[GTPF] Communist_Loli Players 438 posts 8,076 battles Report post #1 Posted November 4, 2020 This post is just me ranting about a peculiar teammate I happen to have the honor of playing with. I started the game with the GK abandoning the left flank and sailing across the map to the other side. I pinged him for assistance but it went ignored and he stayed his course. I'm like ok... at least we got other friendlies from the center coming over to help out. He then proceeds to do a 180 and turn around after having wasted like 3 min sailing away initially. But even then, as a brawling BB, he was still too far away to be of any use. For the next 10 min of the game, he has refused to push up whatsoever. Spending all his time taking potshots at max range. Even when the game was basically over, and we were closing in for the kill, this was where he was..... After I sank to the Richtofen and started spectating. I found that this man still had 100% of his bloody HP this entire game..... But in hindsight, it shouldn't be surprising when he's spent the entire game hiding with our CV at the back. We ended the game with him obviously being at the very bottom of the scoreboard. Luckily most of my teammates were competent enough to pull a win. But man, why would you get on a German BB just to play him as a backline sniper? I did a little digging on his profile to see why. And boy was I not prepared to witness the things I was about to see... This man has literally Freexp'd through every tier (save for the 3 games on Kolberg) to get to tier 10 on the GK and Hindenburg. Supplied with all the games he's been playing on his tier 8 premiums... I'm fine with people throwing free XP to skip certain ships they don't enjoy but my god, I've never seen one like this before. 3 7 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #2 Posted November 4, 2020 Sadly this is pretty common. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,113 battles Report post #3 Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Communist_Loli said: This man has literally Freexp'd through every tier (save for the 3 games on Kolberg) to get to tier 10 on the GK and Hindenburg. Supplied with all the games he's been playing on his tier 8 premiums... did you check his co-op battles? he might have many thousands of them... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] rimmer_the Players 407 posts Report post #4 Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Communist_Loli said: This post is just me ranting about a peculiar teammate I happen to have the honor of playing with. I started the game with the GK abandoning the left flank and sailing across the map to the other side. I pinged him for assistance but it went ignored and he stayed his course. I'm like ok... at least we got other friendlies from the center coming over to help out. He then proceeds to do a 180 and turn around after having wasted like 3 min sailing away initially. But even then, as a brawling BB, he was still too far away to be of any use. For the next 10 min of the game, he has refused to push up whatsoever. Spending all his time taking potshots at max range. Even when the game was basically over, and we were closing in for the kill, this was where he was..... After I sank to the Richtofen and started spectating. I found that this man still had 100% of his bloody HP this entire game..... But in hindsight, it shouldn't be surprising when he's spent the entire game hiding with our CV at the back. We ended the game with him obviously being at the very bottom of the scoreboard. Luckily most of my teammates were competent enough to pull a win. But man, why would you get on a German BB just to play him as a backline sniper? I did a little digging on his profile to see why. And boy was I not prepared to witness the things I was about to see... This man has literally Freexp'd through every tier (save for the 3 games on Kolberg) to get to tier 10 on the GK and Hindenburg. Supplied with all the games he's been playing on his tier 8 premiums... I'm fine with people throwing free XP to skip certain ships they don't enjoy but my god, I've never seen one like this before. I think brawling BB's should have reduced "radio"range. But WG thinks this is fine. They tried a half-assed fix with Epicenter but we all know how that worked out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy Players 2,021 posts Report post #5 Posted November 4, 2020 Didn't you hear it's a viable tactic to protect the CV? This actually made you win this game and he is the better strategic player than you!!!1111 elevenonehundredeleven Also German BBs are among strongest and most precise in the game so the plebs like you should spot for it. Actually this is the worst part of the game, having to play a team game without a team. WG motivates players to rush up the tiers and actively promotes ignorance, bad sportsmanship and learning resistance by allowing to cash into T9 and T10. It's a horrible one-sided business approach and the others player who care about this game have to suffer. There is close to ZERO learning curve in tier 10 battles, they are the most frustrating tier for me. The majority of games is not about skill, but about who has to play with the lesser idiots. Add on top the usual steamroll games where you either get ripped apart after you sailed towards a flank or the games where you push through without stopping easily breaking your damage records. Imho the game doomed itself. It is just an artificial ecosystem with lots of shady mechanics, hidden statistics, frequent changes and heavy balance issues. If you told your former 15 year ago ego that games like this will be the golden standard allowing to rake in 60 € for a premium ship, you would tell yourself you are out of your god damn mind. 4 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #6 Posted November 4, 2020 Maybe I am wrong, but I think I am seeing more absolutely moronic behaviour lately. Yesterday a IJN DD sailed south and only came into the battle after 10 minutes shooting its guns at a Colorado. First I thought it was a bot, but apparently it was a humanoid after all. Too many braindead zombies of late. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,226 battles Report post #7 Posted November 4, 2020 Sadly not that unusual in this game, and the worst thing is he will walk away thinking it must work as a strategy because you guys won. The fact you won despite his actions not because of them will be beyond his comprehension. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEEL] PeteEarthling [STEEL] Players 1,037 posts Report post #8 Posted November 4, 2020 There are a lot of examples of T10 geniuses, so what? A T10 CV player with those coop/random results... epic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #9 Posted November 4, 2020 I remember ranting about the way most of the BB's seemingly play, in my case not supporting DD's, I am afraid it's the norm now... the little kiddies want to be in the top flights now, they want to be playing the big ships... and as you say WG offers Tier 7 and Tier 8 premiums to anyone regardless of their experience levels so what better way to get their free XP... Randoms are a waste of time now, you will occasionally get a game where the team work together, the word team in the majority of games I have played no longer exists.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] Miscommunication Players 550 posts 6,680 battles Report post #10 Posted November 4, 2020 I usually find that the matchmaker does a pretty decent job of distributing the useless players fairly equally between both teams, and often you can turn a battle into a win even if you're down a teammate. However, on the other hand, if your CV happens to be a TX wallet warrior with zero skill, then you are in a lot of trouble. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #11 Posted November 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Drasnighta said: I usually find that the matchmaker does a pretty decent job of distributing the useless players fairly equally between both teams, and often you can turn a battle into a win even if you're down a teammate. However, on the other hand, if your CV happens to be a TX wallet warrior with zero skill, then you are in a lot of trouble. I agree, you can make something of over 90% of random games. 30% are actually good fun, 60% are OK but you need to watch your own teams behaviour carefully to get the most out of it, and 10% is sheer misery due to the complete cluelessness of your team making any intelligent play impossible 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #12 Posted November 4, 2020 I don't care about the fact gow he got there and why. The fact I care about: He did basically NOTHING and scored more XP than a guy on the losing side who has 4 kills!!!!! This is the truest bull**** of this game. Camp and farm and let the others die for you. WG: 9 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #13 Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, rimmer_the said: I think brawling BB's should have reduced "radio"range. But WG thinks this is fine. They tried a half-assed fix with Epicenter but we all know how that worked out... Steel Ocean had interesting mechanics. There was Concealment and View range combined together: BBs have bad concealment, good view range, while DDs have good concealment and bad view range If a DD meets a DD, they might would see them at ~6km. If a DD meets a BB, the DD saw the BB very early, lets say 15km, but the BB would see the DD at ~8km because of the good view range. So the concealment wasn't a fix stat, it was different for each ship to ship encounter. Though it's complex^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #14 Posted November 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said: I don't care about the fact gow he got there and why. The fact I care about: He did basically NOTHING and scored more XP than a guy on the losing side who has 4 kills!!!!! This is the truest bull**** of this game. Camp and farm and let the others die for you. WG: Well, it's the winning team, those get a boost. Also a CV has reduced exp gain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #15 Posted November 4, 2020 I know you're a communist, but do you know how expensive paint is? Do you? DO YOU? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] Prophecy82 Players 3,362 posts 26,028 battles Report post #16 Posted November 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Communist_Loli said: This man has literally Freexp'd through every tier (save for the 3 games on Kolberg) to get to tier 10 on the GK and Hindenburg. Supplied with all the games he's been playing on his tier 8 premiums... Sadly you cant see which of the ships he played first... also I assume these are the Random stats without Coop. I guess the narrative is the following: He played T1-T2 in Coop, and went Random for those 3 Kolberg matches. He got stomped by double CV and bought Derpitz. Since his traumatising experience in T3 he decided to farm Elite-EP on Derpitz until he had enough to skip to GK. Interestingly it takes about 350 Battles óf Mediocre/Bad - EP to get 2 T10s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #17 Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Humorpalanta said: The fact I care about: He did basically NOTHING and scored more XP than a guy on the losing side who has 4 kills!!!!! Thats the issue with WGs XP distribution... also once i got 1k baseXP, despite doing nothing. I was last sure, but i would have deserved like 300 or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R3DR1D1NGH0OD Players 52 posts 72 battles Report post #18 Posted November 4, 2020 It's like this in many games. I think the ones who have a much higher amount of battles still playing the way it is shown on the screenshots are much more of an issue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] Cheradanine [CU] Players 57 posts 11,248 battles Report post #19 Posted November 4, 2020 Relying on team mates? Yeah dont do that. Sometimes they do what you would like them to do, but mostly not. Worry about your own game is the thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #20 Posted November 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Salentine said: did you check his co-op battles? he might have many thousands of them... 71 Coop-Battles (65x Tirpitz + 6x Hindenburg) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,581 battles Report post #21 Posted November 4, 2020 The funny thing is, he skipped all the actually good KM battleships to be able to do this :D 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CELTA] BielayaSmert Players 754 posts Report post #22 Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Prophecy82 said: Sadly you cant see which of the ships he played first... also I assume these are the Random stats without Coop. I guess the narrative is the following: He played T1-T2 in Coop, and went Random for those 3 Kolberg matches. He got stomped by double CV and bought Derpitz. Since his traumatising experience in T3 he decided to farm Elite-EP on Derpitz until he had enough to skip to GK. Interestingly it takes about 350 Battles óf Mediocre/Bad - EP to get 2 T10s You need +-2.000.000 freeXP to grind two lines 2.000.000 / 360 = 5.555 freeXP ¿¿360 games with more tan 5.500 freeXP every single game?? That´s impossible. In addition to 360 randoms to get GK and Hindi this guy needs to play hundreds of coops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R3DR1D1NGH0OD Players 52 posts 72 battles Report post #23 Posted November 4, 2020 Vor 7 Minuten, Itwastuesday sagte: The funny thing is, he skipped all the actually good KM battleships to be able to do this :D Can you please tell me which ones are good besides Pommern? Which ones are must haves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #24 Posted November 4, 2020 Get the seal clubber special: Nassau, König and - most of all - Bayern. You *could* play Bismarck, but why require actual skill? Just slap a 19-point captain on a Bayern and farm stats. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #25 Posted November 4, 2020 Flambass just made a video about this. This is not ALL on BB players but they with their 100 K HP and heals play the biggest role in this. When mostly BB mains gets their head around this they will probably start winning most games their play. It is actually this simple (most of the time) , but instead in 80-90 % of the games we have 3-4 Full HP BBS and rest of the team dead. Imagine if DDs where out front, spotting, screening for torps, BBs a couple of km´s behind tanking, dealing damage, getting smoked by DDs or disengaging now and then and last cruisers a couple of km´s behind the BBs spamming long range fire. Instead we have DDs and cruisers getting blapped and then 3-4 Full HP BBs still sitting on the 2-line. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
