[V888] Shagulon Beta Tester 413 posts 32,694 battles Report post #1 Posted September 19, 2020 If you want really bad teams all day, start putting lots of economic flags on - guaranteed unwinnable matches. 5 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hypsar Players 287 posts Report post #2 Posted September 19, 2020 i doubt it. i often fight without any flags and teams are as bad 1 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted September 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Shagulon said: If you want really bad teams all day, start putting lots of economic flags on - guaranteed unwinnable matches. Other people win just fine. 1 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #4 Posted September 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Shagulon said: If you want really bad teams all day, start putting lots of economic flags on - guaranteed unwinnable matches. It is a known parameter Mostly because you are anxious for the win 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V888] Shagulon Beta Tester 413 posts 32,694 battles Report post #5 Posted September 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Other people win just fine. I expect nothing more from a person with such low self-esteem... 6 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said: It is a known parameter Mostly because you are anxious for the win Believe me I am not... I run MM monitor and I can see the PR of the people on both teams, and I am mostly coming top. I am not the reason for these losses... However, I am fully aware of the probability of losing at heads and tails 15 times out of 20 - hence the tin-foil hat reference. I just do not fully believe that a company like WG has such a simple MM algorithm. It is their bread and butter, why would they just throw 24 random people onto teams and cross their fingers that they enjoy the match? 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARRSE] cracktrackflak Weekend Tester 947 posts Report post #6 Posted September 19, 2020 This is why I've never used any of my Mosaic, Asian Lantern or Spring Sky cammos - I know exactly whats going to happen if I do... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Shagulon said: I expect nothing more from a person with such low self-esteem... People with low self-esteem seem to win less. 1 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #8 Posted September 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Shagulon said: I expect nothing more from a person with such low self-esteem... Believe me I am not... I run MM monitor and I can see the PR of the people on both teams, and I am mostly coming top. I am not the reason for these losses... However, I am fully aware of the probability of losing at heads and tails 15 times out of 20 - hence the tin-foil hat reference. I just do not fully believe that a company like WG has such a simple MM algorithm. It is their bread and butter, why would they just throw 24 random people onto teams and cross their fingers that they enjoy the match? Bottom line is that always 50% of players in battle are winners, so... Although indeed game feels now and then as if it's rigged and sets everything against you, there are winning streaks as well. I just don't think about it anymore and play ships that I enjoy. At the end that's the only thing that matters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V888] Shagulon Beta Tester 413 posts 32,694 battles Report post #9 Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, ColonelPete said: People with low self-esteem seem to win less. People with low self esteem try to put other people down to make themselves feel more important - look it up. P.S you win less often than I do... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted September 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shagulon said: People with low self esteem try to put other people down to make themselves feel more important - look it up. P.S you win less often than I do... You should take a look at who is trying to put someone down here And winning more than 97% of the playerbase is not winning less. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V888] Shagulon Beta Tester 413 posts 32,694 battles Report post #11 Posted September 19, 2020 OK Pete, you win. I know you feel you need to. Back to my whimsy topic eh... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #12 Posted September 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, Shagulon said: If you want really bad teams all day, start putting lots of economic flags on - guaranteed unwinnable matches. I've streamed for a friend 2 days ago. 3 solo games in my shoukaku for educational reasons. I put all the flags I could on and won all 3 matches with a combined PR of 4k.I made more than 25k fxp each match. So yeah... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V888] Shagulon Beta Tester 413 posts 32,694 battles Report post #13 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said: I've streamed for a friend 2 days ago. 3 solo games in my shoukaku for educational reasons. I put all the flags I could on and won all 3 matches with a combined PR of 4k.I made more than 25k fxp each match. So yeah... CVs yeah, the God class ship type of WoWS, I concede your point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #14 Posted September 19, 2020 Don't use MM Monitor, it drags you down. It doesn't give you any useful info. Knowing what WR people have is NOT useful info, as with the state of the playerbase, this info affects you and your game. Treat all team mates as gluesniffers, and all enemy teams as unicums. In regards to your tinfoil topic: it's tinfoil material. I haven't noticed an increase in losses whenever i put on my dragon signals. And i used them extensively in the past days. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #15 Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shagulon said: CVs yeah, the God class ship type of WoWS, I concede your point. Since when are 4k PR the normal result for CV games? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V888] Shagulon Beta Tester 413 posts 32,694 battles Report post #16 Posted September 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: Don't use MM Monitor, it drags you down. It doesn't give you any useful info. Knowing what WR people have is NOT useful info, as with the state of the playerbase, this info affects you and your game. Treat all team mates as gluesniffers, and all enemy teams as unicums. In regards to your tinfoil topic: it's tinfoil material. I haven't noticed an increase in losses whenever i put on my dragon signals. And i used them extensively in the past days. It is possible yes, but there are plenty of days running MM monitor and winning most matches that this is debatable. Certainly a sensible point well made though. It is rare that I get my pre-match initial prediction wrong, but yes it does happen at least once per day. Perhaps I could have won some matches I thought I would lose. I'll give it a go. May I ask, do you play solo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #17 Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, cracktrackflak said: This is why I've never used any of my Mosaic, Asian Lantern or Spring Sky cammos - I know exactly whats going to happen if I do... Best place to use em were Operations back when they still gave decent XP. Nowadays, i think Clanbrawl might be the best mode to use em, if you can consistently win. Clanbattles work aswell, but not as good as Brawl imo. Ofc you can say, Randoms might give more baseXP than the 2500 from Clan modes, but its much more inconsistent overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaCommanderGice Players 307 posts 23,583 battles Report post #18 Posted September 19, 2020 Pls put that hat on and make me laugh :P 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #19 Posted September 19, 2020 55 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: Treat all team mates as gluesniffers, and all enemy teams as unicums. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #20 Posted September 19, 2020 TBH I think WG should ban MM Monitor it just causes more grief than anything been on the receiving end of being focused due to it, was fairly obvious, when grinding the Albemarle I had a GK that essentially sat and waited with his guns loaded for minutes just to shoot me not like the Albemarle is such a super strong scary ship when bottom tier. Also was focused in the Drake when angled at about 17km by a Missouri while he ignored the broadside NC 6km in front of him... Yep adds nothing just assume every match is you vs 23 which is why divisioning is so good it makes it 3 vs 21 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaCommanderGice Players 307 posts 23,583 battles Report post #21 Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chaos_Umbra said: TBH I think WG should ban MM Monitor it just causes more grief than anything been on the receiving end of being focused due to it, was fairly obvious, when grinding the Albemarle I had a GK that essentially sat and waited with his guns loaded for minutes just to shoot me not like the Albemarle is such a super strong scary ship when bottom tier. Also was focused in the Drake when angled at about 17km by a Missouri while he ignored the broadside NC 6km in front of him... Yep adds nothing just assume every match is you vs 23 which is why divisioning is so good it makes it 3 vs 21 Agree, not knowing how good or bad the enemy team is beter for my bloodpressure i pressume. Besides who cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #22 Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chaos_Umbra said: TBH I think WG should ban MM Monitor Yes, MMM should be banned, but i dunno how they could do it? It just accesses external stat-tracking pages to show you the info - technically you could do that yourself, only you cant do it fast enough before the game starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #23 Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Shagulon said: It is possible yes, but there are plenty of days running MM monitor and winning most matches that this is debatable. Certainly a sensible point well made though. It is rare that I get my pre-match initial prediction wrong, but yes it does happen at least once per day. Perhaps I could have won some matches I thought I would lose. I'll give it a go. May I ask, do you play solo? Yes, i do play solo. I have 11.3k random battles, and ~260 were played in division, so, not really a DIV player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #24 Posted September 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Shagulon said: Believe me I am not You are way stronger than me then, cuz subconsciously I get nervous :) but I respect your opinion and the time you spend in game counts for something for me. Honestly I felt victimized as well at times and on certain dates, solved it by playing less and less and now when I dip in I have fantastic MM for whatever reason haha :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #25 Posted September 19, 2020 I'd rather play a 200k dmg loss with my eco flags on than a 30k dmg win. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
