[8WOD] NiKuTa Players 74 posts Report post #1 Posted October 4, 2020 This game should have name like World of Battleships. Why? You probably already know. Players waiting for battle 237 : 15 : 10 (BB:CA:DD) tier VII 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #2 Posted October 4, 2020 ...and what counters battleships? right, destroyers. 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #3 Posted October 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, NiKuTa said: Why? You probably already know. Players waiting for battle 237 : 15 : 10 (BB:CA:DD) tier VII can't be, since we all now BBs are unplayable due to HE and torp spam 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #4 Posted October 4, 2020 No one mentioning CVs as an issue? They must have gotten fixed. 2 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[8WOD] NiKuTa Players 74 posts Report post #5 Posted October 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Klopirat said: can't be, since we all now BBs are unplayable due to HE and torp spam I forgot to make a screen. ( no time ) When hit battle I have about 1-2 sec before enter battle in CA. Just remember the numbers. In CA or DD you are in battle when you hit battle. In BB sometimes you have to wait 1-2 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #6 Posted October 4, 2020 1x CV 5x BB 2x CL/CA 4x DD Seems to be a new norm on higher tiers. Ppl seem to play less cruisers, and I'm one of them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[8WOD] NiKuTa Players 74 posts Report post #7 Posted October 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said: 1x CV 5x BB 2x CL/CA 4x DD Seems to be a new norm on higher tiers. Ppl seem to play less cruisers, and I'm one of them. I have the same battle now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #8 Posted October 4, 2020 Hold on comrade......the full 3 D solution is on its way. Soon torpedoes will be lauched at the large number of offending BB from under, on and above the water surface ! With the new lighting effects WG works on also the burning wrecks will illuminate the other enemies around them ! Just as in RL naval battles.....It will be glorious ! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LA_FR] Eikkuu Players 317 posts 6,313 battles Report post #9 Posted October 4, 2020 Il y a 33 minutes, NiKuTa a dit : This game should have name like World of Battleships. Why? You probably already know. Players waiting for battle 237 : 15 : 10 (BB:CA:DD) tier VII Time to get my Kaga and farm ! I play Amagi for grind Yamato here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[8WOD] NiKuTa Players 74 posts Report post #10 Posted October 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, MyAngelAkagi said: Time to get my Kaga and farm ! I play Amagi for grind Yamato here. LoL even better then my :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LA_FR] Eikkuu Players 317 posts 6,313 battles Report post #11 Posted October 4, 2020 Il y a 1 minute, NiKuTa a dit : LoL even better then my :) Sadly yes, l remember after this game l take my CVs, no need to be food for BB with my cruisers, just farm them x) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riggerby Beta Tester 306 posts 3,108 battles Report post #12 Posted October 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said: Ppl seem to play less cruisers, and I'm one of them. They have definitely lost alot of their dynamism / utility. I think its just powercreep really. Devs have added so many 457mm+ battleships that now ships like Desmo and Moskva can no longer effectively bow tank, AA rework / nerf means ships like Desmo, Moskva, Stalin, Wooster, Mino etc are now actually the most vulnerable ships to CV in the game now MVR can nuke them. Even their role as the primary DD killers has now been largely replaced by how proficient ships like Daring and Smaland are at it. I don't think cruisers are bad, and you can obviously still find ways to make them work, But they definitely get punished far more now than ever. You show side and you're getting deleted. For most player this kind of insta death punishment just isnt fun so they will play BB instead. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #13 Posted October 4, 2020 World of Damage Farmers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCUMM] herrjott [SCUMM] Players 943 posts 22,067 battles Report post #14 Posted October 4, 2020 Don't worry, WG has known this and been working on this issue since 2016: Am 28.9.2016 um 17:28, Takeda92 sagte: A: We would like to make cruisers more popular. This is why they get rudder mod.3 in 0.5.12. Other tweaks will be introduced later. In our concept of ideal class distribution, BBs should have 25-30% of popularity. It works more or less, but on some realms/tiers they exceeded this limit. We don't want global nerfs and will try to avoid them at all costs - this is why we cancelled bow plating reduction. But some smaller, more precise actions will be taken. Am 10.8.2016 um 17:57, Carnotzet sagte: 4. A very brief summary Battleships are played. Battleships survive. Battleships inflict damage. Battleships are a good and useful class. If we were to buff them, by increasing their survivability (especially against fires and HE shells), they would be overpowered. Our game would become World of Battleships. And that is bad. 35.1% popularity, we can live with that. But it is bordering on being too much. So, if we were to follow players' suggestions, we would have to nerf them in another way. If they had a better survivability, we would have to nerf their damage for example, and according to our experience, such change would not be well received by players. That is why we do not plan to make any considerable changes to battleship balance or to fire mechanics. So, after WGs careful adjustments over the last four years, we are currently at 41.6% in the higher Tiers 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #15 Posted October 4, 2020 Those queue numbers are sometimes deceiving. In this case I had games with 4 DDs per side, yet according to queue info it should be none. Dont know how exaclty the whole "players in range" works. In range of what? Geologically? Based on latency? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] st_dasa Players 457 posts 15,659 battles Report post #16 Posted October 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, nambr9 said: Those queue numbers are sometimes deceiving. In this case I had games with 4 DDs per side, yet according to queue info it should be none. Dont know how exaclty the whole "players in range" works. In range of what? Geologically? Based on latency? I often exit the queue when i see more than 4 CVs waiting. Then i get back. 0 CVs. FU*CK yes, let's go baby. I get queued up......... and BOOM. Two CVs per side. Yeah, queue numbers are just a pile of BS. 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #17 Posted October 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, st_dasa said: I often exit the queue when i see more than 4 CVs waiting. Then i get back. 0 CVs. FU*CK yes, let's go baby. I get queued up......... and BOOM. Two CVs per side. Yeah, queue numbers are just a pile of BS. 3 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #18 Posted October 4, 2020 2 hours ago, MyAngelAkagi said: Time to get my Kaga and farm ! I play Amagi for grind Yamato here. Don't do it! Lol you will only get tier 10 match ups 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #19 Posted October 4, 2020 World of Casinos anyone? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEEL] PeteEarthling [STEEL] Players 1,037 posts Report post #20 Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, MyAngelAkagi said: I play Amagi for grind Yamato here. My techtree shows Izumo in between.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #21 Posted October 4, 2020 From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warships Quote On August 16, 2011, the company website of Wargaming, developer and publisher of World of Tanks and World of Warplanes, announced World of Battleships, a free-to-play naval action MMO, intended to complete the World of war trilogy developed by the company. [...] See camrade? Is all working as intended, da. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LA_FR] Eikkuu Players 317 posts 6,313 battles Report post #22 Posted October 4, 2020 Il y a 1 heure, PeteEarthling a dit : My techtree shows Izumo in between.. A lot a people say Izumo is a bad ship. l say a grind Yamato because it's the T10 l know there the Izumo in T9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[8WOD] NiKuTa Players 74 posts Report post #23 Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, nambr9 said: Those queue numbers are sometimes deceiving. In this case I had games with 4 DDs per side, yet according to queue info it should be none. Dont know how exaclty the whole "players in range" works. In range of what? Geologically? Based on latency? 4 DD per side is very rare. Most of time when I'm playing I see 1-2 DD per side. DD now is a cannon fodder. Too many radars ( which see through the islands, maybe russian radars can, but this is idiotic). DD are dead by AP shells in 1-2 salvo, and the best most of DD have less gun range then some BB sec guns ( at least this which I have in my port) . IF I'm in Z-23 with 9,9 km range vs 12+ km sec I don't even use my guns, for what to have 10 sec delay for disappear. At the beginning of game playing in DD was fun. All classes had their role CA against DD, BB against CA, DD against BB. Or something like that. Now BB don't need CA support near. BB will kill DD with main + sec guns and that's all. BB kill CA in few salvoes using AP. I try to make few T10 ships but it is pointless. The best battles are between 5-7 tiers. On T10 there is no fun. Clan battles are too rare. Ranking even less. Random battles are boring, to much camping, most of the time battles took 15 mins. Everybody hide behind islands and scream about I need " intelligence data ". And even if you win battle your your credits are in minus. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #24 Posted October 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, NiKuTa said: 4 DD per side is very rare. Most of time when I'm playing I see 1-2 DD per side. At what tier? I've seen 4 DDs per side in half of my battles today (t9-10), because... 1. BBs are hard-capped at 5 2. Too few CVs for most games to have them What it means is that in a typical high-tier match right now (especially if you get a "pure t9 match", physically incapable of having CVs) you have 5 BBs, 0 CVs and leaving us with 7 spots to fill by cruisers and DDs only. Depending on luck and the fluctuation of the amount of people queueing with both classes, you actually very rarely get 2 DDs (and I haven't seen a 1DD/team match in the last couple of days), the norm being 3-4 (usually 3 is more common but together I think 4 came up more or less just as often). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #25 Posted October 4, 2020 Right now there's an early access USN BB event going on, which is probably having an effect on the number of BB's in queue.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites