LouisJoker Players 6 posts 2,647 battles Report post #1 Posted November 5, 2020 Hi, just wondering if anyone knows whether the British ship Cheshire will ever be available to purchase again in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #2 Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, LouisJoker said: Hi, just wondering if anyone knows whether the British ship Cheshire will ever be available to purchase again in the future. Last time she was unavailable for... 5? 6? months. So you might expect to return in next year. That or Christmas sales. Bigger question, why you would want her? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouisJoker Players 6 posts 2,647 battles Report post #3 Posted November 5, 2020 ive heard she's pretty bad but i just like the looks of her tbh im debating whether to buy the vanguard, hood or london instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #4 Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, LouisJoker said: ive heard she's pretty bad but i just like the looks of her tbh im debating whether to buy the vanguard, hood or london instead Deciding between ships you've selected is like asking "do I want to get shot in left or right foot" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouisJoker Players 6 posts 2,647 battles Report post #5 Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Panocek said: Deciding between ships you've selected is like asking "do I want to get shot in left or right foot" Yeah im just a british guy who wants british ships, is perth any better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #6 Posted November 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, LouisJoker said: ive heard she's pretty bad but i just like the looks of her tbh im debating whether to buy the vanguard, hood or london instead Vanguard and Hood are both great ships and very handsome to boot. I don't have Cheshire and London I haven't played much, so no comment there(though I do like Devonshire, grinding it now) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #7 Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, LouisJoker said: Yeah im just a british guy who wants british ships, is perth any better? Perth is okay and have some meme potential due to her creeping smoke, but you get very similar ship in shape of her sister, Leander, for free. for premium BBs of Tea flavor: -Warspite, still holds the line after all those years, only issues would be being overmatched by 380mm+ guns and she somewhat short ranged -Hood, had issues with AP shells back in the day but those, supposedly, got rectified. Still suffers for having "only" 381mm guns due to IFHE/cruiser armor changes. On bright side, her hull armor scheme makes her quite resistant to HE and 380mm+ guns -Duke of York, I've got her for free during 2017 Christmas events and that is fair price for this ship. She also got hit hard with Brit BB citadel changes -Nelson, alright BB with infamous Brit lolheal, 406mm guns aren't something to sneeze at either. Citadel is somewhat vulnerable though, should you get caught broadside -Vanguard, purpose of this ship is to make Monarch look good. And Monarch is embarrassment to start with -Thunderer, arguably the best/most broken Brit BB out there. You can't buy her directly, only for coal currency Cruisers: -Exeter, decent CA at tier 5, unique as she combines 203mm guns with heal -London is about as fascinating to play as watching paint dry. I suppose you can work with her, but I'm afraid silver Leander will be better ship... for free -Belfast, unavailable because WG deemed her overpowered, doesn't mean you can't spend metric jesuston of money on Christmas lootboxes lottery to try to get her -Cheshire, "going back to port in no time" simulator with questionable guns... just like her silver "sister", Albemarle Destroyers: -Gallant is completely forgettable ship, silver Icarus I'd dare to say is better pick due to access to Hydro, Brit fast reloading smoke and magic acceleration -Cossack, excellent DD if you focus on contesting caps, you can get very similar experience with silver Lightning... which raises the question why buying her unless you can get some hefty discount Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouisJoker Players 6 posts 2,647 battles Report post #8 Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Panocek said: Perth is okay and have some meme potential due to her creeping smoke, but you get very similar ship in shape of her sister, Leander, for free. for premium BBs of Tea flavor: -Warspite, still holds the line after all those years, only issues would be being overmatched by 380mm+ guns and she somewhat short ranged -Hood, had issues with AP shells back in the day but those, supposedly, got rectified. Still suffers for having "only" 381mm guns due to IFHE/cruiser armor changes. On bright side, her hull armor scheme makes her quite resistant to HE and 380mm+ guns -Duke of York, I've got her for free during 2017 Christmas events and that is fair price for this ship. She also got hit hard with Brit BB citadel changes -Nelson, alright BB with infamous Brit lolheal, 406mm guns aren't something to sneeze at either. Citadel is somewhat vulnerable though, should you get caught broadside -Vanguard, purpose of this ship is to make Monarch look good. And Monarch is embarrassment to start with -Thunderer, arguably the best/most broken Brit BB out there. You can't buy her directly, only for coal currency Cruisers: -Exeter, decent CA at tier 5, unique as she combines 203mm guns with heal -London is about as fascinating to play as watching paint dry. I suppose you can work with her, but I'm afraid silver Leander will be better ship... for free -Belfast, unavailable because WG deemed her overpowered, doesn't mean you can't spend metric jesuston of money on Christmas lootboxes lottery to try to get her -Cheshire, "going back to port in no time" simulator with questionable guns... just like her silver "sister", Albemarle Destroyers: -Gallant is completely forgettable ship, silver Icarus I'd dare to say is better pick due to access to Hydro, Brit fast reloading smoke and magic acceleration -Cossack, excellent DD if you focus on contesting caps, you can get very similar experience with silver Lightning... which raises the question why buying her unless you can get some hefty discount thanks for the info, guess wargaming dont like the royal navy all that much. ill go and drink some tea and think about the good old days of the empire 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9 Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, LouisJoker said: thanks for the info, guess wargaming dont like the royal navy all that much. ill go and drink some tea and think about the good old days of the empire More like by time WG got around to adding Brit stuff, they run out of ideas and had to manufacture something on the fly to not end up with functionally copy/paste ship. Then you have issue of WG purposefully making T7 and below artificially worse on "game mechanics" principle - BBs get overmatched by bigger guns, CLs have worse HE pen and uptier terribly, DDs lack concealment due to no access to Concealment upgrade. Basically, if you want "fun premium ship that is somewhat resistant to matchmaking whims" you need to spend big or not at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #10 Posted November 5, 2020 If you really want a challenge maybe you should use the Omaha and division with a Kremlin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SOD-] imoenbg1 Players 81 posts Report post #11 Posted November 5, 2020 Vanguard is an awesome ship, a bit underpowered but a thousand times better than Monarch. But Warspite is the ship to go!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #12 Posted November 5, 2020 Hood is worth the money, especially if you like fast battleships. The only thing you need to know is that the guns are the 15 inch BL MkIs from Queen Elizabeth, not Warspite (Warspite has better penetration overall). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #13 Posted November 5, 2020 4 hours ago, LouisJoker said: Hi, just wondering if anyone knows whether the British ship Cheshire will ever be available to purchase again in the future. Almost certainly - someone at WG will probably wake up blisteringly hungover and with a *serious* grudge against his fellow man, and put her back in the shop...! Wasn't she on sale a week or two ago though, for the discerning masochist? I wouldn't lose too much sleep about not having her though - she's made up, so you aren't missing anything historical (and there are several better options at T8, notably Atago and her various clones). If you are especially At One With The Tea, London is a lot better (tier-for-tier), is quite worthwhile for Ops, and has the merit of being real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #14 Posted November 5, 2020 Post-script: Looks like Belfast '43 is happening (see other thread); no idea if she's any good though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #15 Posted November 6, 2020 Monarch is actually a very decent BB but requires abit more thinking and effort in playing. Most players who play it don't play it to its full potential and thus think that its a bad BB when it is actually not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #16 Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, pra3y said: Monarch is actually a very decent BB but requires abit more thinking and effort in playing. Most players who play it don't play it to its full potential and thus think that its a bad BB when it is actually not. It is the only silver british BB I truly liked. That ship is strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #17 Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, domen3 said: It is the only silver british BB I truly liked. That ship is strong. I like it too. For me it has a pretty interesting playstyle compared to the rest of the British BBs, especially those before it. It was quite a refreshing change compared to just spamming HE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #18 Posted November 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, pra3y said: I like it too. For me it has a pretty interesting playstyle compared to the rest of the British BBs, especially those before it. It was quite a refreshing change compared to just spamming HE. I mean, I did only use HE on it, but it was just such a comfortable ship to play. It had more range than KGV which reduced the problem of it having bad armor as you didn't have to get suicidally close, it had very nice reload and a decent caliber. Like with roma, I don't understand why people dislike them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #19 Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, domen3 said: I mean, I did only use HE on it, but it was just such a comfortable ship to play. It had more range than KGV which reduced the problem of it having bad armor as you didn't have to get suicidally close, it had very nice reload and a decent caliber. Like with roma, I don't understand why people dislike them. Save for the HE part, and the Roma which i have never played before I agree with the rest. I actually feel that it is stronger AP wise plus it has a very good concealment. You use concealment to reposition or get away and AP at everything. The fire chance for HE on the Monarch feels anemic to me so I never really used it unless absolutely necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #20 Posted November 6, 2020 IDK I dont find the Cheshire THAT bad TBH, the mega pen on the HE shells she shares with Drake and Goliath does give some BB farming options and if you go about it smartly she can even tank a fair bit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #21 Posted November 6, 2020 12 hours ago, LouisJoker said: Hi, just wondering if anyone knows whether the British ship Cheshire will ever be available to purchase again in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #22 Posted November 6, 2020 As in 'Alice in Wonderland', when it begins to 'phase in' again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GEUS] Purnylla [GEUS] Players 1,105 posts 25,180 battles Report post #23 Posted November 6, 2020 16 hours ago, LouisJoker said: Yeah im just a british guy who wants british ships, Ark Royal seems to be a fun ship. I'll probably buy it once I get my 25% discount coupon :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #24 Posted November 6, 2020 TBH I have mixed feelings but I would still suggest The Mighty Hood for buy. Whenever I play her I feel like this ship is terrible I never hit anything however in the end I still somehow do Krakens and top performances and I am sitting there confused like what the heck happened here I don't even remember hitting things not even killing them. :D So Hood will give you a positive surprise and I think it is already worth. Or as we call it the HMS Great Erection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNBCD] The_White_Whale Players 283 posts 3,035 battles Report post #25 Posted November 6, 2020 18 hours ago, LouisJoker said: ive heard she's pretty bad but i just like the looks of her tbh im debating whether to buy the vanguard, hood or london instead Cheshire and Vanguard are equally garbage so avoid both, Hood is solid for those good at angling and has the benefit of being super sexy. London is good but extremely tier dependant, crazy OP when against T6s, 'oh god please make this suffering end' when bottom tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites