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Flak Balance - Östergötland, Haland, Minotauer

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58 minutes ago, _Ghostship_ said:

The Anti-Air of these ships needs to get balanced. 

 

Östergötland and Haland are just insane. You can even press "F" fast enough, your whole squad will die in 4-5 Seconds. Minotauer AA is also too strong and has too much range, also ships should get a penalty of aa-damage when in smoke. 

So future FDR owners are crawling out of the woodwork...

 

 

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No luck on the German forums, now trying the English forums huh?

 

Well then,

1 hour ago, _Ghostship_ said:

Östergötland and Haland are just insane. You can even press "F" fast enough, your whole squad will die in 4-5 Seconds. Minotauer AA is also too strong and has too much range, also ships should get a penalty of aa-damage when in smoke. 

 

no, in fact their AA is far too weak. Especially Öster's AA is a complete joke.

 

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Tier IX and X should have more  noticable AA : the ships of that period are covered from bow to stern in AA emplacements with actual efficient type AA guns by that time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, _Ghostship_ said:

So you think they are well-balanced? 

 To have few ships that could actually do real dmg to planes? Definitely a good thing.

 If some CV players are annoyed by that, it's a bonus. Balancing things a bit, no ship class should be immune to being frustrated from time to time, so: yes.

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the sweedish dd' aa is actually broken they upcoming changes to spotting/ aa should at least off set it if nt quite fix

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1 hour ago, _Ghostship_ said:

The Anti-Air of these ships needs to get balanced. 

 

Östergötland and Haland are just insane. You can even press "F" fast enough, your whole squad will die in 4-5 Seconds. Minotauer AA is also too strong and has too much range, also ships should get a penalty of aa-damage when in smoke. 

Yes and we love it!!! Finally a no fly zone! Welcome to my party, cv. 😁

 

BUT! A skilled cv captain stays away until the end and then its a struggle for even a Halland to stay alive.....

The less skilled cvs I LOVE to ambush with aa and just shoot his squadron to little pieces in a few seconds..!!

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20 minutes ago, _Ghostship_ said:

So you think they are well-balanced? 

 

No, they actually need buffs :cap_yes:

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13 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

No luck on the German forums, now trying the English forums huh?

 

Well then,

 

no, in fact their AA is far too weak. Especially Öster's AA is a complete joke.

 

Only against t10 cvs. Against t8 it is doing ok unless its s very good player. The Halland can hold its own, but if its a good and very determined cv player its hard if its a midway. 
All other cvs I do not care about in Halland. I dont think I have had my Halland sunk once from a cv....but I could be wrong. And I have never played against you either...😊

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4 minutes ago, OldPappy said:

Only against t10 cvs. Against t8 it is doing ok unless its s very good player. The Halland can hold its own, but if its a good and very determined cv player its hard if its a midway. 
All other cvs I do not care about in Halland. I dont think I have had my Halland sunk once from a cv....but I could be wrong. And I have never played against you either...😊

 

 

 

It just means you didn't play against a competent t8 CV player yet or he ignored you during the game;

 

 

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How dare a tiny shred of CV counterplay exists 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

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29 minutes ago, OldPappy said:

Yes and we love it!!! Finally a no fly zone!

The thing is, WG wanted to get rid on these no-fly zones with the AA-rework and now they added no fly zones to the game again 

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18 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said:

 

 

 

It just means you didn't play against a competent t8 CV player yet or he ignored you during the game;

 

 

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All the t8 cvs cannot be incompetent?!

So it seems not to matter that much....

I think I have only been killed by t10 cvs while in Östergötland...😊

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1 minute ago, _Ghostship_ said:

The thing is, WG wanted to get rid on these no-fly zones with the AA-rework and now they added no fly zones to the game again 

And a good thing by WG it is!

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2 minutes ago, OldPappy said:

All the t8 cvs cannot be incompetent?!

So it seems not to matter that much....

I think I have only been killed by t10 cvs while in Östergötland...😊

You have only 48 game in Halland. When you think how many of those games had CVs, how many had T10 CVs, how many had T8 CVs, how many CV games had (in)competent CV players since good CV players are something uncommon, you most likely never met one, or at most one-two. So yeah, all T8 CV players are not incompetent, you just didn't meet the ones that can sink you in Halland yet.

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3 hours ago, OldPappy said:

Only against t10 cvs. Against t8 it is doing ok unless its s very good player.

 

Which just means CV players need to take a taste of their own medicine and git gud.

 

2 hours ago, _Ghostship_ said:

The thing is, WG wanted to get rid on these no-fly zones with the AA-rework and now they added no fly zones to the game again 

 

All of the ships listed are extremely far from being no fly zones. No fly zones do not exist in the game.

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3 hours ago, OldPappy said:

Only against t10 cvs. Against t8 it is doing ok unless its s very good player. The Halland can hold its own, but if its a good and very determined cv player its hard if its a midway. 
All other cvs I do not care about in Halland. I dont think I have had my Halland sunk once from a cv....but I could be wrong. And I have never played against you either...😊

Man I sink Hallands in all my T8 CVs. No matter which one. Just depends if they are worth it.

And @El2aZeR is right, Öland is meh.  Östergötland as well. I faildiv a T6 CV into T9 and still smack them.

Unless I screw it up. But I'm not THAT good, just a bit savvy. The really good guys won't make that mistake. 

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I am willing to admit that AA on Halland and Minotaur are too strong if the OP is ready to admit AA is too weak on all the other 300 ships that are not CVs.

Boy, do we really need to bloat the forum with nonsense like this? Even in a parallel world where a petabyte costs a single cent, this would be a waste of server space.

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