terrible Worst dd in WOWS

[UnterSeeBot]

1st I sank the enemy CV, it all went downhill after that.

 

this is a gratuitous gloat, my best Terrible result ever. (or should that be my worst?) so I deserve any downvotes.

top tier, all victims were tier 6&7, minimal allied support (no competition over targets) so ideal conditions

My Terrible technique is to go full berserk 50 knots cap at start (if possible)/sink enemy keyship (usually CV), gain dd numbers advantage by nuking at least one enemy dd, then harrass spot from the rear of enemy positions. Conan style. Legendary Captain Phil Aboyneau for style points (pretty shell tracers).

1st blood is helpful, as is a cap, just for the free fireworks with the legendary.

 

[_HomTanks_]

Don't get the title "worst dd in wows" since le terrible is a very gud boat.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

A brag topic with a click bait title that shows an actually okay DD? 

 

lol

[Panocek]

Worst DD yes, you can't even fail in one properly

[CptBarney]

shigure is.

no buli.

 

Also i get the joke as well lol. Should go in that thread with really good scores.

[CptBarney]

Dis one.

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/9009-what-were-your-greatest-gaming-achievements-today/?page=620

[UnterSeeBot]

10 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Dis one.

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/9009-what-were-your-greatest-gaming-achievements-today/?page=620

didn't know about that thread, *^{filed for future ref.}

16 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

A brag topic with a click bait title that shows an actually okay DD? 

 

I should blush, I guess.

[Aethervoxx]

You should be sunk OP - your post title is completely misleading. How about you suggest what might be the real worst DD (to make amends for your bragging)?

Personally, I would say it's probably a T3 DD since they can see a battle with two T4 CVs (thanks to War Failing) hence whatever the DD is, it's dead.

 

[Aragathor]

And here I was expecting a topic about Khaba or Z-52...

[CptBarney]

50 minutes ago, LoveZeppelin said:

didn't know about that thread, *^{filed for future ref.}

I should blush, I guess.

Ahh ok, but yeah thats were it goes, for really gud games in-general.

Or even just getting very rare rewards even if the game wasn't that special in-general.

[UnterSeeBot]

42 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

You should be sunk OP - your post title is completely misleading. How about you suggest what might be the real worst DD (to make amends for your bragging)?

Personally, I would say it's probably a T3 DD since they can see a battle with two T4 CVs (thanks to War Failing) hence whatever the DD is, it's dead.

 

Well, really worst dd would be any t3 silver tech tree, stock, dd captained by someone with fewer than 200 battles, and a 3 point captain,  in a 4 x (seal clubbing purple) cv match. But personally, I struggle with many dds of all tiers, especially any dd that anyone claims is OP.

Khaba is a good candidate for "very difficult to play well" dd. Kleber post nerf really went downhill. I can't speak for Z52, don't have it, likewise, I have heard bad things about Yueyang post nerf, but I don't have it (I like the Chung Mu though), everyone says Kitekaze and haragumo are great dds, what can I say, I do terribly bad in them? So I am not the best person to offer an opinion on that.

edit no dd is fun when enemy cv player is competent, or when enemy team has 3 x radar, and the enemy team radar cruisers understand how and when to use it, but your own tier 10 radar cruiser 10000+ battle players don't even know what "radar" means, let alone find the right button to click.

moral of the story, don't play dds at tier 10, or at tier 3!

[Aethervoxx]

11 minutes ago, LoveZeppelin said:

moral of the story, don't play dds at tier 10, or at tier 3!

Except, before the CV rework, DDs were always fun & challenging to play & did make a big difference in the battle.

Now, post CV rework, DDs are extremely challenging to play & may make a big difference in the battle & not often much fun to play.

Net result: DDs have been majorly screwed (along with the rework which screwed CVs).

[UnterSeeBot]

1 minute ago, Aethervoxx said:

Except, before the CV rework, DDs were always fun & challenging to play & did make a big difference in the battle.

Now, post CV rework, DDs are extremely challenging to play & may make a big difference in the battle & not often much fun to play.

Net result: DDs have been majorly screwed (along with the rework which screwed CVs).

not always. A tier 10 dd triple cross dropped by a unicum rts Hak player in the opening 3 minutes of a battle, was just as screwed as a tier 10 dd spotted, and then HE bombed by a unicum (with a 50% WR in every other class of ship) rework Midway player in the opening minute of the battle..

I am not sure which is worse. RTS Cv gameplay was at least much more "honest", air power was king, and we all understood the logic of why even if we didn't like it. The rework tries to pretend CVs are just like any other class of ship, and fails.

[invicta2012]

Worst DD? The one that smokes up straight after being spotted. 

 

Le Terrible used to be rubbish, I'm told, but now it's the same as Le Fanta. Which is  Fantasque. 

 

The serious answer to this question is probably Acasta or Jianwei. But I've seen people make those work. 

[Thorsvald]

1 hour ago, invicta2012 said:

Worst DD? The one that smokes up straight after being spotted. 

 

Le Terrible used to be rubbish, I'm told, but now it's the same as Le Fanta. Which is  Fantasque. 

 

The serious answer to this question is probably Acasta or Jianwei. But I've seen people make those work. 

I would also vote for jianwei, or even every eu destroyer upon tier 8.

[MrWastee]

"conan style" is imo the very most wrong way to play these boats. but maybe that's me.... and in some regards they're probably the best ones around lol

[jss78]

Never was the worst DD as far as I can tell. The forums/reddity did sh*t a brick back when the thing was released, as the concept of a smokeless DD broke the mold.

[Hedgehog1963]

[asalonen]

2 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

Le Terrible used to be rubbish, I'm told, but now it's the same as Le Fanta. Which is  Fantasque. 

The Terrible was great from day one. Very strong and a lot of fun.

 

I don't recall if it was buffed at some point, but nothing major at least. It's just that the majority of players weren't ready for it, meaning the concept of a smokeless destroyer, so it got a lot of bad press.

 

It remains a Fantasque with better speed, faster gun reload, faster torp reload, but worse concealment and worse AA. It's less forgiving but arguably better.

[invicta2012]

38 minutes ago, asalonen said:

The Terrible was great from day one. Very strong and a lot of fun.

Didn't they have to tweak the French DD's hull properties, so that saturation of the centre area occurred? I seem to recall Le Terrible being released without that and WG having to spend quite some time working on the solution? 

[UnterSeeBot]

1 hour ago, asalonen said:

The Terrible was great from day one. Very strong and a lot of fun.

 

I don't recall if it was buffed at some point, but nothing major at least. It's just that the majority of players weren't ready for it, meaning the concept of a smokeless destroyer, so it got a lot of bad press.

 

It remains a Fantasque with better speed, faster gun reload, faster torp reload, but worse concealment and worse AA. It's less forgiving but arguably better.

38 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Didn't they have to tweak the French DD's hull properties, so that saturation of the centre area occurred? I seem to recall Le Terrible being released without that and WG having to spend quite some time working on the solution? 

I obtained Terrible as soon as it was released, and have never found it a bad dd. But it was buffed last year. The biggest difference from my point of view was to survivability (hit point allocation) as i rarely use the AP.

On 4/10/2019 at 2:00 PM, Sehales said:

The testing of changes to the tier VIII French destroyer 'Le Terrible' was successful, and we're planning to implement these changes for the ship in update 0.8.3. Here is what changed:

• Initial AP shells velocity increased from 800 to 840 m/s;
• The Krupp value for the AP shells is now 2400 instead of 2100, this will increase armor penetration;
• Reduced the value of the coefficient of air resistance from 0.3498 to 0.234 for HE and AP shells;
• Changed the allocation of hit points of the ship.

 

Changes to the air resistance coefficient of shells will allow this destroyer to feel more comfortable at long and medium ranges, and the improved armor penetration will give a new option: engaging cruisers with AP shells. It will be necessary to consider the target's armor and distance, but it allows for the potential of inflicting serious damage to lightly armored cruisers even at 10 km, especially when used in conjunction with the Main Battery Reload Booster.

 

One of the major challenges faced by Le Terrible was regarding it's low survivability, which will be improved by the new hit points allocation system. It will allow the destroyer to survive longer under intense and sustained fire.

 

1 hour ago, jss78 said:

Never was the worst DD as far as I can tell. The forums/reddity did sh*t a brick back when the thing was released, as the concept of a smokeless DD broke the mold.

Indeed, forum and Reddit hated the idea of Terrible. It still does have a bad (weak) reputation in game for many players, which is an advantage. When players think your ship is not worth worrying about/focussing, there are many possibilities.

[That_Other_Nid]

So dad, how do i get a Kraken? Well son, your team needs to be bad and the opposing team needs to be worse. 

[KillStealBoss]

Came here it'll be about Khaba... Disappointed 

[A3iou]

Worst DD is not the LT...

 

....it is the Gearing ! 

[rimmer_the]

9 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

Didn't they have to tweak the French DD's hull properties, so that saturation of the centre area occurred? I seem to recall Le Terrible being released without that and WG having to spend quite some time working on the solution? 

How often has this happened because your DD got less support than the enemy team ?