Was this not the right move? Considering enemy purple clan

[Puffin_]

 

[Beastofwar]

The higher horse the clan, the less amicable and relaxed the players are......they have ego/reputation to lose......nothing new.

 

Good ram, good choice in naval tradition.

[Lin3]

It was well worth doing, just for triggering that rather rude Kremlin player.

[lafeel]

If it helped your team win the match, it was absolutely the right move.

 

If it didn't, it gets more complicated.

[ForlornSailor]

Kremlin should actually be happy for the trade. If you knew how to brawl & drive by, you would have deleted him and lived. Kremlin wont be able to one shot you from that range, while you have no probs taking a Kremlin out in a brawl.

[pra3y]

From a tactical perspective probably no. Your team was down 1 BB already. Another BB down means your team only has 1 BB left to do the tanking and high roll damage whereas the  the enemy has 2 BBs. You team lose more points too. Had you taken out the PR with your guns while ramming that kremlin than yeah it would be worth it.

 

So unfortunately that kremlin does have a point.

[DFens_666]

Drive-by kill it.

Chances were heavily stacked in your favour, because Kremlins cita is more accessable than yours.

If you are able to pull of drive-by, it feels really rewarding. Most people [edited]it up because they never dare to go for it. But if you try it often enough, you will become good and can even outbrawl other ships which are theoratically better than you.

Brawled a Kremlin in my Yamato and won

Brawled a PR in Stalingrad and won (well technically i didnt die and neither did he, because he is citadel-proof...) but he wasnt able to shoot me.

And those 2 examples are just from a couple of ranked games i played just now. Ive brawled so many ships i dont even remember all

 

Ofc he insulted you, because he was hoping he could kill you with a drive-by.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

The OP's "Montana" guns were turned into other direction and were not able to be used in "drive by".

 

The "Kremlin" guns were turned into good direction to be used in "drive by".

 

Therefore the "Montana" simply had no choice other than ramming... the "drive by" for her was simply not possible...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Skyllon]

8 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

The OP's "Montana" guns were turned into other direction and were not able to be used in "drive by".

The "Kremlin" guns were turned into good direction to be used in "drive by".

Therefore the "Montana" simply had no choice other than ramming... the "drive by" for her was simply not possible...

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Montana had back turrets guns facing port and was able to use those guns to shoot at Kremlin, not to mention had enough time to rotate front turrets as well.

[albin322]

i would not have pushed in like that fro mthe start, good move ? meh, bad move? not rly.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

It was a good choice and bonus points for triggering them

[DFens_666]

9 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

The OP's "Montana" guns were turned into other direction and were not able to be used in "drive by".

 

The "Kremlin" guns were turned into good direction to be used in "drive by".

 

Therefore the "Montana" simply had no choice other than ramming... the "drive by" for her was simply not possible...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Backturrets where in the correct position. Frontturrets needed 90° swing to left. Even Yamato could turn the turrets within almost 2km while going towards him.

 

Ofc you cant decide on a Drive-by when you are touching the bow of the ship, unless you are a Mino or somthing with equal turret speed. But he had atleast 1 minute to prepare his turrets for it.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

15 minutes ago, Skyllon said:

Montana had back turrets guns facing port and was able to use those guns to shoot at Kremlin, not to mention had enough time to rotate front turrets as well.

 

11 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Backturrets where in the correct position. Frontturrets needed 90° swing to left. Even Yamato could turn the turrets within almost 2km while going towards him.

 

Ofc you cant decide on a Drive-by when you are touching the bow of the ship, unless you are a Mino or somthing with equal turret speed. But he had atleast 1 minute to prepare his turrets for it.

 

At the moment of impact the "Montana" guns were pointing at the other side and were not be able to be used in "drive by"!

 

I think that OP in "Montana" wanted to kill the "Puerto Rico" with guns and ram the "Kremlin" since he spotted them... it would have been "Double Strike"...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[ForlornSailor]

28 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

At the moment of impact the "Montana" guns were pointing at the other side and were not be able to be used in "drive by"!

 

2 guys already before pointed out, that there was plenty of time. Did the Kremlin appear out of nowhere right at his bow? no, it didnt. Ofc you make up your mind before you start to push in.

 

55 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

The "Kremlin" guns were turned into good direction to be used in "drive by".

 

Therefore the "Montana" simply had no choice other than ramming... the "drive by" for her was simply not possible...

Montanas Cita is hardly reachable in that brawl situation, while Kremlins cita is right there on the silver place. Kremlin would not have killed the montana even with the guns in perfect waiting position. I use the same advantage when I got brawl BBs with Alaska, f.e.

 

Was a wasted oppotunity, the Kremlin sure was in the worse position, Montana had every chance to take this fight and win it while surviving.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

3 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

2 guys already before pointed out, that there was plenty of time. Did the Kremlin appear out of nowhere right at his bow? no, it didnt. Ofc you make up your mind before you start to push in.

 

Montanas Cita is hardly reachable in that brawl situation, while Kremlins cita is right there on the silver place. Kremlin would not have killed the montana even with the guns in perfect waiting position. I use the same advantage when I got brawl BBs with Alaska, f.e.

 

Was a wasted oppotunity, the Kremlin sure was in the worse position, Montana had every chance to take this fight and win it while surviving.

 

Like I sad before... I think that OP in "Montana" wanted to kill the "Puerto Rico" with guns and ram the "Kremlin" since he spotted them... it would have been "Double Strike"... ne hever intented to fire at "Kremlin"...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[GarrusBrutus]

@Puffin_

Spending all your HP points at the start without having had the possibility to use heals is a huge misplay imo. Sure, you took out one of them as well but for me personally this would always be a misplay.

Why not go like this, engage puerto rico and put the island between you and the kremlin? If the kremlin wants to shoot you he has to push into your four ships on that side. After that you could have made use of the smaller island to turn around into them without exposing your citadel.

[DFens_666]

Just now, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Like I sad before... I think that OP in "Montana" wanted to kill the "Puerto Rico" with guns and ram the "Kremlin" since he spotted them... it would have been "Double Strike"... ne hever intented to fire at "Kremlin"...

 

Ofc then the OP needs to know, you pretty much cant devstrike a PR because it practically has no citadel.

Basicly what @pra3y said: If he could have killed the PR, then the trade would be good. But PR had too much health for that to work out.

[GarrusBrutus]

1 hour ago, Beastofwar said:

The higher horse the clan, the less amicable and relaxed the players are

Hahaha good one you made me laugh. Do you want me to post all the "amicable and relaxed" messages I got from lower league clan and no-clan players?

[Bortasqu]

Dubious positioning of your team mates. But if you're not confident about the driveby, a trade is fine.

[Skyllon]

1 hour ago, GarrusBrutus said:

(...) Do you want me to post all the "amicable and relaxed" messages I got from lower league clan and no-clan players?

I do. <getting popcorn>

[22cm]

14 hours ago, Puffin_ said:

 

Last night, I was in the same situation, however my team was leading, so I could have gone for the ram. Instead, I went for the drive-by, and nuked the enemy Kremlin, securing the win. 

The funny part is that I was in a Conqueror, which is a fat floating citadel, and has weak AP. 

I did set it up properly though, because while closing in I shot only HE at him, like a good old Conqueror is supposed to (he was bow-on anyway, like a good old Kremlin is supposed to), changing ammo only for the last salvo. 

[Gebe_]

Trading 1 for 1 at the start of the game is a terrible decision. You leave the game for your teammates to win/lose (dubious at best) without even having given them any advantage. 

[Yedwy]

@OP No, it wasnt...

 

That doesnt say he had right to be insulting in chat...

[JeanLouisII]

I really dont like the poistion you were at the beginning with your montana and i dont like the move to go through the channel into several enemys.

 

But as played i think the ram is the best thing you could do in that moment.

[FukushuNL]

15 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

@Puffin_

Spending all your HP points at the start without having had the possibility to use heals is a huge misplay imo. Sure, you took out one of them as well but for me personally this would always be a misplay.

Why not go like this, engage puerto rico and put the island between you and the kremlin? If the kremlin wants to shoot you he has to push into your four ships on that side. After that you could have made use of the smaller island to turn around into them without exposing your citadel.

I think you are 100% in the right. At that point in battle throwing it on deleting a BB on both sides without trying to squeeze everything out of the Montana's capabilities is imo also a missplay. Ramming should be a desperation act or to secure the win, not to randomly take out another random target.