 14 planes and took 1 torbedo hit)  and secondarys put fire allmost every time so make dmg by fire. Normally no planes  near me.

 

Never noticed my AA to be that good.

[Zaods]

Guys..it is simple...Jap DD are outclassed by US DD...Jap Cruisers outclass the US Cruisers ( ex: Pepsicola vs MyokoRD stats) only good thing about US Cruisers is the aa (medium - high tire)

I have both Pepsi and Myoko (full upgraded). Myoko just feel Way better that the Pepsi and looking at the tech tree I don't see the US cruisers being any better than the Japs.

jap cruisers do not outclass US cruisers only myoko outclasses the pensacola and that's because pensacola is too weak for her tier ... try to look into the other cruisers US cruisers stomp jap cruisers in all tiers but t7

[RaakaKarju]

 

Never noticed my AA to be that good.

 

What modules do you have and what skills, best match i have shoot down 41 planes whith baltimore.

[Deamon93]

 

Average damage for DP secondaries goes from 16 (NO) to 24 (Balti), so not really lol. Still completely crap like every DP gun. 

 

Mainly due to every gun deals 2 damage per second which is odd.