SmegTheNoob Players 376 posts 1,378 battles Report post #4626 Posted January 14 35 minutes ago, FellRaven said: I will start with Submarines are not balanced and should never have been introduced, that said. Having leveled up both the U-69 and the Cachalot I can not find anything that would recommend the Cachalot over the U-69 it doesn't seem to be better in any meaningful way. Thoughts anyone else who has played both. If you think Submarines are not balanced, why do you even play them? Myself, I know that Wargaming will NEVER be able to balance Submarines fairly. That is why they said years ago that they would not put Subs into the game. So they know they can't balance them. I will NEVER play them. The only way to get Wargaming to wake up and change the gameplay of Submarines, is to NOT play them. While players like you, think subs are not balanced, but continue to play them, Wargaming will think all is fine and never change them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #4627 Posted January 14 8 hours ago, SmegTheNoob said: The only way to get Wargaming to wake up and change the gameplay of Submarines, is to NOT play them. While players like you, think subs are not balanced, but continue to play them, Wargaming will think all is fine and never change them. The problem with that could be that they buff them like a MoFo, because nobody is playing them... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[C10C] Corocotta15 Players 256 posts 36,817 battles Report post #4628 Posted January 14 Worse and worse... Is not funny at all. And they destroy the sense of the game. Getting really tired of them, even if I kill them or whatever happen. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AFKRS] Star_Murasame Players 10 posts 12,954 battles Report post #4629 Posted January 15 Just asking here, since I don't recall it being like this in previous iterations, but were subs always able to spot planes at maximum depths? It seems a bit odd that they can spot planes while being undetectable by air. Or was this a recent feature? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuddly_Spider Players 401 posts 4,953 battles Report post #4630 Posted January 15 On 1/14/2023 at 11:07 AM, FellRaven said: I will start with Submarines are not balanced and should never have been introduced, that said. I disagree, but that's just me. On 1/14/2023 at 11:07 AM, FellRaven said: Having leveled up both the U-69 and the Cachalot I can not find anything that would recommend the Cachalot over the U-69 it doesn't seem to be better in any meaningful way. Thoughts anyone else who has played both. Cachalot has an extra rear torpedo tube. That's a huge deal on its tier - it makes the sub dangerous from both the front and the back. The U-69 is only really dangerous from a narrow cone from the front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmegTheNoob Players 376 posts 1,378 battles Report post #4631 Posted January 15 Right Wargaming. I want to know, HOW THE HELL AM I EXPECTED TO PLAY A RANDOM BATTLE IN A COLORADO, WITH 2 PATHETIC SUBMARINES ON EACH TEAM? WELL, WARGAMING, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I AM GOING TO DO. EVERY RANDOM BATTLE THAT I GET IN WITH 2 OR MORE SUBS ON BOTH TEAMS. I AM GOING TO JUST GO AFK, AND I DO NOT GIVE AN OUNCE OF T__S OF ANY PENALTY YOU WANT TO APPLY TO ME. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THIS GARBAGE WITH SUBMARINES. ITS JUST GREAT HOW SO WELL SUBMARINES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE PLAYER BASE, NOT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #4632 Posted January 15 17 minutes ago, SmegTheNoob said: Right Wargaming. I want to know, HOW THE HELL AM I EXPECTED TO PLAY A RANDOM BATTLE IN A COLORADO, WITH 2 PATHETIC SUBMARINES ON EACH TEAM? WELL, WARGAMING, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I AM GOING TO DO. EVERY RANDOM BATTLE THAT I GET IN WITH 2 OR MORE SUBS ON BOTH TEAMS. I AM GOING TO JUST GO AFK, AND I DO NOT GIVE AN OUNCE OF T__S OF ANY PENALTY YOU WANT TO APPLY TO ME. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THIS GARBAGE WITH SUBMARINES. ITS JUST GREAT HOW SO WELL SUBMARINES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE PLAYER BASE, NOT. There is answer but you will not like it - teampay.....shocker isn't it? 😀 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmegTheNoob Players 376 posts 1,378 battles Report post #4633 Posted January 15 Just now, WingedHussar_Adler said: There is answer but you will not like it - teampay.....shocker isn't it? 😀 Don't you mean simple manoeuvres? There's no such thing as teamplay in WoWS. I have had enough of this bul___t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #4634 Posted January 15 Just now, SmegTheNoob said: Don't you mean simple manoeuvres? There's no such thing as teamplay in WoWS. I have had enough of this bul___t. Join the game as a team.....really is funny how so many people won't recognize that wows is teamgame and not everything is equipped to fight everything 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmegTheNoob Players 376 posts 1,378 battles Report post #4635 Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: Join the game as a team.....really is funny how so many people won't recognize that wows is teamgame and not everything is equipped to fight everything I don't know anybody to division up with, and I have no interest in a random division. I want a Wargaming Developer to play some games in a slow BB. Get focused by 2 Subs, then come back and tell me they had a fun experience. Oh and as usual, both Subs were pinging and torping me from outside my ASW range. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pedro_McCloud Players 54 posts 5,293 battles Report post #4636 Posted January 15 10 minutes ago, SmegTheNoob said: Don't you mean simple manoeuvres? There's no such thing as teamplay in WoWS. I have had enough of this bul___t. Do you play as a team? Such as get involved in the chat and help locate enemy subs? I think you need to calm down. Nobody is forcing you to play this, after all. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #4637 Posted January 15 8 minutes ago, SmegTheNoob said: I don't know anybody to division up with, and I have no interest in a random division. I want a Wargaming Developer to play some games in a slow BB. Get focused by 2 Subs, then come back and tell me they had a fun experience. Oh and as usual, both Subs were pinging and torping me from outside my ASW range. Well than just die and cry on forum. But don't kidd yourself. Change subs to dds and still they would dominate you 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmegTheNoob Players 376 posts 1,378 battles Report post #4638 Posted January 15 15 minutes ago, Pedro_McCloud said: Do you play as a team? Such as get involved in the chat and help locate enemy subs? I think you need to calm down. Nobody is forcing you to play this, after all. I don't take any notice of players that hide their stats. If I want to rage on the forums, I will do so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmegTheNoob Players 376 posts 1,378 battles Report post #4639 Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: Well than just die and cry on forum. But don't kidd yourself. Change subs to dds and still they would dominate you At least you can effectively fight back against destroyers. You can spot and shoot them. That is not the case with stupid pathetic submarines. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #4640 Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, SmegTheNoob said: At least you can effectively fight back against destroyers. You can spot and shoot them. That is not the case with stupid pathetic submarines. How will you spot dd? Idiot in dd will just enter detections range? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLING] Cammo1962 [BLING] Players 2,468 posts 25,257 battles Report post #4641 Posted January 16 7 hours ago, Pedro_McCloud said: Do you play as a team? Such as get involved in the chat and help locate enemy subs? I think you need to calm down. Nobody is forcing you to play this, after all. Team in WoWs ?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DMP] Schelfie Players 552 posts 10,768 battles Report post #4642 Posted January 16 I just found out that the T5 Japanese cruiser Yahagi doesn't have ASW on it. How the hell am I supposed to fight them, WG? Using my force of will? Trowing bricks at it? In the end i just rammed it, but goddamn, i was about to smash through the PC screen... If those subs stays in the game, make sure we can fight it, goddamned... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pedro_McCloud Players 54 posts 5,293 battles Report post #4643 Posted January 16 15 hours ago, SmegTheNoob said: I don't take any notice of players that hide their stats. If I want to rage on the forums, I will do so. I really dont see why me hiding my stats have anything to do with you taking notice of me. Such an answer is simply ignorance. Well good luck, as someone who uses subs, you are prime prey for me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmegTheNoob Players 376 posts 1,378 battles Report post #4644 Posted January 16 19 minutes ago, Pedro_McCloud said: I really dont see why me hiding my stats have anything to do with you taking notice of me. Such an answer is simply ignorance. Well good luck, as someone who uses subs, you are prime prey for me. That is the reason. I am not interested in your win rate or any other stat. But I would have liked to see what ships you play the most. But as you have just told me you do play Subs, that is all the info I need. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #4645 Posted January 16 10 hours ago, Cammo1962 said: Team in WoWs ?? division is must have for this state of game and inflation of 44% bots who knows everthing and gladly posts on forum about balance, state of game, tactics...... and ruins others game ingame with thier patetic preformance 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melkador Players 13 posts 3,851 battles Report post #4646 Posted January 17 Any idea if I-56 and/or S-189 will be available in the Armory with the new (12.0) update coming this Thursday? Or we have to wait more?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #4647 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Melkador said: Any idea if I-56 and/or S-189 will be available in the Armory with the new (12.0) update coming this Thursday? Or we have to wait more?... Wait some more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DKMNL] CSS_modding_1 Players 362 posts Report post #4648 Posted January 17 subs shood be removed from this game my opinion thy ar anoing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] WingedHussar_Adler [FJAKA] Players 2,871 posts 16,103 battles Report post #4649 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, CSS_modding_1 said: subs shood be removed from this game my opinion thy ar anoing I am sure devs will now delete 2 existing sub lines and 2 in pipeline 😅🤣😂 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DKMNL] CSS_modding_1 Players 362 posts Report post #4650 Posted January 18 22 hours ago, WingedHussar_Adler said: I am sure devs will now delete 2 existing sub lines and 2 in pipeline 😅🤣😂 o and u think u are funny now i think not but again its my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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