General Submarines related discussions

[SkipperCH]

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[ghostbuster_]

Hey @YabbaCoe and @Seraphice, wanna make a comment about this laughable reaosning for the changes to hydrophone so that subs dont spot eachother accidentally?

Or are you going to do the classic WG staff move and play deaf after a nonsense is announced? 

 

Edit: so, typical WG staff behaviour it is. Not suprised at all. Its getting old 

[JohnMac79]

So when is WG removing smoke firing penalty and assured detectability through islands and in smokes? Sounds fair if subs are going to be given toddler training wheels does it not?

 

How dumb do you guys need to make subs, to get enough people playing them and declare subs a success?

 

CV and subs have ridiculous advantages just because you want X% of people playing them, its the dumbest balancing method i have ever seen in any game. Ever.

 

Introduce something terrible for the game - realise people think they are boring and lame - constantly buff until griefers match the arbitrary figure you have come up with - sell premiums. If only WG cared about the game more than a quick buck.

[togMOR]

Am 7.7.2022 um 11:06, ghostbuster_ sagte:

Did you guys see the new dev blog? 

 

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/340#:~:text=The settings for,Low Frequency Hydrophone.

 

"Due to the interaction patterns of the submarines, they often accidentally detect each other. This causes them to get caught in an air strike and also forces them to engage in a duel without being able to get out of it safely."

 

this reasoning... just mind blowing. "DDs has been detecting eachother "accidentally" since alpha. other class might also detect eachother "accidentally". but subs? noooo. nooo this shouldnt be the case. we gave them more HP than DDs and they have the french saturation and they are undetectable by other ships meaning they are able to get into complete safety but nooo we can not allow them to detect eachother "accidentally" noo this is very bad comrade nooo." 

Isn´t that the definition of "failed concept"?

 

;)

[Corpsetaker]

Hello,

 

When it comes to submarines Wargaming are a lot like Wylie E Coyote trying to catch the roadrunner. How many times must Wargaming fall off a cliff or blow themselves up before they realise maybe it's time to stop chasing the concept?

[deathsadow]

1 hour ago, Corpsetaker said:

Hello,

 

When it comes to submarines Wargaming are a lot like Wylie E Coyote trying to catch the roadrunner. How many times must Wargaming fall off a cliff or blow themselves up before they realise maybe it's time to stop chasing the concept?

Do you seriously think that WG will ever realise it before the game gets shut down ? Even if the game stays for 10+ more years WG will not realise their mistake of the CV rework or subs ... hell if the game would stay for a 100 year they still wouldnt figure it out.

[buttonF1]

Really Wtf again with this sub improvement if you give it to subs give it to DDs then 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

lol

 

this company and it's incompetent producers and designers never fail to dissapoint beyond the grave of their failed projects

 

so subs can now ram eachother wiothout ever seeing it coming or what?

[ghostbuster_]

34 minutes ago, Europizza said:

lol

 

this company and it's incompetent producers and designers never fail to dissapoint beyond the grave of their failed projects

 

so subs can now ram eachother wiothout ever seeing it coming or what?

Whaaaat did you lose your mind? WG shall do something to prevent them torping or damaging eachother accidentally. Come on now, you know this is the way to go. 

[lup3s]

Seeing how most play their Subs, these changes aren't that unexpected 

[Peffers]

2 hours ago, lup3s said:

Seeing how most play their Subs, these changes aren't that unexpected 

They will buff'd to they are so OP but nobody will notice because nobody plays.

[Eikkuu]

Le 22/10/2020 à 17:41, YabbaCoe a dit :

Commanders!

 

We would like to ask you to share your personal experience and feedback from Submarine Battles on TST server in this particular thread!

 

Please edit your messages, stay only on feedback and don't debate here. If you would like to debate about submarines, please do so in other threads.

Posts, that won't follow these rules will be hidden. 

 

Thanks for understanding and good luck in Submarine Battles!

 

 

Something l don't get it, why and how submarine can yolo a ship at like 2km and torp them and get out ?? Why the torps don't have like 5 or 6 km activation distance for the torps ? It's can be why more better to remove this yolo way like the slingshot for the CVs, because yolo sub is for sure not the submarine gameplay. 

[deathsadow]

21 hours ago, ghostbuster_ said:

Whaaaat did you lose your mind? WG shall do something to prevent them torping or damaging eachother accidentally. Come on now, you know this is the way to go. 

They fixed CVs accidentally killing each others bomber squads with the 2019 rework . They can do the same with the subs too.

[ImTryingButYouDontHelp]

On 7/8/2022 at 10:40 AM, ghostbuster_ said:

Hey @YabbaCoe and @Seraphice, wanna make a comment about this laughable reaosning for the changes to hydrophone so that subs dont spot eachother accidentally?

Or are you going to do the classic WG staff move and play deaf after a nonsense is announced? 

 

Edit: so, typical WG staff behaviour it is. Not suprised at all. Its getting old 

Seems that the idea of a "balanced" sub is making them stronger than the one in this video (46 torps hit, 274K damage), being even more OP. Pathetic how WG is ruining this game. Really pathetic.

 

 

[deathsadow]

On 7/9/2022 at 12:32 PM, ghostbuster_ said:

Whaaaat did you lose your mind? WG shall do something to prevent them torping or damaging eachother accidentally. Come on now, you know this is the way to go. 

Can we do something about BBs and Cruisers accidentally cittadelling each other, i feel like this is a serious issue for the avg wows player. I mean probably more player are getting accidentally citadelled, than the number of subs accidentally spotting the other sub.

 

Jokes aside, if a sub run into the other sub they should get each other spotted, just like if a IJN torp DD run into another torp DD ... those guys surely dont want to spot each other & get both of them gunned down by the oposing team, yet they still end up in that trouble .. so should submarines.... and also ASW has much less range than guns, the odds are that both sub will still get away if they want to with the old setup aswell.

[Darkeid]

WG decided to forcefully add new game mechanics in battles with the induction of submarines. By being able to use your brain and therefore this "mechanic" one is able to spot destroyers and presuming one knows how to use this mechanic can travel to 3km range and almost point blank range nuke any cruiser when the danger is over. 

What happens in reality is that most often the account trying to use these gaming mechanics has played a total of 54? battles leaving the team with said account at a permanent disadvantage.

[ghostbuster_]

Btw. Do you know how many dc hits I needed to sink a tier 8 sub with 8.4k hp in my tier 10 DD? 17... 17 hits...

[tom_kat]

I've done a poll about submarines.

 

The last question "do you think submarines are ready to get into the game with a full researchable branch" almost made me drown.

Seeing the polls done by some players and the results of around 80-85% of players that don't like this poorly design mess and the negative overall impact on the game... What do you expect?

We know, simply because the results of your polls are hidden, that you don't want to hear voices opposed to the path marked by your business design. Regardless of wheter que product's quality get worse and the community is unhappy with the changes and/or additions. Changes and/or additions that nobody asked for. 

 

So please, lets do this quick. Put that crap into the game and lets see how many of us are still here some moths after.

 

[tom_kat]

2 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said:

Btw. Do you know how many dc hits I needed to sink a tier 8 sub with 8.4k hp in my tier 10 DD? 17... 17 hits...

The other day, with my Lenin... 14 charges + 5 floods and 2 fires.

Very well designed, as always.

[ItsEyeJasper]

On 7/9/2022 at 11:56 AM, Europizza said:

lol

 

this company and it's incompetent producers and designers never fail to dissapoint beyond the grave of their failed projects

 

so subs can now ram eachother wiothout ever seeing it coming or what?

Funny Story - When I played Cold Waters. I actually rammed into another sub I basically sailed into his deck while we were both under water.  Worst part it was in the South China Sea. Anyone who has played that Game knows its not very deep there, best  part was his friendly Helicopter sank him with a torp.

 

Anyway back on topic. Have you seen the Results fro the WSC survey. 

These are the results for the Voting for the inclusion in WSC & Kots Style Tournaments. Safe to Say this is a Massive Failure on the Rework for CVs and introduction of Subs. As they will never be accepted into Tourney modes by the player base. Whats that saying about Flogging a dead horse. W.G needs to be honest with it's self and so a little respect for the player base.

 

Aircraft Carriers: 1.37 of 5
Submarines: 1.30 of 5
Superships: 1.70 of 5

[ghostbuster_]

43 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

Anyway back on topic. Have you seen the Results fro the WSC survey. 

These are the results for the Voting for the inclusion in WSC & Kots Style Tournaments. Safe to Say this is a Massive Failure on the Rework for CVs and introduction of Subs. As they will never be accepted into Tourney modes by the player base. Whats that saying about Flogging a dead horse. W.G needs to be honest with it's self and so a little respect for the player base.

 

Aircraft Carriers: 1.37 of 5
Submarines: 1.30 of 5
Superships: 1.70 of 5

Where did you get the results? can you please share a link?

[ItsEyeJasper]

5 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said:

Where did you get the results? can you please share a link?

You can find it on KOTS discord.  Unfortunately i cant invite anyone there

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[deathsadow]

9 hours ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

Funny Story - When I played Cold Waters. I actually rammed into another sub I basically sailed into his deck while we were both under water.  Worst part it was in the South China Sea. Anyone who has played that Game knows its not very deep there, best  part was his friendly Helicopter sank him with a torp.

 

Anyway back on topic. Have you seen the Results fro the WSC survey. 

These are the results for the Voting for the inclusion in WSC & Kots Style Tournaments. Safe to Say this is a Massive Failure on the Rework for CVs and introduction of Subs. As they will never be accepted into Tourney modes by the player base. Whats that saying about Flogging a dead horse. W.G needs to be honest with it's self and so a little respect for the player base.

 

Aircraft Carriers: 1.37 of 5
Submarines: 1.30 of 5
Superships: 1.70 of 5

Those are some awesome scores. Anyway we all know " its just a loud minority"  by WG standards. There is a HUGE hidden support for all 3 of them 

[Dutchy_2019]

I honestly wonder whether WG will ever post the results of the poll they dropped on us last week.

 

 

[deathsadow]

4 hours ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

I honestly wonder whether WG will ever post the results of the poll they dropped on us last week.

 

 

No they wont, it would show that everyone with a few exception hate subs, so it wouldnt fit to their lies.

 

I would so love to have a forum thread where we can name and shame submarine players , anyone supporting that class is an enemy of the community & should be punished for their crimes against WoWs.