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Welcome to the world of most Alpha and Supertesters Figment.

 

And yeah, I really cower in fear thinking about the time when OBT comes. We may not be able to hold all breaches.


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So uhm. Ever heard of the Independence? Saipan? Essex? Hirju? Hosho?

 

Personally I think its a great omission, that we only have one carrier in the game from the greatest battle of them all: Midway

 

Hiryu is here for its class, so that covers Soryu.

But where are the 2 big ones, Akagi and Kaga?

Akagi was Nagumos flagship at both Pearl Harbour and Midway, making it an obvious choice for a premuim too.

 

And where are the US carriers that if not won the war, then stopped the Japanese untill the Essex and Indepence classes came flooding in their great numbers?

The Yourktown class is completely missing !

Yourktown, who was patched together after Coral Sea, and sunk at Midway.

Hornet, who should be here for the Doolittle raid alone. Btw can we get B-25s in our airgroup :)

And last but not least ofc the big E for Enterprise. The true legend of the pacific campaign. Listing this ships achievements should be unnessesary. And it will ofc be available later as a moneygrab premium because of some second rate scifi show, when it should be front and center on its real merits!

"The world wonders"

 

 

Edited by Djansolo

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The true legend of the pacific campaign...

 

That will be premium or reward ship.


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That will be premium or reward ship.

Ofc it will, the whole concept of premiums makes it the most obvious choice.

But that doesnt mean we sould not get the Yourktownn class in the normal tree.

But maybe that will come at a much later date, when the expand the CV tree to two different branches CV and CVE/CVL.

I can understand if thats not a priority for WG, and I would rather have more nations, than more trees in current nations.


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Hiryu is here for its class, so that covers Soryu.

 

Just wanted to point out the Hiryuu and Soryuu are 2 different, single ship, classes. Yeah, they sound a lot like they are the same class but Hiryuu is an improved Soryuu.

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It was perfect......

 

 

until this:

 

So uhm... I'm afraid to ask. Do you also remember these names: Clemson? Mogami? Kuma? Nicholas? Umikaze? Mahan?

 

 

...No? What? No. No, they're not forms of sushi or shellfish. They're destroyers.

:sceptic:

You were spot on on most stuff so +1 :honoring:


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Just wanted to point out the Hiryuu and Soryuu are 2 different, single ship, classes. Yeah, they sound a lot like they are the same class but Hiryuu is an improved Soryuu.

I stand corrected. Always just thought of them as the same.


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I agree with the premise. The game needs to be renamed "World of Battleships" and all other ship classes removed! It's for the best, trust me!:P

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It was perfect......

 

 

until this:

 

:sceptic:

You were spot on on most stuff so +1 :honoring:

Ah sorry, yeah. Restructured the post, initial phrasing contained light cruisers with torps too, but decided to focus that alinea more on destroyers and work up to a climax of BB fear with torps being revealed. :) Sorry about that. Fixed! Thanks for pointing it out. :)

 

You are not new to this, are you.

 

Sadly no. I would not have my straightforward abbrasive posting style if I still had patience for these people. But a few decades of online gaming, development forums and project groups in several engineering studies at university teaches you otherwise.

Edited by Figment

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it took me about 30 minutes to read the whole thing, but it was f***ing awesome!

 

this deserves a sticky

or even better idea

make this text an intro movie in the game (rolling like star wars movie intro text! (with epic music))


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So uhm. Ever heard of the Independence? Saipan? Essex? Hirju? Hosho?

 

Personally I think its a great omission, that we only have one carrier in the game from the greatest battle of them all: Midway

 

Hiryu is here for its class, so that covers Soryu.

But where are the 2 big ones, Akagi and Kaga?

Akagi was Nagumos flagship at both Pearl Harbour and Midway, making it an obvious choice for a premuim too.

 

And where are the US carriers that if not won the war, then stopped the Japanese untill the Essex and Indepence classes came flooding in their great numbers?

The Yourktown class is completely missing !

Yourktown, who was patched together after Coral Sea, and sunk at Midway.

Hornet, who should be here for the Doolittle raid alone. Btw can we get B-25s in our airgroup :)

And last but not least ofc the big E for Enterprise. The true legend of the pacific campaign. Listing this ships achievements should be unnessesary. And it will ofc be available later as a moneygrab premium because of some second rate scifi show, when it should be front and center on its real merits!

"The world wonders"

 

 

They were used in a one-off operation and couldn't land back on the ship the launched from. This is the absurdity the OP satired in Battleship players.

 

Otherwise USS Enterprise will be premium, since it wasn't a class. The standard ship will be the Yorktown. Probably will come at the same tier as the Lexingtons, maybe part of a second CV tree for the USN,

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So very true, and so I had to give you a +1 Figment.

I don't like playing Carriers, but I don't think they are OP, UP or rubbish. Its just that I personally don't enjoy the RTS style gameplay. I do respect a good Carrier Jock though.

I know it seems like we're drowning in BBs at the moment, but that's only happened because of the newly released US line rather than a one-track-mind interest in BBs and nothing else by players. Just before 0.3.1 came out, I'd say most battles were approximately 1-2 CVs, 2-4 BBs and the rest CAs, CLs and DDs. Once people "get over" (ie get to tiers VI - VIII) with them, they'll rediscover those Clevelands and Aobas decorating their Harbours.

 

And if there are players who "only" want to play BBs, then time and battles is the best cure. Eventually they'll start getting owned by rather elite CA and DD Captains. Then BB Captains will be seen tentatively nosing their way out of harbour in their dusty and rust-streaked tier II CLs and DDs.

ALTHOUGH.... Because this is to some degree an Arcade over Simulator style of game, BBs will always be much stronger (just think of WoT and the Heavy Tanks - the dinosaurs of land warfare out-evolved by the medium > MBT line, yet all powerful because its "real" natural predators, ie Airstrikes, Infantry, HEAVY and adjusted Artillery fire, are absent.). When Clan Wars/Team Battles finally arrive for WoWS, then we'll learn if the same WoT meta holds true here or if there will be some other kind (like maybe DD spam with Scout plane and large caliber-armed CAs and CVs in support).


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I reserve judgment until the the end of OBT/beginning of release coupled with an outline of their plan for next tech tree/ships.  As it stands in CBT i feel its the system, servers, mechanics, balance and laods of other testing behind the scenes that they are focussing on.  All of the great ships will make an appearance (how can they not) in order for this to be successful, I read half your rant and stopped as its just a rant and your ranting at a c l o s e d beta game about things that will be changed, its not as if this is going to be the final release.  WG DO LISTEN to us and constructive criticism is appreciated.  I like the fact you put so much effort into your post so +1 for that.


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Nice post. :honoring:

 

What will happen if WG makes WoBB and WoHT battle modes?

Or should it be WoCV and WoMT? 


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I reserve judgment until the the end of OBT/beginning of release coupled with an outline of their plan for next tech tree/ships.  As it stands in CBT i feel its the system, servers, mechanics, balance and laods of other testing behind the scenes that they are focussing on.  All of the great ships will make an appearance (how can they not) in order for this to be successful, I read half your rant and stopped as its just a rant and your ranting at a c l o s e d beta game about things that will be changed, its not as if this is going to be the final release.  WG DO LISTEN to us and constructive criticism is appreciated.  I like the fact you put so much effort into your post so +1 for that.

 

You missed the point, the "rant" as you call it wasn't at WG, it was aimed at closed-minded negative players who focus on the "bwahahaha STOMP STOMP" class and think everything else should be subservient to their desire to rofl-stomp their way through the game. Although, love the fact you get a bit ranty at the OP (including CAPITALS and Italics and s  p  a  c  e  s - didn't you have any love for Bold?) when the OP never ranted at you XD

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Sadly no. I would not have my straightforward abbrasive posting style if I still had patience for these people. But a few decades of online gaming, development forums and project groups in several engineering studies at university teaches you otherwise.

 

I have production and stage managed some quite large events. I didnt have any patience before doing it!


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It's arrived at a point where i think the lack of balance of the ships is quite evident. It's no longer useful deluding myself that Battleships are not the main role of a game and Cruisers are unlikely to carry or affect the game in a big way, Destroyers are faced with heavy nerfs to mobility and CVs a re in this very weird spot.

 

I get it though. There might be reason as to why WG is doing this. Think of another game, like Team F*******. They have different characters and different roles, each having to ply their own trade to be victorious. It's not about the gameplay so much as it's about the way it's being rewarded. If WG wanted cruisers to be relegated to escort ships that could not measure up to battleships, then by all means, do it. Just find a way to give credit to a player for playing the ships the way you envision them. So what if battleships are the main focus of the seas. If playing a cruiser gets you great rewards when you play it right, as you do in a destroyer (without all the crazy nerfs maybe) then they should get credit for doing so. As it stands, if a cruiser defends a battleship, he does not get to do much except shoot destroyers that wander too close, or lay down more hurt on a ship the BB is already firing at. These help, but it's seriously not much fun in a random queue single player game. I love playing cruiser ships as escorts, but that's just me. As ever since the new armour mechanics have landed, I have yet to touch a cruiser.


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15 plus losses in a row yesterday/Wednesday, outnumbered in 9 of those games so the gods of MM and rng are having fun with me at the moment and I'm still smiling after reading this :teethhappy: 

 

+1 to the OP for making an old sailor chuckle and remember it's all just for fun! 

 

It also helps me smile that despite the losses my average damage has gone up by over 1000 a game, got to love the Minekaze :P


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ALTHOUGH.... Because this is to some degree an Arcade over Simulator style of game, BBs will always be much stronger 

 

You do realise that if this game would be more realistic then on the ranges we are fighting nothing would ever had chance against the battleships, do you?


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