King OF THE SEA EU is getting crushed

[Puffin_]

But there is still hope

[Logan_MountStuart]

Too static and campy, NA doing the same, and the other 2 regions have been dynamic, aggressive and knew what WASD keys do!

It's indirectly not a great advert for banning CVs from Clan Battles, at least CVs encourage movement and not island humping.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

3 minutes ago, Logan_MountStuart said:

Too static and campy, NA doing the same, and the other 2 regions have been dynamic, aggressive and knew what WASD keys do!

It's indirectly not a great advert for banning CVs from Clan Battles, at least CVs encourage movement and not island humping.

You better prepare a Kevlar reinforced, composite armored Hazmat suit against the coming onslaught. 

[SkollUlfr]

cis, cloud... god damn droids on bespin

[Kathapalt]

55 minutes ago, Logan_MountStuart said:

Too static and campy, NA doing the same, and the other 2 regions have been dynamic, aggressive and knew what WASD keys do!

It's indirectly not a great advert for banning CVs from Clan Battles, at least CVs encourage movement and not island humping.

I think its another way around if aggressive and dynamic game play wins = cv:a don't prevent camping .

Would be worried if  campy style wins= need something to prevent camping

[Logan_MountStuart]

13 minutes ago, Kathapalt said:

I think its another way around if aggressive and dynamic game play wins = cv:a don't prevent camping .

Would be worried if  campy style wins= need something to prevent camping

My point was just that so many are just sitting in Petros, next to islands and are being outflanked repeatedly by mobility and aggression. 

CV presence, particularly MvR, punishes that static type of play and without CV in high level CB the lack of movement is obviously not being punished and it's crept into this KOTS where SEA 3rd team have just mopped up NA 1st.

[lafeel]

EU and NA need to go back to the old drawing board when it comes to strats. It's as simple at that.

 

Vor made some nearly game losing mistakes themselves that last game though, it must be said. It should never have been as close as it ended up being.

[Puffin_]

Nobody is talking about Russian bias now 

[Kathapalt]

13 minutes ago, Logan_MountStuart said:

My point was just that so many are just sitting in Petros, next to islands and are being outflanked repeatedly by mobility and aggression. 

CV presence, particularly MvR, punishes that static type of play and without CV in high level CB the lack of movement is obviously not being punished and it's crept into this KOTS where SEA 3rd team have just mopped up NA 1st.

Good point, however I think its more of the problem of petros balance, no need to introduce CV for one ship=) 

I would solve the situation by giving only one ship of the same name per team, as with some other competitive games .

 

[lafeel]

2 minutes ago, Kathapalt said:

Good point, however I think its more of the problem of petros balance, no need to introduce CV for one ship=) 

I would solve the situation by giving only one ship of the same name per team, as with some other competitive games .

 

That might work. Only time will tell if it does though..

[ForlornSailor]

1 hour ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

You better prepare a Kevlar reinforced, composite armored Hazmat suit against the coming onslaught. 

 

Guys! Two CV lovers spotted!! GET EM !!

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bois? where are ya?

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damn. everyone tugged behind some island, staying safe -_-

[Allied_Winter]

As someone not familiar with comp at all: What's the implication behind EU (and apparently NA what I got from reddit) "getting crushed"? Someone kind enough to explain?

[ForlornSailor]

Just now, Allied_Winter said:

As someone not familiar with comp at all: What's the implication behind EU (and apparently NA what I got from reddit) "getting crushed"? Someone kind enough to explain?

 

Games were pretty clear victories for the other 2 servers. Essentially the NA teams had problems to play for the objectives, while especially the russian teams totally surprised the other teams with their super aggressive strategies (living up to the meme I guess).

[lafeel]

1 minute ago, Allied_Winter said:

As someone not familiar with comp at all: What's the implication behind EU (and apparently NA what I got from reddit) "getting crushed"? Someone kind enough to explain?

TL:DR they are playing too passive, essentially.

[Allied_Winter]

Thanks. Ok, so basically just not fitting strategies (and should've no bearing on any ships balance for the future). Ok, then I'm done here 

[Miragetank90]

4 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

Games were pretty clear victories for the other 2 servers. Essentially the NA teams had problems to play for the objectives, while especially the russian teams totally surprised the other teams with their super aggressive strategies (living up to the meme I guess).

 

CIS teams almost always playing quite aggressively though, tbh it's not that surprising. 

[lafeel]

4 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said:

Thanks. Ok, so basically just not fitting strategies (and should've no bearing on any ships balance for the future). Ok, then I'm done here 

Well to be fair, their team lay outs also affect their strategies, like o7 only having one DD in the final game against vor and losing it early.

 

Surprise surprise, it was a major factor in them losing the game.

[Logan_MountStuart]

26 minutes ago, Kathapalt said:

Good point, however I think its more of the problem of petros balance, no need to introduce CV for one ship=) 

I would solve the situation by giving only one ship of the same name per team, as with some other competitive games .

 

I know where you are coming from and I used Petro as the supreme example, but BANCV have just been routed in the first match against a SEA team and it was purely because one team moved and the other didn't.

Whether they play with CVs or not, it's been an embarrassingly insipid display for us so far and all due to the meta rather than ability.

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 52 Minuten, Logan_MountStuart sagte:

My point was just that so many are just sitting in Petros, next to islands and are being outflanked repeatedly by mobility and aggression. 

Which is kind of funny, cause I remember watching a NA server video back from S9 where one of the better NA clans ran a counter venezia strategy that basically came down somers+leg mod mino + DM pushing the side where the enemy put their venezias. Pretty sure they ran that one for more than the one game featured on YT. So crawling smoke that hide DM strats shouldn't be unknown to NA top tier Clans. 

 

And if you take a look at the first repoi vs ap game that's similar to the Somers +leg mod Harugumo + DM strat Repoi ran. 

[_HomTanks_]

#GOEU after all.

[_HomTanks_]

BANCV wins! 

[Kartoffelmos]

The only real upset was JUNK losing their games though, so I wouldn't call it "EU getting crushed". NA on the other hand... 

[Puffin_]

[LemonadeWarriorITA]

1 hour ago, Logan_MountStuart said:

My point was just that so many are just sitting in Petros, next to islands and are being outflanked repeatedly by mobility and aggression. 

CV presence, particularly MvR, punishes that static type of play and without CV in high level CB the lack of movement is obviously not being punished and it's crept into this KOTS where SEA 3rd team have just mopped up NA 1st.

Fixed it. You are welcome :)

[Yedwy]

Good maybe this finally beats some sense into the "muh gotta camp ftw" swamp we have here...