Wargaming, Your Game Is In Terrible State

[VeteranGamer84]

The game suffers from repetitiveness and even your Halloween event isn't that special especially with your weak rewards. Even your "Infernal Camo" isn't that good looking and not worth the grind for 300k tokens. Your game became really boring and I suggest you REWORK the WHOLE GAMEPLAY to put in some fresh air into your 5 year old game. You should even think of releasing a modern naval warfare game and think how to make new exciting gameplay other from that "Artillery Shooting"... It's getting older as time passes.

[ColonelPete]

15 minutes ago, ABED1984 said:

The game suffers from repetitiveness and even your Halloween event isn't that special especially with your weak rewards. Even your "Infernal Camo" isn't that good looking and not worth the grind for 300k tokens. Your game became really boring and I suggest you REWORK the WHOLE GAMEPLAY to put in some fresh air into your 5 year old game. You should even think of releasing a modern naval warfare game and think how to make new exciting gameplay other from that "Artillery Shooting"... It's getting older as time passes.

So you want Subs?

[VeteranGamer84]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

So you want Subs?

Subs are good addition but I'm talking the 5 year old gameplay. I hope WG improves/changes the current gameplay. I don't find the joy in this game anymore.

[lafeel]

1 minute ago, ABED1984 said:

Subs are good addition but I'm talking the 5 year old gameplay. I hope WG improves/changes the current gameplay. I don't find the joy in this game anymore.

And how precisely do you suggest they do that? After all just saying that they should do that is hardly a solution now is it?

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, ABED1984 said:

Subs are good addition but I'm talking the 5 year old gameplay. I hope WG improves/changes the current gameplay. I don't find the joy in this game anymore.

Subs will change the gameplay.

You should note that many do not want subs.

[GarrusBrutus]

No wonder after 40.000 battles.......... 

[VeteranGamer84]

12 minutes ago, lafeel said:

And how precisely do you suggest they do that?

 

Well, They have a big staff that can think about it. If I tried to think about it will take long time.

5 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

No wonder after 40.000 battles.......... 

40k battles should be an advantage for me. I speak from experience.

 

11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Subs will change the gameplay.

You should note that many do not want subs.

Let's hope.

[Spartan_Renegade]

Operations would save this game. There's a lot of potential in that mode if WG could just stop going for the quick buck. 

[Shaka_D]

Subs are a grand idea but not everyones cup of tea. Maybe better suited to their own mode perhaps to see where player reference lies, maybe parallel to randoms - dare we say 'sub-randoms'? We can't really decry them as horrible without seeing their full impact and how they can be developed. Why not anyways, we already have these hideously way-off-kilt-cater-for-the-weird-and-wonderful-amongst-us events like halloween, transformers, etc etc... Will subs be any worse than this?

 

Not sure where else the game can go other than forward or backward in history, or maybe even a proper long single player historical campaign? What is getting repetitive though is seeing non-reward things being offered as rewards in such abysmal quantities, e.g. small amounts of consumables hard fought for and wasted in seconds on one or two bad games, the same early release stuff over and over and WG's addiction to gambling exploitation. Just my thoughts anyways. And yes, I admit I also feel a thrill buying containers now and then but only when I know there could be a ship in it. Never any other time. Sigh!

[DFens_666]

Since you should roughly be looking at 6000-8000h of playing, maybe its time to move on?

No game will be fun forever.

[principat121]

41 minutes ago, ABED1984 said:

The game suffers from repetitiveness and even your Halloween event isn't that special especially with your weak rewards. Even your "Infernal Camo" isn't that good looking and not worth the grind for 300k tokens. Your game became really boring and I suggest you REWORK the WHOLE GAMEPLAY to put in some fresh air into your 5 year old game. You should even think of releasing a modern naval warfare game and think how to make new exciting gameplay other from that "Artillery Shooting"... It's getting older as time passes.

A player with over 40,000 (!) battles complains about repetitiveness?! Really? I mean, really? What do you expect? Of course you are bored to hell and back with that amount of matches played. 

 

And there is no reason to change anything to "refresh" anything, because your level of experience is way beyond the scope of this game where the majority of the players sitting around 1,000 battles played. Wargaming does not need to fulfill the needs of a bored 40k-matches-player, they want the attention (and money) from the newer players. 

[InfinityIncarnate]

Any game without a good amount varied gameplay, will at some point feel repetitive, especially those games that are based around playing a match.
I don't have anywhere near @ABED1984 amount of battles, and I do find it to be quite repetitive.

I think operations would be a good idea for them to work on improving and adding more, but instead they keep on adding new premium ships, and it's not so weird considering that it's a free game and they have a substantial amount of players to market to. But they don't listen too much to their playerbase, and when they do, they do something completely different, just take the reworked CV play, personally I don't play CV as much any more, in fact it's almost not at all as I don't really like the new system. I did even make a great CV rework suggestion, but it's no surprise the weren't listening to players as they wanted to make something that worked well for console players as well - only real reason they changed it.

I think if they did more missions like operations, but instead focused more on telling a story progressively and providing content through the missions (not the sort of missions they have now), and these missions were for lower tiers as well, not just T5 and above. So like you were playing through a campaign of missions, where you were continuing either with the same group of ships/players or with others at a later point.

Also, I think if they were to add more role-based play, drawing inspiration from MOBAs and MMOs, but keeping it true to naval warfare, and to some degree they already have some of this, but nowhere near good enough to have a resemblance MOBA/MMO-like gameplay. For instance, we've seen ships in operations that can "heal" other ships over time - in MOBAs and MMOs this would be known as a HoT, what most T8 ships and all all battleships can do with their Repair Party consumable - self-heal. As a team-based game, it's well suited for MOBA/MMO-like gameplay. A lot of things could be done for the game if gameplay inspiration was taken from such games implemented, I think could really do something for the game.

[BigDorris]

I am a newb and find it pretty boring already. Past Tier V everyone hangs back and let's the BBs duke it out.

 

[Zemeritt]

While I myself am closing on my 14k matches mark, I don't think it becomes boring, just more frustrating to play this game.

 

I'll give you an advice: Take a break. Play something else for 3-4 months.

[lafeel]

1 hour ago, ABED1984 said:

Well, They have a big staff that can think about it. If I tried to think about it will take long time.

1 hour ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Sorry but no, you're not getting away that easily. If you're going to demand they change something then you at the  very least have to point to some sort of solution (or at least something you think is a solution)

[FukushuNL]

I don't think the problem is the game. I think it's you who should move on to look for new experiences, OP. Not that I want you away, but I mean it in your best interests. Or at least take a hiatus from the game.

[PeteEarthling]

 

8 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

No wonder after 40.000 battles.......... 

WoWs40k 😁

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 7 Stunden, lafeel sagte:

Sorry but no, you're not getting away that easily. If you're going to demand they change something then you at the  very least have to point to some sort of solution (or at least something you think is a solution)

I don't share your point of view. 

Imagine you want to buy a new car, look at one and say you don't like it. Imagine the maker of the car would then pressure you to point out to them exactly what needs to be changed...

Customers have every right to state their point of view but they have no obligation to come up with fixes.

[BananaMo]

9 hours ago, ABED1984 said:

„ Your game became really boring...“

Or maybe just time to move on

[rimmer_the]

10 hours ago, ABED1984 said:

The game suffers from repetitiveness and even your Halloween event isn't that special especially with your weak rewards. Even your "Infernal Camo" isn't that good looking and not worth the grind for 300k tokens. Your game became really boring and I suggest you REWORK the WHOLE GAMEPLAY to put in some fresh air into your 5 year old game. You should even think of releasing a modern naval warfare game and think how to make new exciting gameplay other from that "Artillery Shooting"... It's getting older as time passes.

Why would WG ? Theyre milking this cow hard for 5 years and it still gives milk. Additionally, dont trust WG with gameplay rework. We got things like Epicenter and cv rework, Research Bureau. 

[ColonelPete]

39 minutes ago, Johnny_Moneto said:

I don't share your point of view. 

Imagine you want to buy a new car, look at one and say you don't like it. Imagine the maker of the car would then pressure you to point out to them exactly what needs to be changed...

Customers have every right to state their point of view but they have no obligation to come up with fixes.

No, he has no obligation. But without an explanation, there will be no change.

Product makers are well advised not to change stuff blindly. They should ask their customers first.

[bratisla_boy]

Il y a 3 heures, PeteEarthling a dit :

 

WoWs40k 😁

In the 40th thousand battle,

                                                there is only war. And potatoes. 

[Imsali]

11 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

No wonder after 40.000 battles.......... 

Came here to comment the same.

[Imsali]

10 hours ago, BigDorris said:

I am a newb and find it pretty boring already. Past Tier V everyone hangs back and let's the BBs duke it out.

 

At 200 battles you barely know the basics yet took the effort to register on the forum and comment this. GG

[_HomTanks_]

13 hours ago, ABED1984 said:

The game suffers from repetitiveness and even your Halloween event isn't that special especially with your weak rewards.

Right.

 

13 hours ago, ABED1984 said:

Even your "Infernal Camo" isn't that good looking and not worth the grind for 300k tokens. 

Agreed it is ugly but whether it is worth it or not is subjective to person. Veterans may not find these camos appealing as they may already have them in stacks from previous events but they may be appealing to new comers.

 

13 hours ago, ABED1984 said:

Your game became really boring and I suggest you REWORK the WHOLE GAMEPLAY to put in some fresh air into your 5 year old game.

Agreed it got boring and game needs some changes. The changes should not bring broken ideas that would change the game play in general 360 degrees. If we look at the current game state it is extremely on sided most of the time (landslide wins/losses), CVs are over dominant, BB camping play style has been encouraged with the release of sick poor armors & HP but long range sniper BBs and long range super/battle cruisers. This less fun environment doesn't need more sniping ships, more cv-hybrid cv ships or subs permanently embedded into the game. It needs different changes that will bring back the game play of first 2-3 years, less camping, less long distance spamming, etc. This is some of what i think would be better for the current state of game (there is ofc other issues like MM but won't get into it here).

 

For your sanity, you can start playing less by taking a break or small breaks. For instance, i started playing only a battle per day or every 2-3 days which helps me to keep my faith in humanity. I don't really care about the game that much anymore as its current state, CBs, the stubbornness of WG with cvs, lowered or revoked rewards in game modes, etc. just make me feel like an idiot if i spend more time in this game. Except, i play the Halloween mode a lot because there is no cv griefers there, it is more fun, don't care about the rewards (you shouldn't either as we veteran players have almost every ship, camo, flag, etc.) and it presents a good challenging war environment vs other real players although ships are not realistic but then, are the ships in randoms realistic? Hell no. 

 

Note: Forgot to write, this game did marvelous for a F2P concept. It made many of us whales for quite some time but speaking as even if I, for instance, weren't a whale, still this is a very nice game to play for free.  Nothing can take away that fact.