This is the effect of your "balancing efforts", reworks, lack of PvE care and all

[StanleyHTweedle]

Today, 2 PM. That's where all the CV players went after the last changes. Soon you'll be left with 80% hc players and 20% casuals, with word-of-mouth that WoWs is elitistic and unfriendly to newcomers, and nobody will even touch your game that you put so much effort into. It's corona-time, and you should be literally flooded with new players coming in. So what's happening? Where are they? Seems you're doing everything right, promoting PvP and making all the balance changes to promote skill, strategy etc... everything a "unicum" player can boast. So why is the player base dwindling?

 

If that's what you want, go ahead, please... keep listening to the loud minority :) I will be laughing my aft off in a year or two, saying "told you so". 

[DFens_666]

5 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

That's where all the CV players went after the last changes.

 

I still dont understand this. So the "loud minority" is complaining about CVs, which made CVs unplayable (?!), and thats why WoWs is failing? Because the 3% CV players leave the game or what?

 

6 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

 Soon you'll be left with 80% hc players and 20% casuals,

 

I think we currently have like 95% casuals (even if they have 30k games - they never learn anything, so they are casual players), and 5% players who are willing to put in some effort to play properly.

[ForlornSailor]

4 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

Today, 2 PM. That's where all the CV players went after the last changes. Soon you'll be left with 80% hc players and 20% casuals, with word-of-mouth that WoWs is elitistic and unfriendly to newcomers, and nobody will even touch your game that you put so much effort into. It's corona-time, and you should be literally flooded with new players coming in. So what's happening? Where are they? Seems you're doing everything right, promoting PvP and making all the balance changes to promote skill, strategy etc... everything a "unicum" player can boast. So why is the player base dwindling? 

 

If that's what you want, go ahead, please... keep listening to the loud minority :) I will be laughing my aft off in a year or two, saying "told you so". 

 

LOL. Literally every change in the recent past was catering to bad players and removing skill & thinking from the game - yet its still too hard for you?

- Making CVs so easy to play, because the average joe couldnt keep up with doing more then one thing at a time.

- Nerfing flooding to the ground, because it was too much thinking progress on how to use DCP efficiantly

- Giving everyone permium consumables, because ((that)) group of players couldnt understand how valuable it is to have a short cooldown or an extra consumable

And you STILL complain, that the game is "elitist" and "unfriendly to newcomers" L O L

But ill give you something, why the game is unfriendly for newcomers: CVs :)

[Thorsvald]

hahahaha

I wish it were as you have described.

It's a pitty that actually CV's are the most broken class in game by far and are ruining low tier game play.

 

 

[Fat_Maniac]

10 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

But ill give you something, why the game is unfriendly for newcomers: CVs :)

^This 100%^

The number of low tier CV's is turning new players away. I have experienced it first hand, and on two separate occasions. I have introduced new players to the game, they get to T3 -5 and are suddenly meeting a CV in every game and 2 in far too many of them. With no real AA, both asked me what am I supposed to learn from this, and walked away from the game.

I raised this with Sub_Oct at a Q&A and was told there was no issue. 

Sorry but low tier CV numbers are ruining the new player experience, even with the protected MM changes made.

[_Teob_]

Please remember to be courteous even if you don't agree with the sentiments expressed by the OP.

 

[HystericalAccuracy]

16 minutes ago, Fat_Maniac said:

The number of low tier CV's is turning new players away.

I am not so new (20k battles) and even i got pushed away by CVs. Tenryiu and Wakatake were among my favs at T3 but got abandoned since "something" happened one and a half years ago.

Bah.

I don´t even feel like typing all the other things i could type here, you all know it anyway.

[Ashardalon_Dragnipur]

lol balance changes to promote skill 

playerbase is dwindling because there is a CV playerbase 

[El2aZeR]

1 hour ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

That's where all the CV players went after the last changes. 

 

Ah, so after the latest round of buffs CV players are still complaining that CVs are too difficult to play?

[MrWastee]

there's so much wrong in that post, i only can take out popcorn for now.... it's like i not agree with it, it's simply false! twisted, torn and fundamentically subjective, negating like anything what actually happened in regard to balancing within quite some time now!

[Migantium_Mashum]

1 hour ago, DFens_666 said:

5% players who are willing to put in some effort to play properly.

Those 5% of players trying to play properly are getting thoroughly fed up with the others... I have just had the same today as I have seen through the whole week... BB's so far back they're still in their last game.. enemy radar cruisers left standing despite being spotted, offering broadsides, right up to the end of the game... meaning DD's cannot push. Just no attempt to play a team game... yes it's the weekend but this is no longer just a weekend issue...

 

I've reached the point where this game is no longer fun...

 

 

[1MajorKoenig]

50 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Ah, so after the latest round of buffs CV players are still complaining that CVs are too difficult to play?

Ah yea, what last round of buffs? The  plane survivability nerf or the rocket reticle nerf? 

[mdjmcnally]

I am a casual player and what find most annoying is how difficult to co-ordinate with other people properly.

 

whilst there are two sides, there are not two teams in each game.

really need a better in game communication for players so that can coordinate together.

[HMS_Kilinowski]

20 minutes ago, mdjmcnally said:

I am a casual player and what find most annoying is how difficult to co-ordinate with other people properly.

 

whilst there are two sides, there are not two teams in each game.

really need a better in game communication for players so that can coordinate together.

 

Not reporting players for telling a casual to stay on the side he spawned would be a start. Staying on that very side would almost be too advanced. There is this coordinating tool available called common sense. It's just a mod not installed on the casual brain. inb4: Reported for "mod-abuse".

[Ashardalon_Dragnipur]

27 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Ah yea, what last round of buffs? The  plane survivability nerf or the rocket reticle nerf? 

there was no survivability nerf, just a bug that let aa do its job for once even if it was too late

and even then you never ran out proving that it didnt even matter 

 

meanwhile: Tier VIII British aircraft carrier Implacable

• Changes to bomb characteristics:
• Maximum damage increased from 4,900 to 5,100.
• Chances of setting a target on fire increased from 28% to 29%.

because that was definitely necessary 

[1MajorKoenig]

2 minutes ago, Ashardalon_Dragnipur said:

there was no survivability nerf, just a bug that let aa do its job for once even if it was too late

and even then you never ran out proving that it didnt even matter 

 

meanwhile: Tier VIII British aircraft carrier Implacable

• Changes to bomb characteristics:
• Maximum damage increased from 4,900 to 5,100.
• Chances of setting a target on fire increased from 28% to 29%.

because that was definitely necessary 

Ah, now we call a buff to an individual ship that apparently nobody likes the “last round of CV buffs”. That’s even thinner than I thought 

[159Hunter]

9 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Ah, now we call a buff to an individual ship that apparently nobody likes the “last round of CV buffs”. That’s even thinner than I thought 

And completely ignoring the first part of @Ashardalon_Dragnipur post. 

If that's so thin btw, show me a ship that recently had his aa buffed intentionally by WG.

[El2aZeR]

54 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Ah yea, what last round of buffs? The  plane survivability nerf or the rocket reticle nerf? 

 

The 2 rounds of plane survivability buffs that have undone the nerfs in 0.9.9. Perhaps you should actually pay attention to patchnotes.

Along with some undocumented buffs that have stayed and a new exploitable mechanic.

 

21 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Ah, now we call a buff to an individual ship that apparently nobody likes the “last round of CV buffs”. That’s even thinner than I thought 

 

Says the guy who points towards the rocket reticle nerf which has had no effect or was even a buff on most CVs.

Hypocrisy at its finest as usual.

[CptBarney]

Implacable got buffed? Also CV's got buffs as well? Been out of the loop for awhile now it seems.

[1MajorKoenig]

21 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Along with some undocumented buffs that have stayed and a new exploitable mechanic.

Such as?

 

22 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

has had no effect or was even a buff on most CVs.

Hypocrisy at its finest as usual

I’m afraid that needs a proof since your claim isn’t exactly obvious. Most of the times an enemy DD will either run away from you or try to Shorten the distance to you and hope you are an idiot and overshoot. In both cases a reticle as before is much more useful.

[lossi_2018]

Same people arguing against themselves. Actually blaming the smallest percentage of the playerbase for their losing interest in the game. As if everything was fine before or after. As if they battle CV gurus right and left wit no hope of survival lol. Almost believable, as if there are no other huge probs in game. Run wit a narrative for a year and a half. And wonder where the people went. That's not hopeful at all in the midst of a pandemic not less.

Moment covid dies, few people left will flock away. Maybe then things will come back to normal...

 

not/

[El2aZeR]

33 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Such as?

 

Figure those out for yourself. I am under no obligation to share and I've typed those out already elsewhere.

 

33 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

I’m afraid that needs a proof since your claim isn’t exactly obvious. Most of the times an enemy DD will either run away from you or try to Shorten the distance to you and hope you are an idiot and overshoot. In both cases a reticle as before is much more useful.

 

In most cases there has been no change in performance on angled targets while in a few cases performance against broadside targets has been enhanced.

I've done extensive testing on that when the change was on PTS.

[1MajorKoenig]

7 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

In most cases there has been no change in performance on angled targets while in a few cases performance against broadside targets has been enhanced.

I've done extensive testing on that when the change was on PTS.

Assuming half way angled. Which is not the majority of cases I see 

 

8 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Figure those out for yourself. I am under no obligation to share and I've typed those out already elsewhere.

Another half backed claim after all - what a surprise. 

[SnuSnu_RIP]

4 hours ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

Today, 2 PM. That's where all the CV players went after the last changes. Soon you'll be left with 80% hc players and 20% casuals, with word-of-mouth that WoWs is elitistic and unfriendly to newcomers, and nobody will even touch your game that you put so much effort into. It's corona-time, and you should be literally flooded with new players coming in. So what's happening? Where are they? Seems you're doing everything right, promoting PvP and making all the balance changes to promote skill, strategy etc... everything a "unicum" player can boast. So why is the player base dwindling?

 

If that's what you want, go ahead, please... keep listening to the loud minority :) I will be laughing my aft off in a year or two, saying "told you so". 

Seriously, under which stone you were living the last 2 years? For me and all the others here it seems you play another game. Maybe you should start watching some streams of good players - then you can see the truth about the game and especially the casual playerbase, which is ruining a good game with their laziness and lack of improvement. 

[El2aZeR]

7 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Assuming half way angled. Which is not the majority of cases I see 

 

No, even when fully bow/aft on.

 

8 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Another half backed claim after all - what a surprise. 

 

Says the guy perpetuating outright lies.

Hint: The new mechanic is in the patchnotes. It's hard to miss.