the grind is getting to me

[Butterdoll]

I may need some assistance, I'm starting to feel I'm hitting a wall.

Yes, i have more than 10 k battles , it's not from that.

Yes, i have ships with which i played several hundreds battles with, it's not from that 

yes, i  t burned out twice, it's not from that either, i'm not feeling angry or frustrated, I'm fine.

 

I'm trying to do the collection, i'm at stage 3, the number of stars need it to unlock the final mission is increasing, the missions are the same, XP or credits.

Since i can remember was the type of mission that i had the most difficulty with, now i'm forced to repeat the same missions already finished due to lack of ships required to do other missions.

I already did 50 k xp ad 40k xp at stage 2, did at stage 3 and i have to do it again. The next stages have the same 

 

FFS, it's just a collection, it's not Puerto Rico.

 

At a certain point I find it extremely monotone, repetitive...boring.

 

I'm a casual player i used to make an hundred battles or so a week in my first 5k battles or around that, now depending how demanding the workweek is i can go as low as 4 or 5 battles a week.

 

Instead of having fun it's just demoralizing.

 

Normally i only feel this at the end of hallo ops, after one or two months playing exclusively that (last year with Igor alone i did well over 200 battles)

 

How can i mitigate this?

 

thank you. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

Stop wanting unimportant things from a game made by a company that specifically tailors it to take advantage of some weaknesses in your mind. Go do something fun instead. Music, art, reading, a movie. 

[Admiral_Oily_Discharge]

2 minutes ago, Butterdoll said:

How can i mitigate this?

Grinding requires players to assume the time and effort will generate a good reward but obviously doing a certain thing ovar and ovar gets boring quickly cos of repetition . You might wanna diversify your portfolio and try other aaa titles for a change ...

 

[COPlUM]

Play another game for a couple days, you'll get back when you actually want to make ships go boom, playing for the grind is dumb anyway, you don't need 100 ships. If you need a grind to feel like you're making progress, there's many grinds in the game without a time limit, try the new low tier campaign, you can finish it at your own pace and you'll play different tiers/ships in the process.

[lossi_2018]

I'm at 2 battles a month, I just don't play anymore. Grind missions are killing the game for the over 10k games crowd imo.

[lafeel]

1 hour ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

Play another game for a couple days, you'll get back when you actually want to make ships go boom, playing for the grind is dumb anyway, you don't need 100 ships. If you need a grind to feel like you're making progress, there's many grinds in the game without a time limit, try the new low tier campaign, you can finish it at your own pace and you'll play different tiers/ships in the process.

This, so very much this @Butterdoll at least this is how I keep myself going, not sure how well it'd work for you as these things can vary considerably from person to person.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just stop focusing on the grind and play without it in mind. it will complete itself. 

[Camperdown]

5 hours ago, Europizza said:

Stop wanting unimportant things from a game made by a company that specifically tailors it to take advantage of some weaknesses in your mind. Go do something fun instead. Music, art, reading, a movie. 

This.

 

I have been burned out by this game once and did not play it for a year. Currently I sense a bit of that again myself.

 

To enjoy WoWs you have to think what are your goals, not WGs. And you have to accept you cannot grind everything, cause it will burn you out. 

 

Stop your current grind or slow down. Play what you really enjoy and do what the Pizza says.

 

Have fun!

[britinmadrid]

6 hours ago, Butterdoll said:

At a certain point I find it extremely monotone, repetitive...boring.

You and everyone else!

 

6 hours ago, Admiral_Oily_Discharge said:

Grinding requires players to assume the time and effort will generate a good reward but obviously doing a certain thing ovar and ovar gets boring quickly cos of repetition .

Wise words! A 'good reward' is one which you value personally ... one which justifies repetitive gameplay. I complete most grinds in this game as I play with and chat to friends and the grind is almost a distraction in the background. However, some rewards have been so poor and/or meaningless to me I'd never consider completing them, e.g. the current Transformer pile of manure. If you enjoy it, great! If not, give it a miss.

 

You may wish to consider not listening to the game on full volume and having a podcast on in the background?

[Butterdoll]

6 hours ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

try the new low tier campaign, you can finish it at your own pace and you'll play different tiers/ships in the process.

It's that campaign, i'm talking about.

 

7 hours ago, Europizza said:

Stop wanting unimportant things from a game made by a company that specifically tailors it to take advantage of some weaknesses in your mind. Go do something fun instead. Music, art, reading, a movie. 

That differs from person to person, i'm ok not getting everything for a long time now.

I'm just doing the collection at the moment, nothing more

 i'm doing that already, usually works but not when I'm focus  doing a thing, and my stamina is dropping and dropping .

 

2 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Just stop focusing on the grind and play without it in mind. it will complete itself. 

that's so true.

 

[DFens_666]

29 minutes ago, Butterdoll said:

I'm just doing the collection at the moment, nothing more

 

Id ignore the campaign since its permanent, so you will complete it at some point.

I completed the Polish captain campaign aswell, despite really working on it. Just repated the grind missions over and over with Clanbrawls and co, since id heavy flag in those game modes regardless if i have a grind missions or not.

 

Ofc we just have the +200% daily win bonus, which makes XP missions much easier

 

So either ignore it completely, and play if you feel like it, or focus on some other missions where you will do the campaign on the side automatically.

[anonym_cOm3uxApUSdG]

Vor 9 Stunden, Butterdoll sagte:

FFS, it's just a collection, it's not Puerto Rico.

At a certain point I find it extremely monotonous, repetitive ... boring.

I'm a casual gamer who I fought in my first 5k battles, or something like a hundred battles a week. Depending on how demanding the work week is, I can now drive up to 4 or 5 battles per week.

Instead of having fun, it's just demoralizing.

Hello,

Everyone has such "phases".

 

Taking a step back usually helps.
But WoWs can be like a "drug" with all of its ill effects.
After looking at your profile, here are some things I would recommend that could help you "have fun with / with WoWs" again.

 

1. Crap from your port. Only keep what you play regularly.

2. You have different ship lines that you can still play high.

3. Find a new task that is worthwhile but does not put any pressure on you.

4. A second account as a € 0 account is certainly interesting. To do this, play in co-op (like a beginner). With your previous experience you have "undreamt-of possibilities" with this account, especially since you can actively shape the WinRate.

5. Start a previously neglected country and target it.

6th tip and my favorite:

 

Play T1!

 

This is no longer just for beginners.
An example:

 

 

 

Everyone sees fun as something different!

My Hermline is currently in a difficult position. WR = 56%

 

 

But it's really fun to insist on T1.
Especially since I regularly generate 1-2 containers and 30-50 signals on the side

On T1, 19 captains (at least 10) are more the norm.
It's hard work getting on with T1.
There are also 3 departments on T1

I hope there is one possibility or another that is worth considering.

Best regards

(created with goole translator)

[SkollUlfr]

games are fun.

grinds are work.

are you getting paid?

[Birkebein]

Aside from the "addiction" that is any game... games we play are the ones that mean something to us, we connect with them and we play certain games because of that connection.  My reasons for playing WoWs might be the same as someone else's, but I'm sure there's no main reason for playing the game.

 

So... when WG succeeds in getting me to play the game for their reasons (grinds/buying into other brands etc) then I feel burnt out almost straight away, but when they cater to my interests (history and real ships etc) then I remain positively engaged.  The difficulty is that WG has many players with diverse interests and their own needs as a profit oriented company.

 

To conclude some days, for me, there simply aren't many valid reasons to play and my challenge is to remain focused on content that I connect to, something that's meaningful to me...

 

PS for me, grinding/investing in any of the following will burn me out as I don't connect with it: Transformers... never saw the movies, it was all "after my time"...  Anime characters/captains of disturbing proportions makes me feel distinctly uncomfortable.  Fantasy ships/technology/action etc (why, there's so much "real" content worth showcasing). 

[Beastofwar]

If you cannot bear to play a task or objective without getting bored it is simply not important enough. It is life time you are spending there, you never get that back....it has got to be worth it.

 

Speaking for myself  there are a lot of "rewards" that now bob in port unused or are in the ships but see no special action compared to other captains.

 

AND i have about 180 ships wich must not be the largest collection players have but it is already so many that a lot of those ships don't see action in months or years unless to knock off a "snowflake". I have reset 5 lines for the RB points and i don't even recongnise the lower tier ships exteriors anymore i once played.  Unused ships or ships you don't even recognise ( or can't recall their exact strong points and weak points and have to experience that all over again each match  )  means these ships were not worth the time, money or ingame currency they have cost.

 

Putting in a lot of effort to get a reward is purely the psycholgy of fearing you miss out on something. I still hate missing the Benham for example because i was on a vacation. But when i would have it, how much action would it really get among 180 other ships ? I had quite the collection of planes in WT too.....but at some point the drag of getting more and more was too much. They never really changed the maps/targets/mode either and just kept adding more and more vehicles.

 

 

[Skyllon]

14 hours ago, Butterdoll said:

FFS, it's just a collection, it's not Puerto Rico.

Neither is worth the time spent in this game.

If you don't enjoy games, just don't play. If you do regardless, it means WG has it's tentacles deep inside your brain.

[Admiral_Oily_Discharge]

4 hours ago, britinmadrid said:

If you enjoy it, great! If not, give it a miss.

Nicely put .

[K82J]

When i " burn out " a bit from online games, i switch to single player ones for a few days, usually works for me. Currently bought Iron Harvest, currently i play that 1-2 hour when i'm not in the mood to bother with the Dockyard.

 

Probably i gonna play way less WoWS when CP 2077 is released finally.

[Butterdoll]

1 hour ago, Skyllon said:

Neither is worth the time spent in this game.

If you don't enjoy games, just don't play. If you do, it means WG has it's tentacles deep in your brain.

I enjoy collections, i enjoy history, i enjoy discovering , to make  researches about a subject i don't  know much about.

Despite being a history buff, i never looked to the seas in the II WW period

Infantry, cavalry, air force, and so on, but the navy was left behind.

Collections are a great vehicle for that.

 

@Beastofwar

 

I have 73 ships, so far. I don't miss not getting ships or anything in those lines.... collection, historic collections on the other hand...

2 hours ago, Beastofwar said:

  Unused ships or ships you don't even recognise ( or can't recall their exact strong points and weak points and have to experience that all over again each match  )  means these ships were not worth the time, money or ingame currency they have cost.

yet true for the majority of them, it's not true for all of them

I hated a particular ship, slow, highly inaccurate, useless, it was a port queen for more than a year, even blocked the progression in that line.

I went and returned ...now ? It's my most reliable ship and it will pulverize Buddy's record.

I like it so much, that i asked for more in a couple of threads and thanks to @Sunleader

Not only i know what i want but also  started to research about that subject.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MadBadDave]

12 hours ago, Europizza said:

Go do something fun instead

Ohh yesss I am, poor old bots always the whipping boys, btw why no non Binary / non gender names 🤔.    
 

For first time I’m actually smiling when playing the game, trying to help reds win is a blast, it should be a new mode 😉.

[Jvd2000]

13 hours ago, Butterdoll said:

 

I'm trying to do the collection, i'm at stage 3, the number of stars need it to unlock the final mission is increasing, the missions are the same, XP or credits.

Since i can remember was the type of mission that i had the most difficulty with, now i'm forced to repeat the same missions already finished due to lack of ships required to do other missions.

I already did 50 k xp ad 40k xp at stage 2, did at stage 3 and i have to do it again. The next stages have the same 

 

FFS, it's just a collection, it's not Puerto Rico.

 

At a certain point I find it extremely monotone, repetitive...boring.

 

I'm a casual player i used to make an hundred battles or so a week in my first 5k battles or around that, now depending how demanding the workweek is i can go as low as 4 or 5 battles a week.

 

Instead of having fun it's just demoralizing.

 

Think you mean the 5 epoch collection. Since you already at the 3 rd round you already went full speed for this collection. At the same time when there are more time limited events going on that are not that comparable with this mission. Especially the first ( and slightly the second) tiers when you are required to grind work in tiers that do not contribute to your other efforts. 
 

1. take your time. The collection does not go anywhere. 
2. from tier 3 on you play 5-8 tier, enabling to do other events together.

3. As you get higher in tiers the specific mission requiring special ships should get easier since you probably keep more of them in port.

4. Some if the missions mentioned at 3 are easy. 20 torp/ fire hits, 150k torp dmg.
5. Just do the 3 top missions that give a crate once and then focus on the easiest special ship missions.

[Skyllon]

2 hours ago, Butterdoll said:

I enjoy history.

WG games are hardly place for history buffs.

 

Sure there is lot of information in one place, but most of it is shallow and you still need other sources to deepen your knowledge.

And collections? I'd regard that as trivia. And that would be compliment.

History needs a context and WG games don't give you that.

[GarrusBrutus]

Imagine spending the whole day at work doing tasks for money only to come home to do more task but this time without getting paid for it.

Its a game. Enjoy it. You dont like to grind? Dont. You dont like to play ranked? Dont. etc.

[rage1750]

Spoiler

 

7 hours ago, phambili said:

Play T1!

 

But how will OP manage to grind the campaign then? 

Needs to be tier 2-4 

 

On a serious note:

Look after your own mental health OP especially during these times, have a look online for support if you feel you need it 

And what others have said, put WOWs down and go do something else for a few days, you have all the time in the world to complete this campaign.

Best wishes

[Maris_Piper]

I thought to myself WTF am I doing after reading a post a couple of days ago along similar lines, I'm doing missions for things I don't really want,and with several on the go at once, For me it's time to take stock and slow things down, With the American BB split on the horizon I thought nows a good time, Books from Kindle and a few movies and maybe a spot of fishing, and lets see what comes after, I'm sure that WG have something Wonderfull all lined up.