PSA: Clans trading steel in CvC 9

[floribe2000]

A VPN is not forbidden as far as I know. But tbh, I don't see how that's related to the violations mentioned in the opening post.

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

1 minute ago, floribe2000 said:

A VPN is not forbidden as far as I know. But tbh, I don't see how that's related to the violations mentioned in the opening post.

 

Nah there will be other "evidence" to support this claim. 

 

In the end, there is not much they can do against this decision anyway though... 

[Grimhardt]

soooo... the weebs got busted...

[Yankmyplank]

25 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

Yeah maybe. 

Or maybe people use it to hide account sharing. 

 

I guess WG decided to believe the latter when looking at the whole picture. 

 

The remaining bit of uncertainty could be the reason why the players involved are just getting a clap on the hand and not losing their accounts... 

 

But that's all speculation. 

There are VPN's out there that have gaming in mind, you connect to their server in your country and they direct either by shortest or most stable route to a server in the country where game server is, this can reduce pig and packet loss by crazy amounts. Pretty much for the rest of us we all end up going through the Telia network to get to WG servers and that network is crap on it's best day.

[Karukaze]

30 minutes ago, Grimhardt said:

soooo... the weebs got busted...

Since when are Chinese players weebs? At least get the terminology correct. :P 

[definitely_Noc_a_CV_main]

Vor 16 Minuten, Karukaze sagte:

Since when are Chinese players weebs? At least get the terminology correct. :P 

the disbanded clan consistent primarily of only weebs. At least get your research correct :P

[Karukaze]

4 minutes ago, definitely_Noc_a_CV_main said:

the disbanded clan consistent primarily of only weebs. At least get your research correct :P

Darn it, you got me. :D 

[MRGTB]

Sorry, I don't understand how the OP can say "Trading Steel". Not like you can pass it from one account to another one.

 

 

Sounds like they have simply let other people use their accounts for clan battles... if I'm reading it right?

[Captn_Crap]

4 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

 And just as importantly, such actions undermine the principles of fair play and competition in Clan Battles.

Even though I understand the sanctions against VOR, I fail to understand how this affected fair play in clan battles. I mean in the end we would have fought against the same players anyway even if they didn't engage in account sharing.

[Bear__Necessities]

So.... usual suspects including PWP and CCTV on NA, get caught and suddenly excuses come out of the woodwork? Try not cheating and breaking rules....

[Captain_Singleton]

59 minutes ago, MRGTB said:

Sorry, I don't understand how the OP can say "Trading Steel". Not like you can pass it from one account to another one.

 

 

Sounds like they have simply let other people use their accounts for clan battles... if I'm reading it right?

i think he means earning steel on accounts which belong to other people, so not trading as such, but doing deals/swapping accounts for gain...

[OG_Senpoi]

🦀🦀VOR IS GONE🦀🦀

OH MY GOOD GOD WUT IT DIS?

🦀GKD WHEN?🦀

 

[OG_Senpoi]

6 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

So.... usual suspects including PWP and CCTV on NA, get caught and suddenly excuses come out of the woodwork? Try not cheating and breaking rules....

still TAT TWT QWQ QAQ CCTV1-7 exists

[TheBicentennialman]

i bet them players didnt get 1 ban for abusin the game rules

 

2.18 Creating or using multiple accounts for the purpose of exploiting game mechanics and/or gaining an unfair advantage; for the purpose of evading sanctions; or for the purpose of repetitive or excessive rule violations.

[TheBicentennialman]

10 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

As I said, it reads to me that it was not transferred from the treasury and instead earned by playing. 

 

1.Give money. 

2.Get into Clan. 

3.People from said Clan play your account and earn the Steel. 

 

2.18 Creating or using multiple accounts for the purpose of exploiting game mechanics and/or gaining an unfair advantage; for the purpose of evading sanctions; or for the purpose of repetitive or excessive rule violations.  ((should be number 3 right))

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 12 Stunden, Captn_Crap sagte:

Even though I understand the sanctions against VOR, I fail to understand how this affected fair play in clan battles. I mean in the end we would have fought against the same players anyway even if they didn't engage in account sharing.

Just guessing here, but let's say not every member has every ship available and not everyone can play all night long on CB days. You end up with a very specific setup, that requires a multitude of a ship that's locked behind a rare resource. Further asume that for whatever reasons that setup is superior to other setups. 

 

Clan A does no account sharing and over the course of a match day/week has to change its setup. 

 

Clan b does account sharing, it can play the same setup for 4h a day / 4 days a week. 

 

Now the higher you get in leagues, the better your player base is, the less likely is that scenario. But it is still a possibility. 

[rurkovsky]

13 minutes ago, Khaba_Gandalf said:

Just guessing here, but let's say not every member has every ship available and not everyone can play all night long on CB days. You end up with a very specific setup, that requires a multitude of a ship that's locked behind a rare resource. Further asume that for whatever reasons that setup is superior to other setups. 

 

Clan A does no account sharing and over the course of a match day/week has to change its setup. 

 

Clan b does account sharing, it can play the same setup for 4h a day / 4 days a week. 

 

Now the higher you get in leagues, the better your player base is, the less likely is that scenario. But it is still a possibility. 

It could be true with tX but not tVI, basically everyone can get those ships insteed of tX where resources ships takes time to grind.

 

And question to wg, would you ban players that share acc with friends for "one game tests"? For example someone want to play one game to try Stalingrad.

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 8 Minuten, rurkovsky sagte:

It could be true with tX but not tVI, basically everyone can get those ships insteed of tX where resources ships takes time to grind.

 

And question to wg, would you ban players that share acc with friends for "one game tests"? For example someone want to play one game to try Stalingrad.

WG said the disbanding of the clan is a sanction for misbehaviour in season 9. 

 

So we are not talking about the running season (s10, tier 6), but the last one. Which was t10... 

 

[rurkovsky]

1 minute ago, Khaba_Gandalf said:

WG said the disbanding of the clan is a sanction for misbehaviour in season 9. 

 

So we are not talking about the running season (s10, tier 6), but the last one. Which was t10... 

 

Youre right, sorry.

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 18 Minuten, rurkovsky sagte:

Youre right, sorry.

Nothing to be sorry about. I mean in the end at that level it starts to get pretty theoretical to what degree there is an unfair advantage. 

 

I mean unless we are talking about people playing on another continent/server for the lulz, at some point (league, number of games, personal quality) a lack of access to certain ships isn't as likely / damaging as it is at lower levels. 

 

For example : last seasons meta ships were venezia and Stalingrad. For us (average Joe clan) getting enough people online for a setup of only those two ships + cv was pretty hard at the start of the season, if not nigh impossible.

 

For a purple league clan? Not so much... 

[MoneyBagsMcKiwi]

15 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

Or maybe people use it to hide account sharing. 

Unless those using said VPN's are expert users, VPN traffic can still have the packets inspected by those who know what they are doing, which can also allow the detection of origin IP, regardless of the tunnel.

 

Bit too much effort for the sake of a game, no?

 

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

3 minutes ago, MoneyBagsMcKiwi said:

Unless those using said VPN's are expert users, VPN traffic can still have the packets inspected by those who know what they are doing, which can also allow the detection of origin IP, regardless of the tunnel.

 

Bit too much effort for the sake of a game, no?

 

So what - people can still try to hide account sharing by using a VPN - as you say yourself, one would have to look deepter into that to find something. And maybe what you say is even how WG can be sure they did it.

 

There seems to be enough evidence for WG to delete these clans and now they are telling stories about using VPNs - what do you think is the most probable case here?

 

 

[MrConway]

1 hour ago, rurkovsky said:

It could be true with tX but not tVI, basically everyone can get those ships insteed of tX where resources ships takes time to grind.

 

And question to wg, would you ban players that share acc with friends for "one game tests"? For example someone want to play one game to try Stalingrad.

 

You should not share your account details. Its really that simple.

 

And while we may not take action for single cases, especially if it involves random battles only, you are violating the rules and putting your account at risk.

[Nov_A]

Good.

[TheBicentennialman]

44 minutes ago, MrConway said:

 

You should not share your account details. Its really that simple.

 

And while we may not take action for single cases, especially if it involves random battles only, you are violating the rules and putting your account at risk.

so what if family member is usin your acct to try out is that person breaking the rules ?