mil71 Beta Tester 202 posts Report post #1 Posted October 31, 2020 You do all this and still, lose. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #2 Posted October 31, 2020 Yeah well.. Welcome to World of Campers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,113 battles Report post #3 Posted October 31, 2020 so a game of 166k damage requires it's own thread, hardly exceptional is it... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #4 Posted October 31, 2020 I've seen players get Krakens (or better) & be on a losing side. I'm sure I've had a few 4 kills battles & done well personally & still my 'wonderful' team lost. Since no one but WG knows how they make the MM (how they insert players into a battle), this is why everyone 'loves' the WG MM so much. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #5 Posted October 31, 2020 Hello, you little... Spoiler 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #6 Posted October 31, 2020 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,499 battles Report post #7 Posted October 31, 2020 Considering the fact that the winning team gets a substantial Base XP bonus, this actually looks like a game that was quite balanced (also when you look at the individual scores). So WHY is this worthy of a thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] Johnny_Moneto Beta Tester 2,903 posts 22,225 battles Report post #8 Posted October 31, 2020 Please close. There is nothing to see here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #9 Posted October 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Johnny_Moneto said: Please close. There is nothing to see here. Gotta love the moderating on this forum. Ship happens, IB4C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #10 Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: I've seen players get Krakens (or better) & be on a losing side. I'm sure I've had a few 4 kills battles & done well personally & still my 'wonderful' team lost. Since no one but WG knows how they make the MM (how they insert players into a battle), this is why everyone 'loves' the WG MM so much. I’ve lost with Krakens a few times. Last time it was a confederate, kraken, high caliber game, among the kills were all the enemy DD’s and I almost scored a 6th kill as well. Imagine having a team that contributes... but this is what happens when most of your team members are between 42-46% with the obligatory 38% speshulist added for good measure. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #11 Posted October 31, 2020 When roflstomp: Complain When close game: Complain So in essence, people want to get 700k avg damage with 12 kills and win EVERY GAME, regardless of their skill level Wonder what the other 23 people will say to that... 3 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: I’ve lost with Krakens a few times. Last time it was a confederate, kraken, high caliber game, among the kills were all the enemy DD’s and I almost scored a 6th kill as well. Imagine having a team that contributes... but this is what happens when most of your team members are between 42-46% with the obligatory 38% speshulist added for good measure. Once lost a game where i had 6 kills and rest of my team had none. While i finished some low HP ships too, i cant even say it was killstealing, as there was simply noone left to kill them instead Once lost a game where we had 9 kills in our 2 man div. We could have actually won, but points/time ended against us due to Standard battle and people in our base. In the end we played 2vs6 and we pulled it back to 2v1... the one was a CV, he killed one of us and it was lost. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #12 Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: When roflstomp: Complain When close game: Complain So in essence, people want to get 700k avg damage with 12 kills and win EVERY GAME, regardless of their skill level Wonder what the other 23 people will say to that... You’re not wrong, and tbh I’ve complained about stomps and close games. I stand by the stomp complaints, it does mean one team was completely incompetent and it results in a bad game for both teams. When it’s close and you try to carry but you get that one genius that suicides and throws, it’s hard to not get frustrated... but you’re right, I’ll take a close defeat over a roflstomp any day. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #13 Posted October 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: You’re not wrong, and tbh I’ve complained about stomps and close games. I stand by the stomp complaints, it does mean one team was completely incompetent and it results in a bad game for both teams. When it’s close and you try to carry but you get that one genius that suicides and throws, it’s hard to not get frustrated... but you’re right, I’ll take a close defeat over a roflstomp any day. Yeah.. yesterday I missed how our Nagato got the bright idea to start chasing Devonshire across the map leaving me in my t5 BB and a few others to deal with the enemy t7 BB and friends. I think we lost that battle there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14 Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: You’re not wrong, and tbh I’ve complained about stomps and close games. I stand by the stomp complaints, it does mean one team was completely incompetent and it results in a bad game for both teams. When it’s close and you try to carry but you get that one genius that suicides and throws, it’s hard to not get frustrated... but you’re right, I’ll take a close defeat over a roflstomp any day. A close loss feels equaly devastating as a close win is satisfying Ive somewhat come to terms with roflstomps. Luckily getting them against me happens rarely due to me playing in divisions only. But i dont dwell on a roflstomp loss, since i couldnt have done anything to prevent that. When you get a close-ish loss, its easier to look back at your game and think "maybe i should have done this or that". Roflstomp wins arent that bad if you manage to have a good game. Ofc roflstomps are annoying/boring, that wont change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,228 battles Report post #15 Posted October 31, 2020 It's quite possible to get 9 kills (270,000+ damage) and still loose, welcome to WOWS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #16 Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said: It's quite possible to get 9 kills (270,000+ damage) and still loose, welcome to WOWS. *10 kills (170'000+ damage) 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #17 Posted October 31, 2020 29 minutes ago, Nov_A said: *10 kills (170'000+ damage) Nice kill steal skills. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] LeAzur Players 414 posts 18,932 battles Report post #18 Posted October 31, 2020 Reroll padding with ryujo??? Jeez 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #19 Posted October 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, LeAzur said: Reroll padding with ryujo??? Jeez I rerolled at 200 Coop games from Beta testing and this thread is a no bully zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DPRK] StonerStanley Players 275 posts 4,993 battles Report post #20 Posted October 31, 2020 says the one with the op ship 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #21 Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, DFens_666 said: When roflstomp: Complain When close game: Complain So in essence, people want to get 700k avg damage with 12 kills and win EVERY GAME, regardless of their skill level Wonder what the other 23 people will say to that... No, no. Let me fix it for you. What people REALLY want every game is 700k damage, 12 kills and a victory after a close match. Oh, and their team should only have good players in it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEXX] StanleyHTweedle Players 179 posts 7,608 battles Report post #22 Posted October 31, 2020 No, what people want is more operations and other PvE content, and definitely hardcore gamers getting their own league and not getting matched up with casuals, and then the game re-balanced for casuals again, like it was when it gained popularity, and people didn't drop out after less than a month of trying to have fun. Hardcore gamers and PvP-driven individuals broke this game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #23 Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Nov_A said: *10 kills (170'000+ damage) My keyboard would probably end up in the garden after such a match. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #24 Posted October 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said: Hardcore gamers and PvP-driven individuals broke this game. I still think the bigger problem is teams where 8-10 people have terrible stats. Giving broadside to everything, yoloing one by one into the enemy flank for no reason, exploring map edges and playing the "let's find the most useless position for my BB humanly possible" minigame, etc. If my team loses because an enemy super unicum division played exceptionally well, fair enough. If my team loses because most of them have absolutely zero idea what they're doing, well, that can be infuriating. Besides, try running wows-monitor and you'll soon see the state of the player base yourself: quite often most players on both teams are red (terrible stats). I've ran it long enough to confidently say the vast majority of the player base is just plain bad. I don't think you can blame the game's problems on a few unicums when the sea of red (stats) spans for over 80% of the player base. It's gotten so bad I really doubt 48% is average anymore, because I'm sure seeing a whole lot of people at 45 or below, and while below 40 used to be a rare sight, I see them multiple times each day now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEXX] StanleyHTweedle Players 179 posts 7,608 battles Report post #25 Posted October 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: I still think the bigger problem is teams where 8-10 people have terrible stats. Giving broadside to everything, yoloing one by one into the enemy flank for no reason, exploring map edges and playing the "let's find the most useless position for my BB humanly possible" minigame, etc. If my team loses because an enemy super unicum division played exceptionally well, fair enough. If my team loses because most of them have absolutely zero idea what they're doing, well, that can be infuriating. Besides, try running wows-monitor and you'll soon see the state of the player base yourself: quite often most players on both teams are red (terrible stats). I've ran it long enough to confidently say the vast majority of the player base is just plain bad. I don't think you can blame the game's problems on a few unicums when the sea of red (stats) spans for over 80% of the player base. It's gotten so bad I really doubt 48% is average anymore, because I'm sure seeing a whole lot of people at 45 or below, and while below 40 used to be a rare sight, I see them multiple times each day now. This is true. And pooling the whatsocalled unicum/hardcore players with casuals (like me) gets them discouraged from PvP. They simply are not coming back for more aft-smacking, yes-please. Imagine you got more wait time, and better teams in PvP, at the cost of not getting matched with the wretched reddies who will drop out of the game in a week or so anyway. Wouldn't that be just wonderful, eh? :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites