[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #1 Posted October 1, 2020 I really tried to make FDR work in a good way, going after DDs and CAs, but this thing just cannot do it properly. Not only are the planes slow, all types of ordnance leave a lot of reaction time too. Everything about it is designed to attack big and clumsy targets. In the end I figured out that you can only play it as a damn Sky Conqueror, which is super toxic and bad for your team: So what's the experience of others - do you have a good way to play this thing, other than using it as a silly BB-farmer ? 2 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #2 Posted October 1, 2020 Right, because 250k is such a bad result. The right way to handle FdR is, right click itvin port and choose the sell option. If not available, ignore it. 8 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #3 Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: Right, because 250k is such a bad result. You don't win many games this way. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #4 Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: In the end I figured out that you can only play it as a damn Sky Conqueror, which is super toxic and bad for your team: Congratulations. You understand how this DMG farmer is supposed to work. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #5 Posted October 1, 2020 Why not let BBs get some sky love? Cruisers and DDs had to share it so far I wonder, will FDR be the first freemium gettingly directly nerfed when BB tears will overflow the ocean? The only reason why it might not, is because not enough people will get/play it 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #6 Posted October 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: You don't win many games this way. --> 5 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said: Congratulations. You understand how this DMG farmer is supposed to work. And as somebody, who mostly plays DDs in high tiers, I hope many people will be blindfolded by the damage numbers the FDR racks up and finally leave me the F alone. So im not complaining. Anyway, the concept is not much different from the other CVs, which make any DD or Cruiser (depending which CV we talk about, one more or less then the other) that is so unfortunate to end up in the same game, bend over. Hint: Division FDR with 2 BBs to ensure maximum targets l0l 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DTABM] Carandraug Players 371 posts 8,340 battles Report post #7 Posted October 1, 2020 How to make it work? Randomly roll over your keyboard while laughing at the idea of mythical AA that does anything. This thing is an abomination even for the shitshow level of the CV class as a whole. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALONE] Smeggo Modder 2,485 posts 15,344 battles Report post #8 Posted October 1, 2020 Played her for two months and can confirm - you can make some damage, mostly against BBs. But you cannot decide matches, you have no weapons against DDs. Sit back, enjoy a slow & easy gameplay with staring some fires. If you want to play to win, this is not the CV you are looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_Renegade Players 855 posts 7,183 battles Report post #9 Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: Why not let BBs get some sky love? Cruisers and DDs had to share it so far 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #10 Posted October 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: I wonder, will FDR be the first freemium gettingly directly nerfed when BB tears will overflow the ocean? The only reason why it might not, is because not enough people will get/play it With the numbers of BBs in rank & random queue its about freakin time something counters this class. If we would only have another class... that would be effective against big, massive, not so mobile (strike that) targets...hmm... anyone? Nah, cant think of any. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #11 Posted October 1, 2020 So it farms BB...... As DFens righfully remarks : DD have their dedicated anti DD CV types already, Cruisers have their dedicated anti Cruiser CV types already.......so is it strange we now have a dedicated anti-BB farmer CV ? And mindful of their largest ( and whiniest ) by far playerbase as WG is, it is locked behind a steel wall so it will not terrorize the BB playerbase....too much. Except in CB's where WG seems to have a score to settle with some boycotter individuals.....as a choice between prey ( BB ) and hunter ( CV ) will then be a lot easier, in favor of what WG wishes to see. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #12 Posted October 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: YOU DAMN MEME STEALER!! You didn't even use the correct form or give any notice! ------------>>>>>>>> @Excavatus I'm officially reporting Dfens for meme theft. I trust appropriate action will be taken. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #13 Posted October 1, 2020 4 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: I really tried to make FDR work in a good way, going after DDs and CAs, but this thing just cannot do it properly. Not only are the planes slow, all types of ordnance leave a lot of reaction time too. Everything about it is designed to attack big and clumsy targets. In the end I figured out that you can only play it as a damn Sky Conqueror, which is super toxic and bad for your team: So what's the experience of others - do you have a good way to play this thing, other than using it as a silly BB-farmer ? I'm confused. Harassing BB's in a carrier is toxic all of a sudden? Silly? And harrassing cruisers and destroyers in carriers is not? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14 Posted October 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, Europizza said: I'm confused. Harassing BB's in a carrier is toxic all of a sudden? Silly? And harrassing cruisers and destroyers in carriers is not? Picking on Cruisers and DDs is like picking on the weird kid in school: You shouldnt do it, but yet its kinda fun i suppose. Picking on BBs is probably like attacking the schoolyard bully 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BASIC] koliber_1984 Players 1,113 posts 27,807 battles Report post #15 Posted October 1, 2020 OMG, looks like the rest of Ranked Season will be a nightmare... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #16 Posted October 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: Picking on Cruisers and DDs is like picking on the weird kid in school: You shouldnt do it, but yet its kinda fun i suppose. Picking on BBs is probably like attacking the schoolyard bully But... but...carriers are the bullies? That didn't help at all bud. Wait, it's like picking on the fat kid? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #17 Posted October 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Europizza said: But... but...carriers are the bullies? That didn't help at all bud. Wait, it's like picking on the fat kid? hmm, then picking on BBs is like picking on the dude that runs of to his mommy and telling what you did -> BB players running to WG, how they are being mistreated 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] mantiscore Players 546 posts 14,565 battles Report post #18 Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, ForlornSailor said: With the numbers of BBs in rank & random queue its about freakin time something counters this class. If we would only have another class... that would be effective against big, massive, not so mobile (strike that) targets...hmm... anyone? Nah, cant think of any. right, so in your mind dd torps, HE spammers, submarines and AP bombers are not counters to bbs currently bbs are useful for one thing. be a punchbag for every other class ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #19 Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, mantiscore said: right, so in your mind dd torps, HE spammers, submarines and AP bombers are not counters to bbs currently bbs are useful for one thing. be a punchbag for every other class ok Sure, if you were right, then explain to us, why the queue in ranked is overloaded since second one with BBs? Why the random queue is overloaded with BBs, getting worse and worse? AP bombers are a counter to BBs? Have you played a Cleveland f.e. when a CV with AP bombs is coming at you? Yet you call it a "BB counter?" are you serious? DD torps? what happens to an Edinburgh that gets hit by 2 IJN or PA torps hm? game is over for the cruiser. Not to mention a DD taking even ONE torp. But yea, that must be a matter "gitgud, just dodge" but DEM POOR POOOOOR BBs, once there is a tool around that for some magical reason is actually more effective against them then against the other classes. We shall all join in the whine and demand a stop to that cruelty. Yea. No. My sympathy is non-existend. Have you already forgot about all the BBs buffs btw? Ofc you have. You got free premium consumables and flooding was not only nerfed it was put into a tiny, pink constume so everyone can make fun of it. A nerf, that directly hit DDs and buffed BB impact beyond any boundaries. Pretty much the biggest change in class-interaction in all 5 years of wows. And you call em... punchbags ?? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #20 Posted October 1, 2020 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] mantiscore Players 546 posts 14,565 battles Report post #21 Posted October 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: Sure, if you were right, then explain to us, why the queue in ranked is overloaded since second one with BBs? Why the random queue is overloaded with BBs, getting worse and worse? AP bombers are a counter to BBs? Have you played a Cleveland f.e. when a CV with AP bombs is coming at you? Yet you call it a "BB counter?" are you serious? DD torps? what happens to an Edinburgh that gets hit by 2 IJN or PA torps hm? game is over for the cruiser. Not to mention a DD taking even ONE torp. But yea, that must be a matter "gitgud, just dodge" but DEM POOR POOOOOR BBs, once there is a tool around that for some magical reason is actually more effective against them then against the other classes. We shall all join in the whine and demand a stop to that cruelty. Yea. No. My sympathy is non-existend. Have you already forgot about all the BBs buffs btw? Ofc you have. You got free premium consumables and flooding was not only nerfed it was put into a tiny, pink constume so everyone can make fun of it. A nerf, that directly hit DDs and buffed BB impact beyond any boundaries. Pretty much the biggest change in class-interaction in all 5 years of wows. And you call em... punchbags ?? yes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #22 Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Miragetank90 said: YOU DAMN MEME STEALER!! You didn't even use the correct form or give any notice! ------------>>>>>>>> @Excavatus I'm officially reporting Dfens for meme theft. I trust appropriate action will be taken. That notice will cost you three californias extra thicc addition with ADDED 508mm quads and 203mm triple secondaries. *loud cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #23 Posted October 1, 2020 4 hours ago, DFens_666 said: I wonder, will FDR be the first freemium gettingly directly nerfed when BB tears will overflow the ocean? I doubt it very much. BBs fell out of grace, the favouritism shifted towards cvs. BBs can cry all day long that wont change a thing. you had already 3 all classes asking for more AA. apparently their answer was AP bombs, new stupid OP cv skills and this. if you think this planes are tanky (btw, did you see the absurd amount of rockets they can launch in a single strike?) wait and see for Sturmovik (Ilyushin Il-2 ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #24 Posted October 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: hmm, then picking on BBs is like picking on the dude that runs of to his mommy and telling what you did -> BB players running to WG, how they are being mistreated Problem is that when WG arrive with nerf bat and see that bully is actually a CV it would stop and wouldn't know what to do. If it is just cruiser or DD it would beat them to the pulp but it is a CV .... WG loves BB but CV is still their precious one with special needs. What to the do there? Probably just beat cruisers and DDs in pulp for every case. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TFD-] Furius_Marius Players 268 posts 12,341 battles Report post #25 Posted October 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Beastofwar said: So it farms BB...... As DFens righfully remarks : DD have their dedicated anti DD CV types already, Cruisers have their dedicated anti Cruiser CV types already.......so is it strange we now have a dedicated anti-BB farmer CV ? And mindful of their largest ( and whiniest ) by far playerbase as WG is, it is locked behind a steel wall so it will not terrorize the BB playerbase....too much. Except in CB's where WG seems to have a score to settle with some boycotter individuals.....as a choice between prey ( BB ) and hunter ( CV ) will then be a lot easier, in favor of what WG wishes to see. Most Cvs are very effective against BBs too. They are the easiest to hit with bombs and torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites