Derivative missions - are they meant to irritate people?

[StanleyHTweedle]

Not the first time I'm playing casually and getting to a point when I miss just 1 or 2 points to finish something. So... seriously? Collections you can't collect unless you drop out of job and play (or have to wait for a year before the containers can be bought)... Missions you can't complete for the same reason. And now a timed campaign you can't complete unless you sacrifice your work/family time balance?

 

Seriously, WG?...

[ColonelPete]

• most collections are easy, some are open ended and therefore VERY easy
• timed campaigns are rare and the EU one was easy
• the mission you show requires you to get 75 out of 180 daily missions per month, that means an average of 2 1/2 missions per day, which is roughly 3 matches per day...

[StanleyHTweedle]

Thank you captain Obvious. And no. You're wrong.

[Wizard27_1979]

14 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

And now a timed campaign you can't complete unless you sacrifice your work/family time balance?

 

I'm working 8-10 hours a day, have wife and two kids. Doing all that flake-stuff I just did co-op-matches (and 12 ranked) - it was enough for getting the 75-missions in this patch even.

European campaign was finished some months ago by me as I just repeated the easy missions. I disagree that you have to sacrifice that much as you said - and it's just some Research-Points in this case.

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

Thank you captain Obvious. And no. You're wrong.

When I am stating the obvious, I cannot be wrong, right?

[StanleyHTweedle]

You can be wrong if you're stating the obvious circumstances without taking into account that other people are not you, and your personal perspective isn't universal.

 

But oh well, you can always add "if you have a complaint, contact the support department" or something equally high-horsey.

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

You can be wrong if you're stating the obvious circumstances without taking into account that other people are not you, and your personal perspective isn't universal.

 

But oh well, you can always add "if you have a complaint, contact the support department" or something equally high-horsey.

What about "open ended" is not universal?

What about timed campaigns are rare is not universal?

What about 3 matches per day is not universal?

[Captain_Newman]

You're not entitled to free stuff, and WG is allowed to make you grind as hard as they like for whatever free goods they came up with. Up to you if you want to engage or not. 3 and a half matches per day is a fairly low bar to cross, though, especially since a lot of things are grindable in coop.

 

Now, are the missions boring and derivative? Of course. It's a f2p game, grind boring stuff or pay up is the model.

[Taliesn]

30 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

Not the first time I'm playing casually and getting to a point when I miss just 1 or 2 points to finish something. So... seriously? Collections you can't collect unless you drop out of job and play (or have to wait for a year before the containers can be bought)... Missions you can't complete for the same reason. And now a timed campaign you can't complete unless you sacrifice your work/family time balance?

 

Seriously, WG?...

I rarely play more than 5-7 games a day, in Random, and you can get the reward of that 75 combat missions with half a month to spare.

Now, you may play coop only and two games a day, but that is your decision and in fact you're not missing the entire reward, since intermediate points (every combat mission) also give you rewards.

 

Do you really find it odd that WG or any other company that earns money through its player base playing the game would give more rewards to people the more they play? Because I find it baffling and naive that anyone would think so.

[Beastofwar]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

• most collections are easy, some are open ended and therefore VERY easy
• timed campaigns are rare and the EU one was easy
• the mission you show requires you to get 75 out of 180 daily missions per month, that means an average of 2 1/2 missions per day, which is roughly 3 matches per day...

 

3 matches EVERY day is still a lot of time.....if they last the full 20 minutes you are looking at an hour per day. Times 7 days  = 7 hours a week.......almost a full working ( office work ) day.

 

For casual playing you are better off in single player games or games that work offline too. Depends what you compare it to.

[StanleyHTweedle]

Most of you above use statistics saying "a day"... Can you imagine that some people lead normal lives where they can't play every day? Or rather they can play 5-7 games on weekends (not every Sat/Sun) and maybe a game or two once or twice a week? Also I'm a paying customer, so what if I can't complete most missions because they're time-limited?

 

IMO the whole idea of time-limited missions misses the point, which is to encourage people to play, not to irritate when you can't finish something (and I'm NOT referring to cases like yours when you DID finish the mission and you DID get satisfaction out of it).

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

3 matches EVERY day is still a lot of time.....

 

For casual playing you are better off in single player games or games that work offline too. Depends what you compare it to.

You do not need to play them every day. You just need to average them.

There are often two or three days a week I do not play. Still manage to do the mission before the end of the month, sometimes with a week to spare.

[Beastofwar]

Just now, StanleyHTweedle said:

Most of you above use statistics saying "a day"... Can you imagine that some people lead normal lives where they can't play every day? Or rather they can play 5-7 games on weekends (not every Sat/Sun) and maybe a game or two once or twice a week? Also I'm a paying customer, so what if I can't complete most missions because they're time-limited?

 

IMO the whole idea of time-limited missions misses the point, which is to encourage people to play, not to irritate when you can't finish something (and I'm NOT referring to cases like yours when you DID finish the mission and you DID get satisfaction out of it).

 

They don't want to reward you......they want to get you addicted.

 

Since your time schedule does not allow to get addicted it merely feels as irritating.

[StanleyHTweedle]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

You do not need to play them every day. You just need to average them.

There are often two or three days a week I do not play. Still manage to do the mission before the end of the month, sometimes with a week to spare.

For me (and as I read on forums for some other people as well) the average you refer to is too high - and that's why when you replied in the first place, I said you're wrong. Good for you that you manage to reach this average. For me it's an unsurpassable barrier.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

For me (and as I read on forums for some other people as well) the average you refer to is too high - and that's why when you replied in the first place, I said you're wrong. Good for you that you manage to reach this average. For me it's an unsurpassable barrier.

You managed to get to 74 of 75 for the mission. That means you played at least 74 battles this month, probably more.

You made the mistake to ignore the counter for too long. One more match, sometime sooner during this month and you would have ended up with 75. That is hardly the fault of somebody else.

[arquata2019_]

4 minuti fa, ColonelPete ha scritto:

You managed to get to 74 of 75 for the mission. That means you played at least 74 battles this month, probably more.

You made the mistake to ignore the counter for too long. One more match, sometime sooner during this month and you would have ended up with 75. That is hardly the fault of somebody else.

what a hard coincidence to end 74 to 75 XD (if  coincidence means what i mean)

[StanleyHTweedle]

Jesus, I feel like talking to a well full of frogs... No, I didn't ignore the counter - I just didn't have the time. And you actually answered your question yourself - 74 battles equals roughly 24 hours. Any more obvious information you'd like to present out of your own perspective?

[StanleyHTweedle]

And thank you arquata2019 for the first actually funny comment here :) That's the ribbing I counted for ;-)

[arquata2019_]

1 minuto fa, StanleyHTweedle ha scritto:

And thank you arquata2019 for the first actually funny comment here :) That's the ribbing I counted for ;-)

well, there are missions that require that you stay in the game for a while, there are always missions like those, just like now.

[Yamashiro42]

Well, to me it seems you already got 400 RB points for the 25 daily missions task and another 400 RB points for 50 daily missions task, only missing the last 400 for the 75. In my opinion getting two thirds of them is not bad for a casual player.

[arquata2019_]

Proprio ora, Yamashiro42 ha scritto:

Well, to me it seems you already got 400 RB points for the 25 daily missions task and another 400 RB points for 50 daily missions task, only missing the last 400 for the 75. In my opinion getting two thirds of them is not bad for a casual player.

all or nothing

[arquata2019_]

1 ora fa, ColonelPete ha scritto:

• most collections are easy, some are open ended and therefore VERY easy
• timed campaigns are rare and the EU one was easy
• the mission you show requires you to get 75 out of 180 daily missions per month, that means an average of 2 1/2 missions per day, which is roughly 3 matches per day...

depends on the player, except daily ones..

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

Jesus, I feel like talking to a well full of frogs... No, I didn't ignore the counter - I just didn't have the time. And you actually answered your question yourself - 74 battles equals roughly 24 hours. Any more obvious information you'd like to present out of your own perspective?

Then do not aim for stuff you cannot reach. When playing one more game was not possible, then the mission is not for you.

 

When the Benham mission chain came out, I looked at it and said: "Nope, not for me". I did not even attempt it.

When the Puerto Rico event started, I looked at it and said: "Nope, not for me".

 

1 minute ago, arquata2019 said:

depends on the player, except daily ones..

• Open ended collections are easy for everyone
• Open ended campaigns are easy for everyone
• when you cannot play enough battles for the 75 daily missions, then do not attempt it

[StanleyHTweedle]

ColonelPete just suggested elitism as a business model is beneficiary. Kudos :) It's like saying "if you can't earn more than you want, don't work" ;)

 

M8, really... I don't mean to offend you, but you need to reevaluate your perspective and include other than your own.

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, StanleyHTweedle said:

ColonelPete just suggested elitism as a business model is beneficiary. Kudos :) It's like saying "if you can't earn more than you want, don't work" ;)

 

M8, really... I don't mean to offend you, but you need to reevaluate your perspective and include other than your own.

You seem to miss the fact that there are MANY different types of players in the game. Should WG offer only rewards that cater to one group of players? So much for YOUR perspective!

 

And what group should that be?