Annoying ranked battels

[totosniperofhell]

(no native english speaker)

 

Stared on rank 13 , needed 16 matches for rank 9. win rate 66 %.

 

Well, after that i dropped dead.

No more matches won, 30 matches lost in a row (over some days) ! then up, down. down to 12 up to 9 down to 12... and so on

 

well it SUCKS.

 

i am not the wolrd best player, but iam in the middel of the team..  after match ends always rank 1- 4.

 

i turned away from WoW for one year and i guess it's time to leave it for ever because nothing had changed and looks like it will not change at all.

 

waste of life time .

 

rant ended.

 

 

 

 

[_HomTanks_]

Many players (bad, average, good, top) don’t play ranked games to keep their sanity. 
 

Not saying you can have sane games in random but at least you can div up or use the broken CVs to grief and pretend it’s a thinking man’s action game.

[principat121]

No one forces you to play Ranked Battle. 

[totosniperofhell]

Just now, principat121 said:

No one forces you to play Ranked Battle. 

Well, typical brain dead answer.

 

Sure, no one does that.

 

But a company should care about fun.

Most people play games for fun, if you have no fun, you don't play it anymore.

Because of that, company loose money, can't make games and so on.

 

So it's a littel bit more complicated then: "No one forces you to play Ranked Battle. "

 

 

If you can get what i mean.

[eliastion]

1 hour ago, totosniperofhell said:

(no native english speaker)

 

Stared on rank 13 , needed 16 matches for rank 9. win rate 66 %.

 

Well, after that i dropped dead.

No more matches won, 30 matches lost in a row (over some days) ! then up, down. down to 12 up to 9 down to 12... and so on

 

well it SUCKS.

 

i am not the wolrd best player, but iam in the middel of the team..  after match ends always rank 1- 4.

(...)

Ok, let's get obvious things out of the way for starters: the place on the leaderboard - depending what you play - tells you little about your actual contribution, because that in no small part depends on what you play and the playstyle. This especially applies to BBs. A BB - unless they go full yolo - needs to really, REALLY suck to end up as one of the bottom 3 in the team in a lost match. The reason for that is that BBs usually don't go down that fast compared to DDs (forced to take risks to contest caps) and cruisers (more heavily punished for mistakes). The result? A BB tends to live longer, accumulate more damage and benefit from the last rush of the enemy team when they are already sure of victory and can "safely" try to squeeze out  that last bit of personal rewards they can, be it by trying a suicidal drive-by in a DD or opening fire in open water in a cruiser completely unsuited for that, or a BB exposing full broadside to bring all the guns to bear... they are willing to take heavy damage and even die for that one or two extra salvoes - because the match is won and they fight for XP and credits at that point. The last survivors on the losing team get a nice boost to their XP - sometimes that's how they get an undeserved top slot but even if not that - it should be more than enough to help them escape the last 3 spots in the team.

 

And this brings us to the harsher part of my post. Losing 30 in a row is seriously tough - that was a very unfortunate streak. But if it's just a problem of losing more than you win... that's what you're doing in Randoms as well, isn't it? The 66% winrate in first 16 matches had more to do with luck than ability to carry your teammates - and that's what you need once you reach single digit ranks. I know this sounds awful, but what you experience (climbing ut to rank 10-9 at best and then promptly falling back to 12) is pretty much what is expected. Maybe even a bit better than expected. You are simply not good enough to win matches for your team - at best you can just barely make yourself light enough for your teammates to carry, but your victories remain dependent on whether the team can carry you or not. If you get a lucky streak, a bunch of matches in a row where your team is better than the opponents, they can carry you as high as R10. When the streak is REALLY lucky, you might even reach 9. Some super-lucky streak might perhaps get you even higher, but - realistically speaking - you reached about as high as you should expect to be able to.

 

Ranked is a mode supposedly designed to reward good payers for being good. The implementation sucks quite a bit, but it doesn't matter that the original idea is COMPLETELY gone. And the unfortunate connotation here is that unless you are good (never mind not even being average...) you're not going to see much success. Up to Rank 12 it's still manageable - closely packed irrevocable ranks let you just jump from irrevocable foothold to irrevocable foothold and slowly climb through the ranks. But at some point you reach a position where jumping won't cut it any more - you need the strength to fly on your own, because there are no more footholds between you and your destination at R1. Lucky streaks no longer help much, because you just don't get any permanent progress out of them - any temporary headway they give you quickly melts once the luck runs out, as it tends to do.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just stop parroting the same stuff that is being said here since forever over and over. Either keep playing or quit or take a break Noone cares dude. 

[Captain_Newman]

4 minutes ago, totosniperofhell said:

Well, typical brain dead answer.

 

 

Given that your profile is way below average, perhaps you should consider the possibility that at least a part of the reason you're having a hard time is your skill, or lack thereof, and not be rude by calling others braindead. Yes, ranked can get annoying, so don't play it if you don't like it. WG is implementing some changes to ranked soon, but after reading them, I doubt it'll be any less annoying. Up to you if you want to deal with it or not.

[Shaka_D]

Wish people would stop replying to people with really silly and illogical comments like 'noone forces you to play ranked battles'. This helps nothing and only shows ignorance. And to the OP I say that the only two problems I have with ranked is the 'retaining star' joke system, and the most of the players playing ranked.....me included. It's a cesspit of frustration for those with teamplay in mind trying to play against those who focus only on retaining their star or not getting their ship damaged, both of which work strongly against any form of utilitarian outcome. The selfish and the stupid are the two types of individual who benefit from ranked.

[Taliesn]

I know of very few people for whom competitive and fun really, and I mean really, go together.

 

30 loses in a row should tell you that:

 

1) You're not ready to play competitive at the higher ranks

2) It sure it's no fun unless you're onto some weird, truly kinky stuff.

[arquata2019_]

1 ora fa, Execute0rder66 ha scritto:

but at least you can div up or use the broken CVs to grief and pretend it’s a thinking man’s action game.

wonderful

 

2 ore fa, totosniperofhell ha scritto:

(no native english speaker)

 

Stared on rank 13 , needed 16 matches for rank 9. win rate 66 %.

 

Well, after that i dropped dead.

No more matches won, 30 matches lost in a row (over some days) ! then up, down. down to 12 up to 9 down to 12... and so on

 

well it SUCKS.

 

i am not the wolrd best player, but iam in the middel of the team..  after match ends always rank 1- 4.

 

i turned away from WoW for one year and i guess it's time to leave it for ever because nothing had changed and looks like it will not change at all.

 

waste of life time .

 

rant ended.

 

 

 

 

game is about luck :D

[Ew0kman]

28 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

wonderful

 

game is about luck :D

No Ranked is predetermined by WG, it is just like a vegas slot machine,  WG controlls everything, but claimes that it is random,  and it s a russian game, and russians have never done anything at random,  just accept that.

i might have claimed this too  much becaouse my game is constantly changing,  like my recovery counter stops, so i cant recover. and mys ship can be citadelled from a hit to my mast,  i mean that if this happens once or twice its likely a glitch , but every game the last 40games  then it is on purpose, and WG is punishing me for telling the truth.  besides there are to many hacks going around, a clan  on team speak, told me that they urge their members to use aimbots and spotting hacks

and i have encountered them in ranked battle and sure enough they win every time,  you might wonder why WG hasent  done anything about it yet.   i sure do.  

[arquata2019_]

3 minuti fa, kenalb ha scritto:

No Ranked is predetermined by WG, it is just like a vegas slot machine,  WG controlls everything, but claimes that it is random,  and it s a russian game, and russians have never done anything at random,  just accept that.

i might have claimed this too  much becaouse my game is constantly changing,  like my recovery counter stops, so i cant recover. and mys ship can be citadelled from a hit to my mast,  i mean that if this happens once or twice its likely a glitch , but every game the last 40games  then it is on purpose, and WG is punishing me for telling the truth.  besides there are to many hacks going around, a clan  on team speak, told me that they urge their members to use aimbots and spotting hacks

and i have encountered them in ranked battle and sure enough they win every time,  you might wonder why WG hasent  done anything about it yet.   i sure do.  

not that way

[Ew0kman]

why even bother 

[Verblonde]

3 hours ago, totosniperofhell said:

Stared on rank 13 , needed 16 matches for rank 9. win rate 66 %.

At the risk of repeating what others have said: you (and I) are simply not good enough to get to the higher ranks without an insane amount of game time and frustration.

 

Also, if you allow yourself to become too frustrated, you'll probably start to play even worse - due to trying to 'force' it. If you're getting annoyed, it's usually better to leave it alone and go and do something else for a while.

 

It's a bit pointless trying to provide long-term pointers as it looks like Ranked is about to be reworked significantly, which will probably change the detail of optimum approaches for less good players. Some general pointers though:

• IMO the most important thing - to protect one's sanity - is to have a realistic impression of how good you are; look at your own stats with as an objective eye as you can. How good are you really?
• Once you've done that, set realistic goals informed by things like which ships you have available and how much time can you afford to devote to the activity e.g. my WR is usually around 48% overall (sub-average), so R1 is entirely unrealistic for me as I'm not prepared to waste every waking hour trying to get there. So, what is a realistic aim for me? R12 should be fairly painless and there are plenty of irrevocable ranks along the way; R10 is doable (and worthwhile, due to the reduced service cost flag - dropped for the rework it seems) as you're still looking at two stars per level; beyond that starts to require the consistent levels of high performance that a 48% WR player will struggle to produce. So, for me, I go to R10 and call it a day there. You should follow a similar process.
• Thinking ahead (and recalling history), we can make certain predictions about future Ranked seasons (although their precise nature is uncertain due to the rework): it is a certainty that T10 Ranked will happen again (for all the usual pro-T10 reasons); there will probably be less frequent forays into other tiers, and they will probably favour even-number tiers (as WG are positively tumescent about CVs and even numbers can include them).
• Having made those predictions, it's a worthwhile exercise to make sure you have at least one ship per relevant tier that you are well practiced in, are effective in, and have a good captain for; give these ships a regular run-out in randoms to keep your skill-set topped up. A bit of diversity is no bad thing either (i.e. more than one choice), to give options if WG do something weird with the mode e.g. the recent Sprint massively favoured brawling BBs, which was a change compared to more normal seasons; my initial performance was dreadful as it took me too long to switch to a more suitable ship.

Basically though, to do well in Ranked (including Sprint, but perhaps less so) you do need to 'git gud', and that may well be a limiting factor (e.g. I'll struggle to ever be much better than sub-average, I suspect); ultimately Ranked rewards are nice, but beyond a certain point one gets into seriously diminishing returns, in relation to the aggravation required.

[Animalul2012]

If you dont feel that you can pass the second league then I advise you to stop cause the "real" ranked and biggest struggle start once you reached ranked 5.

[Ze_Reckless]

 

3 hours ago, arquata2019 said:

game is about luck :D

Damn I'm lucky.

 

2 hours ago, kenalb said:

No Ranked is predetermined by WG, it is just like a vegas slot machine,  WG controlls everything, but claimes that it is random,  and it s a russian game, and russians have never done anything at random,  just accept that.

Damn WG loves me.

[arquata2019_]

3 minuti fa, Ze_Reckless ha scritto:

 

Damn I'm lucky.

 

Damn WG loves me.

wut

also, i just met you in battle today

[Skyllon]

32 minutes ago, Ze_Reckless said:

 

Damn I'm lucky.

Cheater. 

[Lootboxer]

3 hours ago, kenalb said:

i might have claimed this too  much becaouse my game is constantly changing,  like my recovery counter stops, so i cant recover. and mys ship can be citadelled from a hit to my mast,  i mean that if this happens once or twice its likely a glitch , but every game the last 40games  then it is on purpose, and WG is punishing me for telling the truth. 

OMG, man, do you really think that WG has nothing else to do then to constantly try to get you in a game for a  little bull that you are saying?

 

 

[hypsar]

 

 

 

5 hours ago, totosniperofhell said:

But a company should care about fun.

Most people play games for fun, if you have no fun, you don't play it anymore.

fun for different people is a different thing ... some like to paddle around, some like to sound smart in forums, some like some other things ...

dont assume you know what is fun for others

i could tell what is not fun more me but it would bring me another read-only ...

[Pandafaust]

2 hours ago, Ze_Reckless said:

 

Damn I'm lucky.

 

Damn WG loves me.

It's freakish how often WG seems to like good players, whilst hating and reserving bad matchmaking/hackers/poor teammates for people who are shockingly poor at the game...

[WeGreedy]

7 hours ago, totosniperofhell said:

Most people play games for fun

Those people playing for phun are most likely the reason for the bad experience.

[albin322]

10 hours ago, totosniperofhell said:

(no native english speaker)

 

Stared on rank 13 , needed 16 matches for rank 9. win rate 66 %.

 

Well, after that i dropped dead.

No more matches won, 30 matches lost in a row (over some days) ! then up, down. down to 12 up to 9 down to 12... and so on

 

well it SUCKS.

 

i am not the wolrd best player, but iam in the middel of the team..  after match ends always rank 1- 4.

 

i turned away from WoW for one year and i guess it's time to leave it for ever because nothing had changed and looks like it will not change at all.

 

waste of life time .

 

rant ended.

 

 

 

 

your stats are quite bad (no offence) i mean im not gonna stat shame you here but you will not progress if you not getting better. tbh with that winrate the team who gets you is more likley to loose then winn!

[Perekotypole]

Vor 10 Stunden, totosniperofhell sagte:

waste of life time .

 

I fail to understand why do keep playing this game at all, if your winrate is this low. 43%...why? There should certainly be other games one is better at.

[albin322]

7 minutes ago, Perekotypole said:

I fail to understand why do keep playing this game at all, if your winrate is this low. 43%...why? There should certainly be other games one is better at.

ok im gonna deffend the guy a bit. winrate does not mean crap if you dont want it to when it comes to funn factor. hey you can loose all games and still have funn. so for sure i hope he keeps playing but in ranked playing bad is punished.