CV nerf - wow that hammer went pretty steep

[MacD3rpington]

CVs are over, I guess they only want 13km 90 knot DDs and backline sniper BBs in the game. CV role was to go after DDs and help scouting, but now the only option is to use a Richthofen and AP citadel the living thing out of BBs. 

I just don't get it.

[ColonelPete]

Please talk about something that makes sense and not your fantasies.

[El2aZeR]

[MacD3rpington]

7 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Please talk about something that makes sense and not your fantasies.

When was the last time you played a CV?

Like T10?

The rocket plane aiming and firing is messed up, with a horrible lag, even T8 ships shred all the planes and almost all planes are lost post the 1st strike.

Torpedo reticle and aim is messed up too, again post strike planes get 100% damage after the strike, not just the striking planes the rest of them too.

Bombers are ok, the reticle got smaller and has a weird glitch in the dive, so the only CV left to play is the Richthofen with those horribly overpowered AP bombs, which are just stupid. They can delete a T8 BB from full health in 3 strikes. 

[ColonelPete]

8 minutes ago, MacD3rpington said:

When was the last time you played a CV?

Like T10?

The rocket plane aiming and firing is messed up, with a horrible lag, even T8 ships shred all the planes and almost all planes are lost post the 1st strike.

Torpedo reticle and aim is messed up too, again post strike planes get 100% damage after the strike, not just the striking planes the rest of them too.

Bombers are ok, the reticle got smaller and has a weird glitch in the dive, so the only CV left to play is the Richthofen with those horribly overpowered AP bombs, which are just stupid. They can delete a T8 BB from full health in 3 strikes. 

My clanmate just told me an hour ago that he averages around 130k in Clan Battles...

And I see enough CV in game, from all nations, that finish over 2k Base XP in random...

 

When you have technical difficulties with lag, then this has nothing to do with the general gameplay. That is a personal problem.

[Eikkuu]

Il y a 35 minutes, MacD3rpington a dit :

CVs are over, I guess they only want 13km 90 knot DDs and backline sniper BBs in the game. CV role was to go after DDs and help scouting, but now the only option is to use a Richthofen and AP citadel the living thing out of BBs. 

I just don't get it.

Play with ennemies DCP.
Contest the bases.
Don't chase DD all the game.
Attack alone ennemies ships.
Use your fighters as a spotters.
Come closer as you can with your CV.
Use isles to attack and heal your planes.
Help your DDs to cap.
Use the correct planes against the ship class.
Spot the ennemies ships in early game for see and adapt your gameplay. 
Help your mates with fighters for anti AA zone.
And more...

There a lot of tips for step up with CV.
 

[Wizard27_1979]

48 minutes ago, MacD3rpington said:

CVs are over, I guess they only want 13km 90 knot DDs and backline sniper BBs in the game. CV role was to go after DDs and help scouting, but now the only option is to use a Richthofen and AP citadel the living thing out of BBs. 

I just don't get it.

How can we help you? Obviously you do lack knowledge/understandings of how this game works and mechanics. 

[lossi_2018]

You will not find any help here or sympathy, this is an anti CV place sometimes justifiably other times not. If it is any consolation the constant nerfs are getting on many captains nerves and it is visible in the games.

[Jethro_Grey]

1 hour ago, MacD3rpington said:

CVs are over, I guess they only want 13km 90 knot DDs and backline sniper BBs in the game. CV role was to go after DDs and help scouting, but now the only option is to use a Richthofen and AP citadel the living thing out of BBs. 

I just don't get it.

Well, this below sums it up...

1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

...because...

1 hour ago, MacD3rpington said:

When was the last time you played a CV?

Like T10?

The rocket plane aiming and firing is messed up, with a horrible lag, even T8 ships shred all the planes and almost all planes are lost post the 1st strike.

Torpedo reticle and aim is messed up too, again post strike planes get 100% damage after the strike, not just the striking planes the rest of them too.

Bombers are ok, the reticle got smaller and has a weird glitch in the dive, so the only CV left to play is the Richthofen with those horribly overpowered AP bombs, which are just stupid. They can delete a T8 BB from full health in 3 strikes. 

...you seem to have a massive derp moment here, MacD3rpington... CV nerf...hahahahahaha...

 

You're on point about the MvR tho.

[MacD3rpington]

Thanks, I'm pretty much aware of all the game mechanics, but did any of you played a CV in T10 lately? Not just heard of and I know a guy.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, MacD3rpington said:

Thanks, I'm pretty much aware of all the game mechanics, but did any of you played a CV in T10 lately? Not just heard of and I know a guy.

I play t10 CV in CBs and I can tell you (Hakuryu) is absurdly powerful and certainly doesn't feel like it got nerfed. 

[MacD3rpington]

35 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

You will not find any help here or sympathy, this is an anti CV place sometimes justifiably other times not. If it is any consolation the constant nerfs are getting on many captains nerves and it is visible in the games.

I would like this game to be balanced, CVs have a role, strictly support role, but if the team is right and the captain has map awareness and skills can help it's team a lot.

There are a lot of salty DD players who loved going stealth to torp the living hell out of BBs and BBs hate those Richthofen APs. No wonder. I just don't get it why do WG thinks butchering a class is a good idea.

[Jethro_Grey]

3 minutes ago, MacD3rpington said:

Thanks, I'm pretty much aware of all the game mechanics, but did any of you played a CV in T10 lately? Not just heard of and I know a guy.

Yes, Hakuryu, Midway and MvR in ranked and the former two in randoms because I am grinding the legendary modules for them.

[MacD3rpington]

3 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

I play t10 CV in CBs and I can tell you (Hakuryu) is absurdly powerful and certainly doesn't feel like it got nerfed. 

I don't have the Haka, maybe having all those spare planes mitigates the altered damage.

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just now, MacD3rpington said:

I don't have the Haka, maybe having all those spare planes mitigates the altered damage.

 

No. Its not about spare planes or whatever. You have to use planes correctly, disengage with them correctly, strike the right targets. 

 

Just because CVs are OP doesn't mean you can fly in and expect to crap on everyone. You have to play it well. Don't go around calling stuff weak or difficult to use just be because you can't do it. 

 

[iFax]

Has anyone seen the Git Gud meme? I've lost mine...

[ForlornSailor]

32 minutes ago, MacD3rpington said:

Thanks, I'm pretty much aware of all the game mechanics

 

Its 100% obvious you actually are not.

Have you, at some point, concidered, that its actually an issue with your performance? With you not knowing how to play the class? Do you think, your Performance in a T10 CV is "CV peak" so to speak, which puts you in a position to make statements like these:

 

2 hours ago, MacD3rpington said:

CVs are over

 

2 hours ago, MacD3rpington said:

T8 ships shred all the planes

 

Have you ever concidered learning the game from scratch? That playing on T10 requires a certain skill set to be in place, so that you know, how exactly to do what? Or do you think, that once reaching T10, you have access to the best ship and you have a right to play that & should automatically outperform everything just simply because it says "T10"? Because it looks awefully like it:

 

 

[lovelacebeer]

27 minutes ago, iFax said:

Has anyone seen the Git Gud meme? I've lost mine...

 

As requested 

[lossi_2018]

35 minutes ago, MacD3rpington said:

I don't have the Haka, maybe having all those spare planes mitigates the altered damage.

 

Haku attack planes and booms got messed up heavily. It's not so much a balance imo, moreso just WG switching stuff constantly trying to throw captains off and make it artificially difficult to have fun. It did it with DDs removing their fun, likewise wit some cruisers and now heavily wit the CVs. If you know what you are doing it is basically the same thing just with more clicks and annoying. It is becoming too boring and bothersome and most older captains notice it. Not all speak out, mostly because the majority I believe (myself also) just love ships irl too much :)

[DFens_666]

1 hour ago, lossi_2018 said:

You will not find any help here or sympathy, this is an anti CV place sometimes justifiably other times not. If it is any consolation the constant nerfs are getting on many captains nerves and it is visible in the games.

 

Well, people could just ask for help? Instead (most of the time), they come in and proclaim how something is broken and underpowered, while they have actually no clue how its supposed to work.

Imagine someone would open a thread here, how underpowered Stalingrad is... he would get blasted back to T1

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

42 minutes ago, MacD3rpington said:

I would like this game to be balanced, CVs have a role, strictly support role, but if the team is right and the captain has map awareness and skills can help it's team a lot.

There are a lot of salty DD players who loved going stealth to torp the living hell out of BBs and BBs hate those Richthofen APs. No wonder. I just don't get it why do WG thinks butchering a class is a good idea.

You obviously weren't here around the 0.8.0 update I guess. Since 0.8.0 almost all carriers play a solo game in a PVP enviroment. 

[Pururut]

I didnt notice anything any serious nerf besides the one involving Tiny Tims. It was my dirty pleasure to nuke those poor tier 6 battleships for 10k damage twice in Lexington but the revised aim circle just doesn't work with so few rockets going everywhere from superstructure to belt armor. Grudgingly switched back to HVAR for the time being. 

[Eikkuu]

Il y a 19 minutes, Pururut a dit :

I didnt notice anything any serious nerf besides the one involving Tiny Tims. It was my dirty pleasure to nuke those poor tier 6 battleships for 10k damage twice in Lexington but the revised aim circle just doesn't work with so few rockets going everywhere from superstructure to belt armor. Grudgingly switched back to HVAR for the time being. 

 

With some good RNG TT are still good.

[albin322]

3 hours ago, MacD3rpington said:

CVs are over, I guess they only want 13km 90 knot DDs and backline sniper BBs in the game. CV role was to go after DDs and help scouting, but now the only option is to use a Richthofen and AP citadel the living thing out of BBs. 

I just don't get it.

i am not stat shameing you nor do i want to be mean. but meaby you should have the insight to know that you are not a good player. and meaby you should learn a bit more before you make these ridiculous posts. 

 

https://wows-numbers.com/player/500328201,MacD3rpington/

here are your stats check them yourself then you go to youtube and see how you are supposed to play the ships. 

[Dominik_Tirpitz]

4 minutes ago, MyAngelAkagi said:

With some good RNG TT are still good.

HVAR hit more consistently in my opinion. They're pretty ok on Lexingtion but kinda meh on Midway. Shokaku rockets feel really nasty after the rocket nerf.

 

 

It seems like there are bigger plane losses after attacks, the "safe height" is higher than it was, but it's still ok

OP needs to play some T6 CV to learn managing plane reserves correctly (especially as low-tier); looks like a classic example of rushing through tiers and not learning anything, then getting farmed in hightier

And: CV role is not always to go after DDs (that's what potatoes on your team think), you go after strategically important targets. It can be a DD, a Radar-CA or even a pushing BB, don't go after the map edge campers, unless the game is already won