Is matchmaking broken?

[crippsy99]

I can't help but wonder if either matchmaking is broken at the moment, or im somehow being punished by the WG team, but all month its been loss after loss after loss..

I know MM is meant to stick you roughly in games so you have 50/50 chance.. but almost every single game im playing, im the only one to destroy any ships, and the rest of the team just either suicides or plays really dumb, and its a complete massacre.. every game.. im talking about 1 or 2 from their team sunk, for the entire friendly team dead, so its not even close games. My damage and kill rates are rising, but because of the rest of the teams my win rate stats are nose diving.

 

Ive been trying to grind the various missions, but in all honesty the game has completely lost its fun factor for me now as its taking 3-4 times as long to complete any of the 'get base xp' missions with all the losses, and no, im not the problem on every single team. Surely this can't be right that im losing so many games, so badly? 
Seems to get even worse when I actually have premium account time, which makes it even more confusing!

[arquata2019_]

3 minuti fa, crippsy99 ha scritto:

I can't help but wonder if either matchmaking is broken at the moment, or im somehow being punished by the WG team, but all month its been loss after loss after loss..

I know MM is meant to stick you roughly in games so you have 50/50 chance.. but almost every single game im playing, im the only one to destroy any ships, and the rest of the team just either suicides or plays really dumb, and its a complete massacre.. every game.. im talking about 1 or 2 from their team sunk, for the entire friendly team dead, so its not even close games. My damage and kill rates are rising, but because of the rest of the teams my win rate stats are nose diving.

 

Ive been trying to grind the various missions, but in all honesty the game has completely lost its fun factor for me now as its taking 3-4 times as long to complete any of the 'get base xp' missions with all the losses, and no, im not the problem on every single team. Surely this can't be right that im losing so many games, so badly? 
Seems to get even worse when I actually have premium account time, which makes it even more confusing!

it's weekend, and you're being really, but really unlucky.

can't help with that :(

[DFens_666]

6 minutes ago, crippsy99 said:

and no, im not the problem on every single team. Surely this can't be right that im losing so many games, so badly? 

 

The biggest problem is most likely inconsistency. Sometimes you perform really bad, sometimes average, sometimes decently.

https://wows-numbers.com/de/player/552958098,crippsy99/

If you click last 21 days and sort by WR, you can see, that most of the time you win more if your performance is better, with some outliers (tallinn / Moskva on the lucky side, compared to NC / maybe some others on the unlucky side).

But here is the problem: Look at some ships like Wooster/Nevsky/Riga. Overall, the stats are just not good enough. Maybe you could have gotten a win here and there with better performance? Hard to say tho...

[ColonelPete]

24 minutes ago, crippsy99 said:

Surely this can't be right that im losing so many games, so badly? 

You are not entitled to wins. Nobody is granting them to you.

Out of 185 matches, you lost around 15 more matches than usual. That can happen.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Seems it is weekend. Had a battle today where three of our ships played sitting ducks for about 5 or 6 of the enemy ships. I assume they imagined they were 'holding' the flank'. They weren't.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Seems it is weekend. Had a battle today where three of our ships played sitting ducks for about 5 or 6 of the enemy ships. I assume they imagined they were 'holding' the flank'. They weren't.

Some people have weekend every day...

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

Some people have weekend every day...

 

Yes! I try to make weekends last all week if possible!

[gabberworld]

43 minutes ago, crippsy99 said:

or im somehow being punished by the WG team,

 

 

yes , they looked your account and see that you not buy en-oh premium ships

 

are you supporting your team? or you are solo player? i looked that your Average Damage increased but winrate  drop , to you rush to high tier matches?

[Bear__Necessities]

Can’t say I’ve had any issues in the last 2/3 months of playing. Though I’ve mostly been playing on NA (not that it makes a difference)

[Logan_MountStuart]

The last week, playing T7, has been incredibly poor in understanding of how the game actually works.

Mainly, in Standard battles, where people push and push and die and die, and they have absolutely no idea how the mode works, some have even admitted it in chat saying "we're winning," while our base is capped and even messaging in port asking why we lost.

Many seem to have got to that level and think that 4 or 5 ships pushing into the A,B,C,1,2,3 corner and chasing one or two of the opposition is good play while the team has been decimated elsewhere and we are left with me in Lyon or KGV, grinding both, defending the base.  In one battle for example, 23 defended flags, because the rest were cruising in no man's land.

[Camperdown]

The last few days I also notice that players seem more stupid than usual. 

Perhaps some of the events are getting them out of the woodwork 

[_HomTanks_]

9 hours ago, crippsy99 said:

I can't help but wonder if either matchmaking is broken at the moment

Was it ever not broken?

[Captain_Singleton]

9 hours ago, crippsy99 said:

I know MM is meant to stick you roughly in games so you have 50/50 chance..

whatever gave you that idea? it's random, that's all

[humpty_1]

my winrate has gone from around 51% to 39% in the last 3 weeks  :(

[principat121]

6 minutes ago, humpty_1 said:

my winrate has gone from around 51% to 39% in the last 3 weeks  :(

And this is completely your own fault and not to blame on the MM.

[SirAmra]

11 hours ago, crippsy99 said:

I know MM is meant to stick you roughly in games so you have 50/50 chance.

No, it's not. WG does not have a skillbased MM. It tries to balance equal types of classes and tiers.

The rest is at the mercy of the tomatoes u get or don't get.

I had a bloody awfull friday in every aspect, but I had a better saturday.

[humpty_1]

9 minutes ago, principat121 said:

And this is completely your own fault and not to blame on the MM.

ok partly maybe, but when you have ships so far back and using radars etc etc doing nowt i'm sorry but summuts up ...

[ColonelPete]

10 minutes ago, humpty_1 said:

ok partly maybe, but when you have ships so far back and using radars etc etc doing nowt i'm sorry but summuts up ...

We have this for many years. That is nothing new to you.

[SV_Kompresor]

My first and last two games today:

 

It was clear that both of them were losses within the first 2 minutes. It's not the MM, it's the players. Unfortunately WG has made this a problem with no quick solution. WG needs to make the grind harder so that the game becomes enjoyable again in about 2 years.

[gabberworld]

wg can't make everyone happy at same time, when server have 30000 users then 15000 lose battle 

 

better luck next time. mm can't fix this

 

[SeaWolf7]

10 minutes ago, domen3 said:

 

 It's not the MM, it's the players. Unfortunately WG has made this a problem with no quick solution. 

 

Have to agree. You can see in Randoms the newer player base have been ushered to progress as quickly as possible without really learning any discipline for the game, Map awareness, how to support, positioning, what you roll is depending on the class you have chosen. etc, Tier VIII Premiums (and now above) continue to be in abundance and readily available with 0 knowledge of the game Required. Years ago Everyone said that if they continue with this kind of marketing for long enough it would cause issues......and so here we are.

[humpty_1]

1 hour ago, SirAmra said:

No, it's not. WG does not have a skillbased MM. It tries to balance equal types of classes and tiers.

The rest is at the mercy of the tomatoes u get or don't get.

I had a bloody awfull friday in every aspect, but I had a better saturday.

when you have 3 4 or even 5 radars vs 0 or 1 then  the mm is broken. imho it does need some fine tuning..

[illy]

know the feeling well, i don't mind losing if it's a hard fought close game....... but those games are getting rarer and rarer these days

[SirAmra]

1 hour ago, humpty_1 said:

when you have 3 4 or even 5 radars vs 0 or 1 then  the mm is broken. imho it does need some fine tuning..

Ship balance is a problem yes.

But as mentioned above, this is nothing new. The radar cruisers doesn't impact the cruisers and BBs that much. It hurts the DDs.

But with an average playerbase on the level of windowlickers, the proper use of radar cruisers isn't that massive.

I've lost count on how many players that pop their radar or hydro at game start.

The sole problem in this game is the playerbase and the complete lack of any requirements to progress the tiers. So they blitz the tiers and learn nothing.

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

2 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said:

 

Have to agree. You can see in Randoms the newer player base have been ushered to progress as quickly as possible without really learning any discipline for the game, Map awareness, how to support, positioning, what you roll is depending on the class you have chosen. etc, Tier VIII Premiums (and now above) continue to be in abundance and readily available with 0 knowledge of the game Required. Years ago Everyone said that if they continue with this kind of marketing for long enough it would cause issues......and so here we are.

 

WOWS is designed as a (lootbox) resource collector game more and more, creating a playerbase that is focused on reward mechanics instead of gameplay mechanics. If you haven't noticed, all evernts are about resources and time gating, not about knowledge or skill. Even ranked is a time gated resource event over a skill based event. The thing people like bast about coop usuaally is that matches last 2-3 minutes. Better bots are frouned upon.

 

MM is not the issue actually, it's just random behaving like random does. I do understand where you are coming from, I had an insane losing streak at patch day, and aside from that being one hell of a troll magnet by itself, I was having a bad day and it reflected on my choices ingame, so a 45% WR for the day as a result. Calm down and try to recall where your strengths lie, re focus on those.