cv base xp

[albin322]

okay lets start with i dont want any rants about how broken cvs are bla,bla,..... 

 

since this patch!

From Patch Notes on Update 0.8.10:

"The last round of changes to the interactions between aircraft carriers and AA defenses were those introduced in Update 0.8.7. The combat performance indicators of this ship type are the same as those of other ship types, but due to their gameplay peculiarities, carriers tend to earn more XP. As a result of this, we made a decision to change the amount of XP and credits that Tier VIII and Tier X carriers earn:

•  X Midway: –5% to average XP earned and +5% to average amount of credits earned
•  X Hakuryū,  X Audacious: –10% to average XP earned
• All Tier VIII carriers: –10% to average XP earned in battles that ended up in a defeat
• All Tier X carriers: –15% to average XP earned in battles that ended up in a defeat

These changes will also affect the results that carriers demonstrate in Ranked Battles: with the same combat performance shown, the carriers will earn the same amount of XP as other ship types. As a result, the carriers' chances of keeping a star after a defeat will be no higher than those of other ships."

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i never see a cv save the star in ranked i have been able to 1 time durring this season. 

all i ask is if they nerfed the basexp gain to heavy on cvs since its almost imposible to save the star or get to the topp of the scoreboard really. 

 

this is mainly focused on ranked not random.

 

[_HomTanks_]

I've seen CVs saving stars this season or having the most XP in winning team. Seen it with MvR and Midway.

[lossi_2018]

Ridiculous, nonsensical nerf.

I guess you can kill a class (that is very rarely played) this way.

I have yet to see a change to help gameplay since a couple of years now. 

[Beastofwar]

I doubt it very much too.

 

1) When i want to save my star reliably i take a DD......

2) I nearly always see BB in top scoring position, WG's largest customer group. Second most likely class is DD in that position.

3) The only CV i think is at positon 1 scoreboard too much in T8 ranked  is Enterprise......so WG should rebalance that thing and not nerf every other CV.

 

4) Are they going to nerf Massachussets too then ??

[YabbaCoe]

Před 9 minutami albin322 řekl/a:

okay lets start with i dont want any rants about how broken cvs are bla,bla,..... 

 

since this patch!

From Patch Notes on Update 0.8.10:

"The last round of changes to the interactions between aircraft carriers and AA defenses were those introduced in Update 0.8.7. The combat performance indicators of this ship type are the same as those of other ship types, but due to their gameplay peculiarities, carriers tend to earn more XP. As a result of this, we made a decision to change the amount of XP and credits that Tier VIII and Tier X carriers earn:

•  X Midway: –5% to average XP earned and +5% to average amount of credits earned
•  X Hakuryū,  X Audacious: –10% to average XP earned
• All Tier VIII carriers: –10% to average XP earned in battles that ended up in a defeat
• All Tier X carriers: –15% to average XP earned in battles that ended up in a defeat

These changes will also affect the results that carriers demonstrate in Ranked Battles: with the same combat performance shown, the carriers will earn the same amount of XP as other ship types. As a result, the carriers' chances of keeping a star after a defeat will be no higher than those of other ships."

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i never see a cv save the star in ranked i have been able to 1 time durring this season. 

all i ask is if they nerfed the basexp gain to heavy on cvs since its almost imposible to save the star or get to the topp of the scoreboard really. 

 

this is mainly focused on ranked not random.

 

There was no nerf to CVs XP earnings.

I think, the fact if they save a star to be top of the scoreboard really depends on the performance in the battle, also taking account performace of all other teammates. Basically as usual.

As you can see, CV player can be on top of scoreboard in current rankeds.

[DFens_666]

5 minutes ago, albin322 said:

i never see a cv save the star in ranked i have been able to 1 time durring this season. 

 

 

The thing is, you cant really say, CVs dont save stars. I could also say, i havent seen a Smolensk save his star either. If there would be 2-4 CVs per team, a CV would also save his star more often.

 

13 minutes ago, albin322 said:

since this patch!

that was one year ago btw

 

17 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

Ridiculous, nonsensical nerf.

I guess you can kill a class (that is very rarely played) this way. 

So CVs should earn more XP for same performance? see next quote

24 minutes ago, albin322 said:

with the same combat performance shown, the carriers will earn the same amount of XP as other ship types.

 

[Beastofwar]

I may have a clue what that is about though : CV also receive a score contribution in game from spotting. So when they spot and their allies make excellent use of that doing very heavy damage to enemies in the planes view  the indirect damage score of the CV will soar up.  With ranked often being more confined areas of combat = faster/closer action = more damage done in CV planes view.

 

And that is without active action of the CV's own doing like attacking ships itself, which will add up ofcourse. It is quite common for CV to get well over 100+ K of indirect damage attributed to it's score, which it did nothing for to achieve but fly near enemy ships.

 

DD get more score contribution from  damage allies do to enemies upon spotting, but they take far longer to get in position, and often must hide behind view blocking objects making CV  superior in indrect damage earnings.

 

So when nerfed a bit, this will be more in line with direct damage based result scoring of other classes.

 

 

[thisismalacoda]

Vor 45 Minuten, YabbaCoe sagte:

There was no nerf to CVs XP earnings.

I think, the fact if they save a star to be top of the scoreboard really depends on the performance in the battle, also taking account performace of all other teammates. Basically as usual.

As you can see, CV player can be on top of scoreboard in current rankeds.

Surprisingly initial numbers support you with Republique (2738 xp), Yamato and Midway (2683 xp each) as the top three ships for players who ranked out - with very limited data.

 

Still I have my doubts, and it would help if you publish average xp for all four classes, and average xp for all four classes for players who reached Rank 1, once the season is over.

[lossi_2018]

1 hour ago, Beastofwar said:

I doubt it very much too.

 

1) When i want to save my star reliably i take a DD......

2) I nearly always see BB in top scoring position, WG's largest customer group. Second most likely class is DD in that position.

3) The only CV i think is at positon 1 scoreboard too much in T8 ranked  is Enterprise......so WG should rebalance that thing and not nerf every other CV.

 

4) Are they going to nerf Massachussets too then ??

The only truthful and honest post here imo.

[lossi_2018]

1 hour ago, DFens_666 said:

So CVs should earn more XP for same performance?

This is what you got from my words? come on man, if you want to promote something don't use me like that.

[DFens_666]

9 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

This is what you got from my words? come on man, if you want to promote something don't use me like that.

 

Dunno, this forum killed my sense for sarcasm

[El2aZeR]

1 hour ago, Beastofwar said:

CV receive the second highest score contribution in game from spotting, being only second to DD. So when they spot and their allies make excellent use of that doing very heavy damage to enemies in the planes view  the indirect damage score of the CV will soar up.

 

The formula for spotting damage was released quite some time ago.

It contributes practically nothing to earnings even if done to an excessive amount.

 

19 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

The only truthful and honest post here imo.

 

Based on nothing but subjective ramblings.

[lossi_2018]

4 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

 

 

 

Based on nothing but subjective ramblings. 

At least we know your opinion, that's something I guess

[Ocsimano18]

Thing is that you have to work your [edited] off to be first of the team with a CV, at least with the Haku. On the other hand, with some other classes an above average performance is enough. Fire spammers are the easiest class to save a star with, but also it's relatively easy to save a star in a gunboat DD, if you kill two other DDs and take some caps.

[albin322]

6 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

At least we know your opinion, that's something I guess

its not much tough :S

[arquata2019_]

1 ora fa, DFens_666 ha scritto:

 

 

The thing is, you cant really say, CVs dont save stars. I could also say, i havent seen a Smolensk save his star either. If there would be 2-4 CVs per team, a CV would also save his star more often.

 

that was one year ago btw

 

So CVs should earn more XP for same performance? see next quote

 

i saved star many times (i was lucky by the way) with midway and hakuryu

[albin322]

7 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

i saved star many times (i was lucky by the way) with midway and hakuryu

not like this then :( 

yes i lost the star as always we had a thunderer on the backline:(

 

[El2aZeR]

26 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

At least we know your opinion, that's something I guess

 

Imagine thinking that facts are an opinion.

[lossi_2018]

1 minute ago, El2aZeR said:

Imagine thinking that facts are an opinion.

your personal dislike for the man is clouding your judgement.

[albin322]

4 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Imagine thinking that facts are an opinion.

i was just waiting for you to show upp ! 

[El2aZeR]

7 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

your personal dislike for the man is clouding your judgement.

 

Ah, yes, because surely "my personal dislike" changes how spotting damage is calculated. 

You can do a quite simple experiment yourself though. Do a coop match in a CV and do only spotting. Compare that to the score you get if you do little to no spotting and deal damage instead. I'm sure you'll find the difference quite staggering.

[lossi_2018]

12 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Ah, yes, because surely "my personal dislike" changes how spotting damage is calculated. 

You can do a quite simple experiment yourself though. Do a coop match in a CV and do only spotting. Compare that to the score you get if you do little to no spotting and deal damage instead. I'm sure you'll find the difference quite staggering.

El I was not commenting on your discussion with him about spotting dmg.

I was quoted on his thoughts (in his other post here) about other 'more' valuable ships, which I agree.

I have written what I believe about the whole matter above.

[El2aZeR]

7 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

El I was not commenting on your discussion with him about spotting dmg.

 

Then you have missed the point entirely.

 

As for the rest, it is in fact based on nothing but subjective ramblings with no proof or data to back it up. And what is the saying? "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

Unless you want to dispute that?

[Lootboxer]

Nice storm for a patch notes 1 year old. 

[lossi_2018]

25 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Then you have missed the point entirely. 

 

Again, you quoted me answering to him and not the other way around.

Nevermind though, it is of no importance.