Gift Crate/Black ship frustation and anger

[Rigg3r]

I just got my KOTS conatiner which gifted me a Scharnhorst, which would be very nice if I didn't already have a Scharnhorst B in my port.

 

1. I am frustrated because it is identical in every way apart from cosmetically, it does exactly what the B does so i'll never use it.

2. I can't sell it for silver in case i get it gifted again in a future gift crate.

3. I can't gift it to smeone who doesn't have one.

 

I know it's technically free but I spent my time grinding for the crate, and my time isn't free.  I could have done a couple hours overtime at work and just bought what I wanted. I'm annoyed that I have had a carrot dangled under my nose that has yielded nothing I don't alredy have.

 

I could have gifted that to some kid or person who's poor, but instead it's just going to sit in my port doing nothing.

 

Can't you dev's look at a way of turning copy ships into dubloons?

 

I just can't get my head around having two ships that are the same, utterly useless.

 

 

[PeteEarthling]

10 minutes ago, Rigg3r said:

I just can't get my head around having two ships that are the same, utterly useless.

That is not entirely true, at least not for me. I have the Atago and the Atago B, for example. I use them as (re)trainers for my IJN captains. Having that ship twice enables me to jump into the next game when one gets sunk without loosing time to wait for it to become available again. It saves a lot of time.

[Jvd2000]

Thats the risk of Black ships.. most of the time you can get them slightly cheaper then their normal counterparts. The droprates in their "black loot crates" are rather good. And compared to their "regular ocunterparts"the droprate is better since their are now low tier ships in the loot pool.

 

So all that discount comes at a prize...you get ships that are like their regular counterparts but...unlike them they do not clear the chance that you wont get the equivalent normal ship the next time you are to receive a SC or a premium loot crate.

 

I have 90% of al premiums, none are black.  I would be extremely upset if WG decided to include Black ships into the regular loot pool of the game. If you buy the Black ships you get a discount but have the risk that you end up with the regular ship. If you buy regular, you wont get a black ship unwanted.

 

 

So buy regular ship, no risk of ever getting the Black duplicate (as long if you stay away from black lootboxes etc) , buy a Black ship, RNG can screw you by giving you the regular.

[SkollUlfr]

run distinct skill and module builds on each?

[dommo77]

During Summer Sale I got both Zeppelins, one is specced for standard air operations, the other will be (when I have enough silver) secondary build. Maybe do the same and spec one for secondaries and the other tank build? 

[fleshcat]

1 hour ago, PeteEarthling said:

That is not entirely true, at least not for me. I have the Atago and the Atago B, for example. I use them as (re)trainers for my IJN captains. Having that ship twice enables me to jump into the next game when one gets sunk without loosing time to wait for it to become available again. It saves a lot of time.

Saves a lot of time?

sounds like you die in the first 3 min and come out to port for the second game

[principat121]

Please Wargaming! Stop giving away free stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fumtu]

1 hour ago, PeteEarthling said:

That is not entirely true, at least not for me. I have the Atago and the Atago B, for example. I use them as (re)trainers for my IJN captains. Having that ship twice enables me to jump into the next game when one gets sunk without loosing time to wait for it to become available again. It saves a lot of time.

 

How can you (re)train captain if he get stuck in the first ship until the game is over?

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Rigg3r said:

I know it's technically free but I spent my time grinding for the crate, and my time isn't free.  I could have done a couple hours overtime at work and just bought what I wanted. I'm annoyed that I have had a carrot dangled under my nose that has yielded nothing I don't alredy have.

The SAME applies to ANY other ship that could have dropped.

When you prefer to work overtime to earn the money to buy ships, instead of playing the game, then do THAT!

 

No point to whine when a RANDOM drop is RANDOM and you do not like the results.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

18 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

No point to whine when a RANDOM drop is RANDOM and you do not like the results.

Since the dawn of time, human beings have been moaning about their bad luck.

 

Not even a powerful advocate such as yourself will ever stop them doing it.

 

Some people think that having a moan about their bad luck acts as a safety valve to blow off steam and vent their frustration. There may be a grain of truth in this.

[gabberworld]

22 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

When you prefer to work overtime to earn the money to buy ships

 

 

im old enoh to know that they are not ships but just a 3d objects

[hypsar]

imagine when lesta implements red versions of every ship to be sold on old soviet/current russia holidays. next will come rainbow's to support gay's in russia, endless opportunities ...

[invicta2012]

1 hour ago, hypsar said:

next will come rainbow's to support gay's in russia

Bring it on. 

[Verblonde]

2 hours ago, hypsar said:

next will come rainbow's to support gay's in russia

I'd buy that...

[Verblonde]

4 hours ago, Rigg3r said:

I just can't get my head around having two ships that are the same, utterly useless.

It's very helpful for Narai - Scharn is one of the best picks for the Op, and having both versions saves a lot of waiting around (if you don't want to spend the silver to play again right away)...

[Butterdoll]

raging about getting a premium ship for free

OP, you take the cake for the most moronic spoiled thread of the year.

 

Thanks to you and people like you , WG don't gives a crap about our feedbacks... i wouldn't either.

 

if you don't like it, sell it, and if  you win it again...well, sell it again.

 

Thanks you, thanks to threads like this we are not taken seriously...How could they?

 

 

 

[hypsar]

25 minutes ago, Butterdoll said:

raging about getting a premium ship for free

OP, you take the cake for the most moronic spoiled thread of the year.

 

Thanks to you and people like you , WG don't gives a crap about our feedbacks... i wouldn't either.

 

if you don't like it, sell it, and if  you win it again...well, sell it again.

 

Thanks you, thanks to threads like this we are not taken seriously...How could they?

 

 

 

so, what is the deep point of having 2 similar ships B and non B? rest of your claims are just absurd and without proof ...

[300ConfirmedKills]

What's so hard to understand about the OP's complaint? If he had bought any T7 ship other than one of the few with a B version, he'd either have a new T7 prem or a decent chunk of doubloons. Simply because he had the misfortune to buy a ship that WG released a palette swap of later, the reward he got from the T7 ship container was worth a lot less than he otherwise would've gotten. Any minor profit from having two identical ships would have been greater if he had two distinct ships.

[Captain_Newman]

It's pretty stupid that the black friday ships are actually separate ships and not just permacamos. But we all know why they do it, it increases the likelyhood of a bad (duplicate) drop from lootboxes, so the hope you'll buy more to get the ship you actually want.

[Butterdoll]

1 hour ago, hypsar said:

so, what is the deep point of having 2 similar ships B and non B? rest of your claims are just absurd and without proof ...

came on, winning for wining a premium ship for free, that's completely absurd, we reached a point where we moan about everything, even when there's nothing to moan for.

the deep point of having two similar ships? Who cares.

The guy didn't want the ship, he didn't spent anything on the ship, he won the ship...for free.

basically his complaining about the teeth of a given horse.

if he had won a couple of signals instead, this [edited] of a topic would never existed in the first place...or worst, it would go something like this.

Why  didn't I get a premium ship? and so on.

I've seen topics where people are trying to guess with excel sheets and whatnot the probability of a premium ship drop.

This guy receives one, whatever way you cut it, he will always  come up on top with whatever he decides to do with it...

...and what's the first thing he does?

Complaining...FFS.

 

Indeed, this is a case of  

We can't please Greeks and Trojans  (a saying in my country)

or

Getting arrested for hunting with a dog or for  hunting without a dog  (another saying)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PeteEarthling]

6 hours ago, fleshcat said:

Saves a lot of time?

sounds like you die in the first 3 min and come out to port for the second game

As I am playing coop only, games rarely last longer than 5 minutes, and of course I yolo like hell to get any damage done before all the DDs steal the prey. Getting sunk fast - in many cases by your careless allies - is a calculated part of the business. So yes, it does save a lot of time because those extra minutes do accumulate.

[PeteEarthling]

 

6 hours ago, fumtu said:

How can you (re)train captain if he get stuck in the first ship until the game is over?

I wrote captains. Plural. Multiple. 

[300ConfirmedKills]

Vor 2 Stunden, Butterdoll sagte:

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if he had won a couple of signals instead, this [edited] of a topic would never existed in the first place...or worst, it would go something like this.

Why  didn't I get a premium ship? and so on.

I've seen topics where people are trying to guess with excel sheets and whatnot the probability of a premium ship drop.

This guy receives one, whatever way you cut it, he will always  come up on top with whatever he decides to do with it...

...and what's the first thing he does?

Complaining...FFS.

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I think a ticket to support would be in order if he had somehow received signals from the container he opened. There's no positive way to slice this: anyone who received a palette swap of a ship they already had, like OP did, is worse off than everyone else who opened this container.

[lafeel]

19 minutes ago, 300ConfirmedKills said:

I think a ticket to support would be in order if he had somehow received signals from the container he opened. There's no positive way to slice this: anyone who received a palette swap of a ship they already had, like OP did, is worse off than everyone else who opened this container.

I suspect that most people that got a Cali out of a one would disagree with you seeing as Scharnhorst is clearly the superior ship, and a colour palette isn't going to change this.

[invicta2012]

8 hours ago, Captain_Newman said:

It's pretty stupid that the black friday ships are actually separate ships and not just permacamos. But we all know why they do it, it increases the likelyhood of a bad (duplicate) drop from lootboxes, so the hope you'll buy more to get the ship you actually want

...and you can't even buy a proper permacamo for the black ships if you don't like the goth aesthetic. I do have some sympathy for WG here, it is difficult to know what players would want. Some collectors might enjoy having both A and B versions of a ship, others (me) would prefer not to get duplicates and would rather have doubloon compensation or permacamo tokens instead. But the confusion is there , and It means that overall I'm not buying general lootboxes anymore - any money I do spend goes into upfront cash shop purchase or doubloons for specific things.