New player here. I have some questions.

[Curesto]

Hi, new player here. I've started to playing this game about 20 days ago, because i've interesed about WW2 ships. I really like playing with battleships. I have about 41000 coals. My plan is buy the Oktyabrskaya Revolyutsiya. I also want to buy Nelson but, i will need too much FXPs for Nelson.

 

Anshan have +%100 camo, that's main reason i've thinking about the buying Anshan. But, i don't have any experience with destroyers. I always get destroyed beginning of the match while playing with destroyers.

 

I'm afraid to not like Anshan's playstyle. As i said, i don't like playing with destroyers. But, it has FXP camo and i want to get Nelson. I like playing with battleships. I was also have Mutsuki, but i've sold it because i can't play with it.

All battleships i have:

 

Premiums:

T6) Warspite

T5) Texas (Rental)

 

Tech Tree:

T7) Gneisenau

T6) Bayern

T6) Fuso

 

Cruisers:

T2) Diana Lima

T5) Königsberg

T3) Charleston

 

Destroyers:

T3) Campbeltown

 

What should i do? Should i buy Anshan or Oktyabrskaya Revolyutsiya?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Logan_MountStuart]

Neither at the moment it is only 20 days and you have plenty time.

Play across all types and tiers, as you seem to be doing, even if you grow to dislike playing DDs for example you should learn exactly what their weaknesses are and be able to better damage them when you face them in game, this goes for all types.

Play up through the tiers for now as the character of some tech trees does not become apparent and consistent until Tier 5, 6 or 7.

But mainly, because you should play the tech tree ships before spending money on ships that you may not like or, indeed, grow to hate and that is money wasted.  Read the Wiki about various ships and be aware not all Premium ships are better than their tech tree counterparts, some are much worse.

Premium time is probably a more sensible way to spend money on the game and be patient, too many players recently have raced up buying premiums and not learned the game.  

 

You might be a natural and really good from the start but generally it is an easy game to learn but very complex to master and be continually successful.

Good luck though, asking questions is the smartest thing anyone can do in this game, and there will be many, many more in time, so all the best and always enjoy yourself!!!

[doerhoff_damian]

Considering that you mostly play COOP I think it does not matter. 

Since you don´t like Destroyers you will probably also not like Anshan. She is however a good Destroyer if you can use her.

Maybe you can learn more from playing several Random Battles.

If you are ecperienced in Random you might be able to determent for yourself if you like that Ship.

[ForlornSailor]

6 minutes ago, doerhoff_damian said:

Considering that you mostly play COOP I think it does not matter. 

pretty much this. @Curesto You dont really "need" either of them for coop anyway. So I would advise to save the coal, until you can make a choice for a ship, which you know will fit your playstyle.

Anshan in particular is nothing special these days anymore, so you might be dissapointed at some point down the road because you spend your coal on that.

 

6 minutes ago, doerhoff_damian said:

Maybe you can learn more from playing several Random Battles.

Again speaking to OP: be adivsed, that coop differes a LOT from random battles. You can get away (and absolutly should) play super aggressive in coop. in random - this will get you killed. Especially jumping into a mid tier DD with no experiance in randoms is a very, very bad idea. Just saying, it might not be what you are planing to do, but just in case.

 

Edit says: as @Logan_MountStuart pointed out, getting some premium time might be a better investment. The XP bonus on a premium ship doesnt really get you anywhere. You´d need to invest money to turn them into free XP and the little extra free XP you earn through the perma camo is negliable - epsecially when we talk about farming for Nelson. Get a clan, they have bonuses for XP/free XP/credits through their ports, this will help you every game and doesnt cost a dime.

[Curesto]

4 dakika önce, ForlornSailor dedi:

pretty much this. @Curesto You dont really "need" either of them for coop anyway. So I would advise to save the coal, until you can make a choice for a ship, which you know will fit your playstyle.

Anshan in particular is nothing special these days anymore, so you might be dissapointed at some point down the road because you spend your coal on that.

 

Again speaking to OP: be adivsed, that coop differes a LOT from random battles. You can get away (and absolutly should) play super aggressive in coop. in random - this will get you killed. Especially jumping into a mid tier DD with no experiance in randoms is a very, very bad idea. Just saying, it might not be what you are planing to do, but just in case.

I don't know the difference between Co-op and Random Battle. 

 

I like playing with battleships. Well-armored, high range, so i can fight from distance and being durable.

 

Also, i want to learn play with destroyers. Which line would be best to learn destroyers?

 

Thanks. 

[Verblonde]

34 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I'm afraid to not like Anshan's playstyle. As i said, i don't like playing with destroyers. But, it has FXP camo and i want to get Nelson.

First of all, don't worry about getting Nelson immediately - she's good, but does require some technique (mainly due to the exposed citadel). Take your time.

 

Anshan, with her free xp cammo, probably won't generate free xp significantly faster than a ship you know how to play well (have a look at the wiki page regarding the economy: https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Economy#Experience) - the key driver of earnings is damage, and you won't do as much as you'd like in any ship you aren't able to play well.

 

If you're looking to maximise your free xp earning, you'll need to play in Randoms - the rewards are much greater there - but you'll need to learn how to play random battles at lower tiers before jumping into anything in the +2 MM bracket, if you want to avoid getting slaughtered most of the time.

[ForlornSailor]

2 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I don't know the difference between Co-op and Random Battle. 

 

Co-op is playing against bots (so against computer), while Random battle is two teams of human players facing each other. Besides that, they are identical (maps, gamemode, objectives) only that Random is 12 against 12 and coop gives you lower XP (unless you dont do good in randoms, then coop can actually be better). You can switch between the modes top centre of your port screen:

 

 

 

[Verblonde]

2 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I like playing with battleships. Well-armored, high range, so i can fight from distance and being durable.

 

Also, i want to learn play with destroyers. Which line would be best to learn destroyers?

First, be aware that playing BBs from extreme range is mostly a bad idea: you won't get enough hits, and you generally aren't tanking damage for your team-mates. Better BB players will be able to advise more thoroughly, but I gather that 'surfing' your approximate surface detection distance is a good starter for ten.

 

Best lines for learning DDs are probably IJN and US; that'll teach you about correct torp use and concealment (IJN), and how to make use of guns and smoke (US). After those two, maybe have a look at the KM and RN.

 

I would also strongly suggest joining a clan (ideally one with folk happy to teach): besides receiving pointers on what you're doing right/wrong, it'll provide a source of people to division with, as well as some economic bonuses (if their clan base is developed).

[Curesto]

1 dakika önce, ForlornSailor dedi:

 

Co-op is playing against bots (so against computer), while Random battle is two teams of human players facing each other. Besides that, they are identical (maps, gamemode, objectives) only that Random is 12 against 12 and coop gives you lower XP (unless you dont do good in randoms, then coop can actually be better). You can switch between the modes top centre of your port screen:

 

 

 

Thanks for explanation. I only played Random Battle for once with Warspite. I've noticed that the real players doesn't rush and they're hiding. I've sunk 1 battleship in this battle if i'm not wrong.

 

I enjoy playing on Co-op, because i don't think i have enough skills to play on Random mode.

[Verblonde]

11 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I enjoy playing on Co-op, because i don't think i have enough skills to play on Random mode.

Coop can be worth playing for a number of reasons:

• It can be fun - you can just charge the enemy without much regard for due care and attention, which can also be quite relaxing.
• If you want to save your free xp, it can be an easy environment to research crucial modules for stock ships (playing stock against real people can be very painful).
• It's a good place to make use of ships that - for whatever reason - are unwise choices for PvP, but you still want to make use of (for example, most of my BBs live in Coop, as I'm not very good with most of them against real people).
• It can be the most efficient place to do a lot of missions as you don't have to play as carefully e.g. a lot of real people are adept at dealing with smoke spammers, whilst the bots are rather less so - easy 'main battery hits' and/or 'cause fires' missions.

The main down-sides of Coop, IMO:

• Too easy - it can get dull after a while.
• Lousy rewards, compared to PvP.
• Much of the technique you'll develop in Coop is of limited use against real people; to get the most from the game, and be at least okay at it really does require playing against real people.

That said, there are quite a few exclusively Coop players, and if PvE is enough for you, all power to you - enjoy!

[SeaWolf7]

34 minutes ago, Curesto said:

. I've noticed that the real players doesn't rush and they're hiding.

 

Yes to not Rushing in, but hiding doesn't help anyone, its a team game and everyone has a roll to play. Yes BB's have the longest range guns but they also have the biggest armour and a lot of them have heal. You can do wonders for your team if you learn to angle that amour towards the person firing at you (you will take less damage as the rounds bounce rather than penetrate) whilst taking them out with those guns. sitting 20k away doesn't do jack for you or your team.

 

34 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I enjoy playing on Co-op, because i don't think i have enough skills to play on Random mode.

That's totally fair enough. May i suggest say for every 3- 4 battles you do in coop do 1 in Random, that way you can get a feel for the difference without getting to disheartened? Increase the amount of random games when you feel more confident.

[Molly_Delaney]

Big hint for getting good with DDs;

enlarge your mini-map to max size and make sure your air & sea detection ranges are being shown,

practice keeping red team ships outside your detection circle; you can see them but they can't see you.

[Curesto]

16 dakika önce, SeaWolf7 dedi:

Yes to not Rushing in, but hiding doesn't help anyone, its a team game and everyone has a roll to play. Yes BB's have the longest range guns but they also have the biggest armour and a lot of them have heal. You can do wonders for your team if you learn to angle that amour towards the person firing at you (you will take less damage as the rounds bounce rather than penetrate) whilst taking them out with those guns. sitting 20k away doesn't do jack for you or your team.

 

That's totally fair enough. May i suggest say for every 3- 4 battles you do in coop do 1 in Random, that way you can get a feel for the difference without getting to disheartened? Increase the amount of random games when you feel more confident.

I have some weird feeling or phobia to play againts to real players. That's why i play against to bots with real players on my team. I always play against to bots. Because of that.

[Verblonde]

2 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I have some weird feeling or phobia to play againts to real players. That's why i play against to bots with real players on my team. I always play against to bots. Because of that.

Play the game in whichever way works for you (provided it isn't harming anyone else); just be mindful that there are downsides to being exclusively PvE - it's up to you whether the upsides for you outweigh those downsides.

 

Incidentally, have you unlocked all the game's features yet? The reason I ask is that Randoms in the early stages of one's playing career are heavily populated by bots (I have a recent NA account and it's not uncommon for there to be only one or two real people per side in Randoms) - it's worth taking advantage of that for as long as possible, as you're (I think) getting PvP rewards in an almost PvE environment.

[Aethervoxx]

4 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I have some weird feeling or phobia to play againts to real players. That's why i play against to bots with real players on my team. I always play against to bots. Because of that.

Except, Curesto, even in co-ops you must be seeing real players on the other team  by now. After 465 battles you aren't in battles with just Bots anymore. Check the team lists to see how many real players & how many Bots there are.

[SeaWolf7]

21 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I have some weird feeling or phobia to play againts to real players. That's why i play against to bots with real players on my team. I always play against to bots. Because of that.

Its normal to be nervous of something you have never done before. But We cant really grow in skill or as people if we are constantly held back by the challenges we face whether it be a computer game or outside in life itself.

 

But how you choose to play this game is totally up to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Curesto]

10 dakika önce, Aethervoxx dedi:

Except, Curesto, even in co-ops you must be seeing real players on the other team  by now. After 465 battles you aren't in battles with just Bots anymore. Check the team lists to see how many real players & how many Bots there are.

I've always checked that out. Enemy team is full of bots and always has been. Sometimes lack of the players, game places some bots on my team.

[SV_Kompresor]

16 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

Except, Curesto, even in co-ops you must be seeing real players on the other team  by now. After 465 battles you aren't in battles with just Bots anymore. Check the team lists to see how many real players & how many Bots there are.

um....It's coop. Why would you meet other players on the enemy team in coop? That would kind of defeat the point.

[Aethervoxx]

22 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I've always checked that out. Enemy team is full of bots and always has been. Sometimes lack of the players, game places some bots on my team.

I was incorrect.

18 minutes ago, domen3 said:

um....It's coop. Why would you meet other players on the enemy team in coop? That would kind of defeat the point.

I was incorrect.

Pardon me, I don't play 'kindergarten' mode aka co-op. I was referring to low tier randoms where one sees a mix of Bot & Real players.

Perhaps, Curesto, you may be ready to take the low tier random battle plunge? If so, always kill the Bots first &, if you can, a Real player even before a Bot.

Whichever side with the Real players ends up with more after all the Bots are gone almost always wins (tho there can also be some exceptions to this).

Be aware that there can be Real player Seal Clubbers in low tier random play - guys with 19 pt Cpts on a low tier ship (even 10+  pt Cpts in low tier play are 'clubbers')

[Curesto]

Hi, i've started to playing the game 20 days ago. I really don't know what to do or missing something. So i want to ask it there. I think i'm doing something wrong.

I'm only playing on Co-op  battle mode. As you can see, i don't have any "real" destroyers. I've been thinking about the get Anshan with coals(I have 41K coals by the way) But, it could be a problem for inexperienced player like me.

 

I was have Mutsuki on destroyers, but i've sold it because of i can't play with it. I always get sunken beginning of the match while playing with the destroyers. I don't have any idea how to use smoke and how to survive as long as i can with destroyers.

 

I mostly play with Warspite, Königsberg and Gneisenau (which i've unlocked about 2 days ago). I love playing with them.

 

But, i want to new ships to get more fun while playing the game. I've been thinking about the get Kirov or Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya(i need at least 12000 coals to get Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya).

 

Also, i don't know what's the Campaigns.

 

I have these ships:

 

 

 

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Honestly, if you intend to stick to coop (which I wouldn't advise, but personal opinions are just personal opinions) it doesn't matter what you do. Do what you like and that's it.... 

 

 

What I would do is 

 

1. Give the other modes a chance, randoms and operations are fun. Esp. if you join a clan and play in divisions. 

2. Like I said join a clan, unless you are a information/data glutton, who spends hours browsing YT, his forum, the wiki and external pages like wowsft, clans are your best chance to learn more about how the game works. 

3. Don't rush too much to get to higher Tiers, game doesn't gets easier that way 

4. Pick 1-2 lines per class and grind them to t6-7 to get an understanding how the classes interact with each others.

5. Don't pick the odd ones, that don't emphasise the classes generic playstyle. 

 

 

Edit : will answer more questions later, right now I'm commuting and writing long walls of text on a phone sucks hard. 

[ForlornSailor]

28 minutes ago, Curesto said:

Also, i don't know what's the Campaigns.

 

Campaigns are long chains of seperate tasks, which give you rewads for individual stages and each task and an additional bigger reward for completing the entire campaign. I advise to always have as many as possible taks active (thats 2 or 3 with premium). Check the requirements - they are bound to tiers, nations or ships, and to gamemodes aswell. Especially for a new account its a good way to get some signals, camos and other stuff.

[Verblonde]

@Curesto - Some suggestions for 'what next?':

• Join a clan, preferably one that includes people happy to coach you (this will speed up your learning); ideally, you want to be using voice comms for faster feedback (most clans seem to use TS or Discord, but in-game voice comms can be okay). Look for a clan where people use whatever your first language is, and do so fluently, again for reasons of maximising communication efficiency.
• Play all the classes (BBs, cruisers, DDs and CVs) to at least T4; besides making the game more varied - always a good thing - it will give you a far better handle on what each class can/can't do, and what they're trying to do. It's a reasonable bet, for example, that the bulk of the BBs that you see straightlining in the game have never played any kind of torp boat; as a DD driver, you'll be able to better evade planes if you've previously played them yourself, and so on.
• Don't confine yourself to Coop only; play some randoms (in a division if you want some moral support), but be mindful that low tier randoms are a very different thing to higher tiers - they're generally more chaotic, more tending towards brawling, and an even higher proportion of players won't have the first idea what they're doing. Randoms generate much higher rewards, in general, but can be harder to do well with (although a lot of BBs can be more effective in randoms as those games often last longer, giving more opportunities to do damage).
• Focus on getting some good captains for your favourite ships; short to medium term, you need at least 10 points (assuming a sensible build) for anything in the +2 MM bracket and more points are better the higher you go. Your longer term aim - which will take some time - is to get your first 19 pointer; 19 point captains are valuable as they generate elite xp, which can be used to boost any captain, provided you have enough of it.
• Regarding captains, the previous point relates to how things are now; there is a rework of captain skills in the pipeline. So far, it's still WiP, but it's likely that similar general principles will apply; however, many of the skills are changing/moving/becoming unavailable for certain classes. Also, a 'top' captain looks like being 21 points, rather than 19. Keep an eye out for the free respec that will accompany the launch of the new captain system - that may well be very useful to fix any mistakes you make now vis-a-vis captain builds.
• Work on understanding how captain builds work, and what your current captains should look like, and be developing towards; there is rarely one 'right' answer, but variations in opinion - you'll need to decide on what works for you, but do expect changes when the rework goes live.
• Returning to ships, don't rush up the tiers if you're playing against real people; stay at a given tier until you're comfortable with the ship in question, and aren't losing too frequently. The point of the game isn't to get to T10 as fast as possible, but to progress up the tiers at a rate that is complimentary to your rate of learning/skill acquisition/captain development.
• Read up on how everything works in the wiki: https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/World_of_Warships
• Regarding the wiki, there is a huge amount of information in there; I suggest focusing on what you need to know e.g. who cares about radar until you hit T5, as that's the lowest tier that will encounter it (and T7 is the lowest tier that gets to use it).
• Keep asking questions on here - there are plenty of people happy to help newcomers. Be mindful of whose advice you follow, and how closely e.g. my experience is heavily biased towards DDs (against real people); I'm not that good (48% WR overall), but have played a very wide range of ships, just many of them not very often; so, my advice on 'how to be a unicum' is going to be completely useless (which is why I won't offer it), but I'm probably not a bad source on more general pointers. Apply similar logic to everyone else (and be suspicious of anyone with hidden stats in the first instance - some are worth listening to, but some are rather less so).

[Puffin_]

If you want to buy one ship. Buy T8 Massachusetts

If you want to buy BB: Buy Massachusetts

You want to buy your first DD. Get T6 German DD T61

https://wows-numbers.com/ship/3751753712,Massachusetts/

[Captain_Singleton]

New player. What should i do next?

 

stop making threads every couple of hours asking the same thing...