[THROW] Ydoum Players 195 posts 12,595 battles Report post #1 Posted October 7, 2020 I honestly cannot understand who designed this god-awful patcher. Better yet: who approved it. Downloading at 20mbps, I am into my 2nd hour into downloading and installing a 7GB patch. In comparison, a massive 20GB patch for another game took me 30 minutes to download AND INSTALL. How badly has this thing been coded? Why on Earth is the client stopping the download to install and verify crap every now and then? You guys need to get your sh*t together. Your client is a complete mess. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,326 battles Report post #2 Posted October 7, 2020 It took my rig almost 2 hours to patch the game this week. And I'm running a good setup that's less than 1 year old. The whole client is garbage. Before I had my patches installed in 20 minutes tops. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #3 Posted October 7, 2020 Try limiting the UL speed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #4 Posted October 7, 2020 The whole thing is quite primative to say the least, wondering if WG is using some left over Sputnik Tech maybe or a little bit of Bletchleys old kit? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #5 Posted October 7, 2020 Meanwhile, at WG's servers... 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #6 Posted October 8, 2020 Actually yeah, it's not only downloading it that is bad, but the install process takes ages. What's up with that? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,373 battles Report post #7 Posted October 8, 2020 Also the way the patch system is set up currently errors creep in to the patch - currently still waiting for support to sort out the mess from the current patch as the same thing has happened this update as during the last update. Adter update 0.9.8.0 I ended up having to uninstall the entire game, remove the game directory and reinstall from scratch (10 wasted hours), now they are saying that there are missing and corrupted files again, I have explained to them that this was a complete reinstall in a fresh directory from update 09.8.0 and therfore the only place that the missing and corrupted files can come from is there download process 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #8 Posted October 8, 2020 Compression of download files so weegee can save on bandwidth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #9 Posted October 8, 2020 If you are talking about 0.9.9.1 patch it was downloaded and installed in less than 5 minutes on my side. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,373 battles Report post #10 Posted October 8, 2020 No, I think we are talking about patches 0.9.8.0 and 0.9.9.0 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,856 battles Report post #11 Posted October 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said: If you are talking about 0.9.9.1 patch it was downloaded and installed in less than 5 minutes on my side. Classic IT advice fail. Just because you didn't have a problem doesn't mean no-one else can. After all, you're not using their PC, are you? In reference to the OP, as I understand it the whole patch system is peer-to-peer so getting behind on patches will probably lead to slow download times (as a result of there being fewer locations available to download it from). And as for the install times... your guess is as good as mine. They are quite slow, though. I did read a comment from a WG staffer who said that the size of patches was increasing because they now had all regional clients in the one game install. That might be increasing the number of items being installed in each major update. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #12 Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, invicta2012 said: Classic IT advice fail. Just because you didn't have a problem doesn't mean no-one else can. After all, you're not using their PC, are you? In reference to the OP, as I understand it the whole patch system is peer-to-peer so getting behind on patches will probably lead to slow download times (as a result of there being fewer locations available to download it from). And as for the install times... your guess is as good as mine. They are quite slow, though. I did read a comment from a WG staffer who said that the size of patches was increasing because they now had all regional clients in the one game install. That might be increasing the number of items being installed in each major update. You are way too aggressive...I didn’t give advice but only informed what happened on my side. Behave. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Gebe_ Players 360 posts 12,280 battles Report post #13 Posted October 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Classic IT advice fail. Just because you didn't have a problem doesn't mean no-one else can. The only one failing here is you, tone down your aggression please. There was no advice given, only a data point from another user. More data points is good. Now we know that at least some people somehow managed to get it installed quickly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aschwell Players 353 posts 9,681 battles Report post #14 Posted October 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, Gebe_ said: The only one failing here is you, tone down your aggression please. There was no advice given, only a data point from another user. More data points is good. Now we know that at least some people somehow managed to get it installed quickly. I never even hinted any instance of aggression in what this guy wrote.... Typical I am oversensitive woke guy that needs a safe space corner Download does take more time than it used too do, but the verifying and installing process is "slow motion" at best. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #15 Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Aschwell said: I never even hinted any instance of aggression in what this guy wrote.... Typical I am oversensitive woke guy that needs a safe space corner Excellent way of toning it down and proving your non-aggressive tone. 11/10 hint for future reference: after calling someone’s post a classic fail, claiming there wasn’t a hint of aggression afterwards while actually posting aggressive remarks doesn’t work as well as you think it does. Carry on. Calmly, please. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AFKRS] Yxkraft [AFKRS] Players 332 posts 23,198 battles Report post #16 Posted October 8, 2020 6 hours ago, pzkpfwv1d said: Also the way the patch system is set up currently errors creep in to the patch - currently still waiting for support to sort out the mess from the current patch as the same thing has happened this update as during the last update. Adter update 0.9.8.0 I ended up having to uninstall the entire game, remove the game directory and reinstall from scratch (10 wasted hours), now they are saying that there are missing and corrupted files again, I have explained to them that this was a complete reinstall in a fresh directory from update 09.8.0 and therfore the only place that the missing and corrupted files can come from is there download process Your system is unstable, you have most likely a defective cpu or defective main memory. You can use memtest86 to check your CPU and memory. Your hard drive could also be the cause, but defective hard drives tend to fail mechanically. If you have an SSD you might have gotten "bit rot" since an SSD has a finite lifetime depending on the type of flash memory used. The flash memory in an SSD can have several states, the most durable and long lasting is the single bit flash that is either 0 or 1 (SLC flash) This is also the most expensive since you need 1 cell to store 1 bit. The second most durable is those that store two bits ( 00, 01, 10, 11) . MLC flash. This flash memory has 4 states, cheapass SSDs use tri-bit flash memory (TLC flash) that stores three bits and wears down quicly. Flash memory is destroyed by a kind of electric erosion when you write to the memory cell, but you can read from a cell infinite times without destroying it. Single bit flash memory may survive 100K writes, two bit flash memory does 10K but tri bit flash memory only does 1K writes before the cell has eroded so much that you get bit errors. The flash drives used in data centers are all single bit SLC , the cheapass consumer grade crap is TLC with a MLC cache because it gives the lowers cost per megabytes and consumers do not care about durability only price per megabyte. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aschwell Players 353 posts 9,681 battles Report post #17 Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Captain_Newman said: Excellent way of toning it down and proving your non-aggressive tone. 11/10 hint for future reference: after calling someone’s post a classic fail, claiming there wasn’t a hint of aggression afterwards while actually posting aggressive remarks doesn’t work as well as you think it does. Carry on. Calmly, please. Not trying to tone down anything. I don´t see aggression in what he wrote others perhaps do. It´s a matter of life experience and perception since writing something without the opposite to see your body language is a big difference. I see though that in today´s society and especially on the ethernet people seem to take offense over minor things when there shouldn´t be need for that. I agree with not having to confront people head on when disagreeing on matters but sometime it can be good not taking everything literarly or personally! OP clearly felt that the response about 5 min was undermining his own problems and of others otherwise the counter reaction would not have followed. I have the same issue with the new patches so I understand that point of view and frustration. Same as others that might only need 5 min ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #18 Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Aschwell said: Not trying to tone down anything. I don´t see aggression in what he wrote others perhaps do. It´s a matter of life experience and perception since writing something without the opposite to see your body language is a big difference. I see though that in today´s society and especially on the ethernet people seem to take offense over minor things when there shouldn´t be need for that. I agree with not having to confront people head on when disagreeing on matters but sometime it can be good not taking everything literarly or personally! OP clearly felt that the response about 5 min was undermining his own problems and of others otherwise the counter reaction would not have followed. I have the same issue with the new patches so I understand that point of view and frustration. Same as others that might only need 5 min ;) Aschwell, come on now OP complained about the patch taking too long to download. I wrote my experience (obviously from data point of view as Gebe stated). Out of the blue i got accused of giving false advices to OP's post. Do you see any advice in my post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aschwell Players 353 posts 9,681 battles Report post #19 Posted October 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said: Aschwell, come on now OP complained about the patch taking too long to download. I wrote my experience (obviously from data point of view as Gebe stated). Out of the blue i got accused of giving false advices to OP's post. Do you see any advice in my post? Yeah false advice what the hec...k, No that is total nonsense. There was no advice given only experience. Btw, when is Lucas going to "Execute order 66" on Disney? Also, hope ColonelPete doesn´t show up soon to lecture us with some statistics that patching is indeed working as intended and us "Experience" feeling people are always wrong 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #20 Posted October 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Aschwell said: Btw, when is Lucas going to "Execute order 66" on Disney? Execution of Order 66 on 'Disney' Jedi has been postponed due to corona. We are hoping to execute it by the end of this month; 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #21 Posted October 8, 2020 Just an observation but the last two Patches have been a total Pain with slow downloads, going back and checking it's own progress and then still ing up, So many Bugs and Wierd Generaly something any Gaming Company should be internaly kicking some backsides over, I also run Down Detector and the number of minor small outages seems to have risen along with the noticable major "Here Have a Flag Ones" But Hey WG 2020 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #22 Posted October 8, 2020 18 hours ago, Yedwy said: Try limiting the UL speed That wont work. My UL is blocked and still have slow updating process. This is just weegee's nonsense... They care only about making money from new wallet events like gambings boxes and cartoon looking overprized camos. THey dont care about optimization of this game but something tells me they dont even know how to do that. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #23 Posted October 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Aschwell said: Also, hope ColonelPete doesn´t show up soon to lecture us with some statistics that patching is indeed working as intended and us "Experience" feeling people are always wrong Aaaargh Not the Graph, Please Anything but the Graph 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,373 battles Report post #24 Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Yxkraft said: Your system is unstable, you have most likely a defective cpu or defective main memory. You can use memtest86 to check your CPU and memory. Your hard drive could also be the cause, but defective hard drives tend to fail mechanically. If you have an SSD you might have gotten "bit rot" since an SSD has a finite lifetime depending on the type of flash memory used. The flash memory in an SSD can have several states, the most durable and long lasting is the single bit flash that is either 0 or 1 (SLC flash) This is also the most expensive since you need 1 cell to store 1 bit. The second most durable is those that store two bits ( 00, 01, 10, 11) . MLC flash. This flash memory has 4 states, cheapass SSDs use tri-bit flash memory (TLC flash) that stores three bits and wears down quicly. Flash memory is destroyed by a kind of electric erosion when you write to the memory cell, but you can read from a cell infinite times without destroying it. Single bit flash memory may survive 100K writes, two bit flash memory does 10K but tri bit flash memory only does 1K writes before the cell has eroded so much that you get bit errors. The flash drives used in data centers are all single bit SLC , the cheapass consumer grade crap is TLC with a MLC cache because it gives the lowers cost per megabytes and consumers do not care about durability only price per megabyte. Nothing wrong with core memory, CPU or hard disc drive as I have a complete set of utilities and nothing wrong with core temp either, therefore, not a pc fault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AFKRS] Yxkraft [AFKRS] Players 332 posts 23,198 battles Report post #25 Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, pzkpfwv1d said: Nothing wrong with core memory, CPU or hard disc drive as I have a complete set of utilities and nothing wrong with core temp either, therefore, not a pc fault It does not work like you think it does. Files are transferred with error checking protocols, if they are broken for you but not for everyone else someone has either seeded bad data (unlikely) or it is something wrong with your system. You cannot test your cpu and memory for memory errors when you run windows because windows use virtually adressed memory and if you detect a fault you have no idea where the actual memory page is mapped. When you use memtest86 you burn it to a bootable CD and boot from it, it then runs tests with direct access to your hardware. I think you can boot it from an USB stick too but I havent tried that since I have a dvd burner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites