Is Ashan destroyer worth to buy?

[Curesto]

Hi, new player here. I don't have any "high tier" destroyers.Been thinking about the buy Ashan from Armory. Normally i've planned to buy Aigle but i don't have enough colas to buy it.

 

Is Ashan worth to buy?

[lafeel]

If you liked her sister the Gnevny then chances are you will like the Anshan, they are very similar.

[Curesto]

Şimdi, lafeel dedi:

If you liked her sister the Gremy then chances are you will like the Anshan, they are very similar.

Thanks. If Aigle is better, i would wait the obtain enough coals.

[lafeel]

1 minute ago, Curesto said:

Thanks. If Aigle is better, i would wait the obtain enough coals.

Not sure Aigle is as such that much better, but they are certainly both good ships

[Verblonde]

2 minutes ago, Curesto said:

Is Ashan worth to buy?

Short answer: yes (assuming you meant Anshan), but read the longer answer below.

 

Longer answer:

 

Don't rush to buy premium ships with money; they won't magically make you a better player, and very few (most of them no longer available) will be significantly more powerful than typical regular silver ships at the same tier. Also, bear in mind that - as a new player (you only have 1 battle in randoms at time of writing) - you probably don't have a good enough captain for her yet - when you get into T5 and above, you really want at least a 10 pointer.

 

When thinking about premiums to buy, it's generally a good idea to have some/all of the following on your radar:

• Make sure you have premium time first; in general, the best return on spend is premium time as it works on all your ships, and for every battle.
• Pick something that you are going to enjoy playing multiple times: premiums, especially your first ones, are only good value if you play many battles in them.
• Pick something that is of a suitable tier, if you want to play PvP - generally, this means roughly whatever tier you're comfortable in with regular silver ships (play whatever you like in Coop).
• Pick something that doesn't require a non-standard captain, and can accept a suitable captain from one of your regular ships (a key plus point of premiums is the captain training aspect).
• Pick freebies when possible i.e. things you get for missions, or for resources like coal.

 

 

[Verblonde]

8 minutes ago, Curesto said:

If Aigle is better, i would wait the obtain enough coals.

My feeling is that they're fairly similar in terms of quality, although Aigle might have a bit of an edge.

 

The crucial thing though is for which do you have a good enough captain available; you'll get your posterior handed to you against real people without at least a ten point captain (due to not having CE mainly).

[Curesto]

5 dakika önce, Verblonde dedi:

Short answer: yes (assuming you meant Anshan), but read the longer answer below.

 

Longer answer:

 

Don't rush to buy premium ships with money; they won't magically make you a better player, and very few (most of them no longer available) will be significantly more powerful than typical regular silver ships at the same tier. Also, bear in mind that - as a new player (you only have 1 battle in randoms at time of writing) - you probably don't have a good enough captain for her yet - when you get into T5 and above, you really want at least a 10 pointer.

 

When thinking about premiums to buy, it's generally a good idea to have some/all of the following on your radar:

• Make sure you have premium time first; in general, the best return on spend is premium time as it works on all your ships, and for every battle.
• Pick something that you are going to enjoy playing multiple times: premiums, especially your first ones, are only good value if you play many battles in them.
• Pick something that is of a suitable tier, if you want to play PvP - generally, this means roughly whatever tier you're comfortable in with regular silver ships (play whatever you like in Coop).
• Pick something that doesn't require a non-standard captain, and can accept a suitable captain from one of your regular ships (a key plus point of premiums is the captain training aspect).
• Pick freebies when possible i.e. things you get for missions, or for resources like coal.

 

 

I mostly enjoy playing with Batteships. I have T7 Gneisenau on KM and T6 Fuso on IJN. My main plan was get the Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya, but i don't have enough coals to get her.

[_HomTanks_]

18 minutes ago, Curesto said:

Thanks. If Aigle is better, i would wait the obtain enough coals.

Think of Aigle as a mini-Khaba but maybe you don't have Khaba so, Aigle is a long range gun boat dd with bigger caliber and more guns than Anshan. You can also play Anshan long distance but not as long as Aigle and Anshan has a slower turret reverse. On the other hand, Anshan has lower concealment than Aigle, hence i'd play it in closer combats . Both have 8km torps. Depends on how you want play a dd, long distance running, kiting or closer distance.

[Verblonde]

1 minute ago, Curesto said:

I mostly enjoy playing with Batteships. I have T7 Gneisenau on KM and T6 Fuso on IJN. My main plan was get the Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya, but i don't have enough coals the get her.

In which case, I would perhaps avoid premium DDs until you've got the hang of the class with silver ships, and have suitable captains for them.

 

If you're playing the KM and IJN BBs, perhaps have a look at Scharnhorst (similar to Gneis, with more, but smaller, main guns; *very* useful for the Narai Op, which isn't a bad way to earn silver and xp), or maybe Mutsu (good for T6 Ops) or Ashitaka (Narai). That assumes you focus on PvE in the short-term. PEF (KM) isn't bad for T6 Ops as well, but can be harder to make work against real people.

 

BTW off at a slight tangent: don't rush up the tiers (you're at T7 already), and try and play all the classes - at least a bit - you'll do better in whatever your most favoured class is, if you have a thorough understanding of what potential threats and targets are all trying to do...

 

 

[HaachamaShipping]

Aigle isn't better than Anshan. Aigle is good, but it's different. Aigle is great dpm, great hp pool, but it also isn't the most maneuverable without its speed boost and not very stealthy. If you can play around the very poor concealment, Aigle can be great. Anshan meanwhile is a very solid allround DD. It isn't as extreme as the Aigle, but it also does not have the extreme downsides. If you build it with CE, it has around 6 km conceal, which is prety solid and the torpedos with 8 km range are very standard. Compared to Gnevny, Anshan is straight up a better ship. Anshan basically combines Gnevny with a functional torpedo armament. Anshan can play the range game like the Gnevny, but it doesn't have to. I'd rate both options as solid DDs among the T6s.

[PeteEarthling]

Anshan has a permacamo with +100% FXP bonus in addition to the normal T6 permacamo boni.

[PeteEarthling]

32 minutes ago, Curesto said:

i don't have enough colas to buy it

Oh, you are building the second Pepsi fleet? 😁

[Verblonde]

FWIW with full concealment build:

• Anshan has 6.3 km surface detection distance.
• Aigle has 6.8 km surface detection distance.

(For context, T-61 has 6.1 km).

 

 

[_HomTanks_]

2 minutes ago, PeteEarthling said:

Anshan has a permacamo with +100% FXP bonus in addition to the normal T6 permacamo boni.

It's a very good camo. Also Black camo with 150% is superb.

[Verblonde]

2 minutes ago, PeteEarthling said:

Anshan has a permacamo with +100% FXP bonus in addition to the normal T6 permacamo boni.

I'd completely forgotten about this (you get the same bonus with the LNY cammo too)...

[Curesto]

55 dakika önce, PeteEarthling dedi:

Anshan has a permacamo with +100% FXP bonus in addition to the normal T6 permacamo boni.

I need  FXP too. Should i buy it?

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, Curesto said:

Hi, new player here. I don't have any "high tier" destroyers.Been thinking about the buy Ashan from Armory. Normally i've planned to buy Aigle but i don't have enough colas to buy it.

 

Is Ashan worth to buy?

Weeeell kinda yes, she is a nice one if you like the gunboat for BBQ-ing and she can even drop some decent-ish fish (for her tier) in a pinch if you get low with HP

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Anshan is a good t6 premium DD and I like to play her. Maybe even more than t-61, who is IMHO the stronger one. 

 

However she is special and I wouldn't recommend buying her unless you a) are either familiar with Russian gunboat playstyle or have reached fushun in the PA tree and liked her and b) have the ECXP to beef up her commander to at 14+ points. 

 

She doesn't work well as a training ship for PA dds either. In that regard LY is a superior choice, but I wouldn't recommend the PA DD line anyway nowadays. 

 

 

 

 

[doerhoff_damian]

Anshan is a Pan-Asian Gnevny with normal short-range Torps. No Deep-water Torps.

Aigle is a french Destroyer with Smoke.

Aigle has more fast-firing Guns (5 vs 4) and also Torps with longer ranges but since she is a french destroyer you should expect to be spottet earlier than in other DDs like Anshan for Example.

[K82J]

Anshan has russian guns, flat arcs with high shell velocity. Aigle gun ballistics are much closer to the US 127 mm " mortars " , they have even slower initial shell velocity. I personally would get the Anshan first, especially if you need FXP.

[PeteEarthling]

54 minutes ago, Curesto said:

I need  FXP too. Should i buy it?

I have bought it several times and did not regret it. And T6 is a nice tier to play.

[Takethatyoubeast]

2 hours ago, lafeel said:

Not sure Aigle is as such that much better, but they are certainly both good ships

Agile is more flexible but the Anshan has the 100% free so camo with a terrible reload in its guns

 

Used wisely it is a good ship 

[lafeel]

1 minute ago, Takethatyoubeast said:

Agile is more flexible but the Anshan has the 100% free so camo with a terrible reload in its guns

 

Used wisely it is a good ship 

Also, the considerably higher shell speed of the Anshan helps considerably.

[Takethatyoubeast]

3 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Also, the considerably higher shell speed of the Anshan helps considerably.

I like the Anshan and the Huanghe cruiser - underrated 

[FlyingBender]

30 seconds turn turrets in Anshan is a real pain