When will you nerf Kitakaze WG??

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

It outperforms Harugumo in literally every way. And those sweaty kita captains know that very well. You can't have hard hitting torps and guns in one package.

[Commander_Ericson]

Except it has the same torps and out DPM's the Kita as it has 1 more turret....sure it has down sides, but armament wise the Harugumo is stronger

[Animalul2012]

IF it was soviet it would have been nerfed 5 times by now but because it is not then we have to deal with it. WHY? Because only soviets deserve nerfs, they got the most brain dead OP ships in the game like Khabarovsk, Other nations have weak ships and deserve only buffs.Thunderer,OHIO,HINDEBURG,Des moines,z-46,Salem,massachusets,giulio cesare,belfast,daring,kamikaze,shikishima,yamato,richtofen,benham,somers,alaska,bourgogne,kleber and the list can go on all of these ships....can be soloed by the might of the soviet navy. Heck just trow slava with Kuznetzov and she will citadel them every salvo right from the bow, every time each hit is a citadel...9 hits 9 citadels. 

BUFF THUNDERER AND OHIO THEY ARE WEAK, NERF KHABAROVSK IT IS TO FAST. 

Anyway when the RU community said the WG has something against soviet ships I guess they were 90% right when theyre OP ships get nerfed left and right by global changes and rely way to much on the enemy being a potato while...Thunderer has better rudder shift than a destroyer and name me 3 weakness of it and OHIO? I can list here 5 massive weaknesses regarding SLAVA but I can barely find 1 for thunderer or OHIO. 

They will not nerf Kitakaze the EU will not ask for it and they will listen because I guess in the end the EU provides the most income for them and again it does not fly a soviet or russian flag.

 

[kapnobathrac]

Well kita has one less turret  but better MM. cause of this kitakaze is more fun. Rather play Friesland or kitakaze than harugumo

[Miscommunication_dept]

Kita is a beast  but I think it brings dpm  while others bring better utility.

 

I'm not sure it needs a nerf.

[ColonelPete]

25 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said:

They will not nerf Kitakaze the EU will not ask for it ...

And I thought this was the EU forum... 

[thisismalacoda]

Vor 24 Minuten, Animalul2012 sagte:

Thunderer,OHIO,HINDEBURG,Des moines,z-46,Salem,massachusets,giulio cesare,belfast,daring,kamikaze,shikishima,yamato,richtofen,benham,somers,alaska,bourgogne,kleber and the list can go on

 

Indeed. That's the reason for the 'Abandon all hope ye who enter here' in the loading screen when faced with the might of a fully armed and operational Hindeburg (sic), Z-46, Salem or Yamato. Especially the unstoppable, cold-blooded killer that is Z-46, oh the horror.

[fumtu]

Even tho I don't want to see Kita nerfed as it is such a great ship, IMO WG should bring its concealment to Akizuki level. 5.9km is simply to good, 6.1km would be more appropriate. And that is the only change it needs. But I hope they don't change anything.

 

 

[Animalul2012]

17 minutes ago, thisismalacoda said:

Indeed. That's the reason for the 'Abandon all hope ye who enter here' in the loading screen when faced with the might of a fully armed and operational Hindeburg (sic), Z-46, Salem or Yamato. Especially the unstoppable, cold-blooded killer that is Z-46, oh the horror.

YOU have no Idea how strong that thing is when you slap Gunther Lutjenst on it and turn it on a gun boat. 

Here have some idea from someone who own the seconds highest damage record with z-46.

 

[GulvkluderGuld]

1 hour ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

It outperforms Harugumo in literally every way. 

Reality check:

Harugumo has 25% more guns and DPM, more HP and the same torpedoes and consumables.

Kitakaze has higher top speed, better turning circle and acceleration, better MM (full tier 9 games = no CVs) and is a smaller ship.

 

Essentially Harugumo is a more powerful and less positionally forgiving ship than kitakaze.

However, current last 2 month WR according to maplsyrup:

Almost all tier 8+ silver DDs< 50% and almost all tier 8+ premium DDs > 50%.

Kitakaze has 52%

Harugumo has 48%

Asashio has 53%

 

Clearly WG should nerf the only silver DD actually performing better than 50% instead of buffing the rest. Oh wait, its WG. *incoming buff to CVs instead*

[Zemeritt]

6 minutes ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

Reality check:

Harugumo has 25% more guns and DPM, more HP and the same torpedoes and consumables.

Kitakaze has higher top speed, better turning circle and acceleration, better MM (full tier 9 games = no CVs) and is a smaller ship.

 

Don't forget that Haru also eats AP-Pens from BBs.

 

Still no need to nerf the Kita.

[rage1750]

I got touched by a Kitakaze, nerf it from orbit rabble rabble rabble.

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

Just now, rage1750 said:

I got touched by a Kitakaze, nerf it from orbit rabble rabble rabble.

found the sweaty one.

[lossi_2018]

good Lord

[Migantium_Mashum]

1 hour ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

It outperforms Harugumo in literally every way. And those sweaty kita captains know that very well. You can't have hard hitting torps and guns in one package.

I'm a Kita Captain... she isn't an easy DD to master.. she has poor concealment compared to almost all other DD's and she may have many guns with a fast reload but she isn't a speed train if you need to disengage... so if you're a Shima with 8km 80 knot torpedoes and 5.6km concealment, the Yugumo with TRB or a Halland with 95 knot torpedoes Kita does not have the advantage in close combat...

 

If you're silly enough to get within range then what do you expect?

 

I have some soothing ointment for wherever the Kitakaze touched you...

[rage1750]

8 minutes ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

found the sweaty one.

Watch out boiis, we have a good one here, probably a future submarine captain.

I dont like rage1750 opinion, I want a deathstar strike on the Kitakaze that touched me 

 

Spoiler

 

Make an agreeable post or OP will make sure that you end up like my 5 day old posts 

 

 

[eliastion]

1 hour ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

It outperforms Harugumo in literally every way. And those sweaty kita captains know that very well. You can't have hard hitting torps and guns in one package.

Kitakaze is extremely powerful (and stronger than Harugumo tier for tier) but you don't seem to grasp the reasons for that at all.

1. Harugumo is actually more powerful than Kitakaze. Problem is - this power comes at a price of concealment. That's the main difference between the two and the main reason why the raw power of Harugumo doesn't feel quite as, well, powerful in practice.

2. Kitakaze gains a lot by being t9 rather than t10. T9 has quite a few honestly underwhelming ships, so Kitakaze benefits from being mirrored by "some random t9 DD" as opposed to a t10 one.

3. Kitakaze has "hard hitting torps" (just like Harugumo, btw) but that's still just one launcher. It's certainly great to have them but even accounting for the TRB, Kitakaze is no hybrid.

 

It's not that Kitakaze is better than Harugumo at doing Harugumo things. She's nowhere near "outperforming HArugumo in literall every way". It's just that Kitakaze is more versatile, capable of doing many DD things that aren't really available to the more specialized Harugumo. This, of course, is a very welcome quality for players who know their stuff and can adjust to situation, giving them more control over the flow of the battle. As a result, yes, Kitakaze in the right hands is outright terrifying. But all that comes precisely from being "not quite Harugumo" rather than "better Harugumo".

[IJN_Mikasa]

Vor 9 Stunden, Eagle_Six_TR sagte:

It outperforms Harugumo in literally every way. And those sweaty kita captains know that very well. You can't have hard hitting torps and guns in one package.

Thanks, then I can stop grinding Harugumo and get my Kita the shiny Epoch camo? 

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, IJN_Mikasa said:

Thanks, then I can stop grinding Harugumo and get my Kita the shiny Epoch camo? 

You dont already own a Kita permacamo? You heathen!

[Miscommunication_dept]

1 hour ago, IJN_Mikasa said:

Thanks, then I can stop grinding Harugumo and get my Kita the shiny Epoch camo? 

I'm also putting it on my Kita as the Aki and Kita are where I spend most time when grinding research points.

[Yedwy]

11 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

I'm also putting it on my Kita as the Aki and Kita are where I spend most time when grinding research points.

What you dont own one either?

 

[Commander_Ericson]

1 hour ago, gopher31 said:

I'm also putting it on my Kita as the Aki and Kita are where I spend most time when grinding research points.

I've been using the line for the same grind and did put a previous free permanent camo on the kita. But I never use it because the XP bonus is the same as any t9 permanent camo, which isn't as high as a lot of the single use camos and when you're grinding, XP is all that matters.

[Yedwy]

I am currently regrinding the IJN gunships as well, should get Kita back in like an hour or so however I do think it will be my last regrind of that line, this time I ll just keep them handy for Ranks and stuff...

[RambaRal]

17 hours ago, Animalul2012 said:

***SNIP SNIP***  WHY? Because only soviets deserve nerfs ***SNIP SNIP***

 

Considering the bigger picture, I cannot stop laughing at this sentence.

That said, Khaba could use some reworking, considering that French DDs do everything she did in the past.

That said again, yeah, let's sink one of the few working Japanese ships ingame: going back to the bigger picture again, remember that IJN has taken far more shafts than RU navy, so your rant results a bit ridiculous.

[Humorpalanta]

11 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

 

If you're silly enough to get within range then what do you expect?

I am running my Harugomo with 17.5 km range. I have seen BBs turning away and trying to get out of range and asking in chat then just becoming a sub (to me, muhahaha)

 

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