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[Poll] Unique Historical Commanders

Unique Historical Commanders  

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  1. 1. Are Unique Historical Commanders overpriced at 175,000 Coal?

    • Yes
      95
    • No
      10
    • Don't care
      9
  2. 2. If you answered Yes, How much do you think the Unique Historical Commanders should cost?

    • 100,000 Coal
      38
    • 75,000 Coal
      51
    • 19,200 Research Points
      1
    • 5000 Steel
      1
    • 1.5 Million Free XP
      3
    • I answered No.
      20
  3. 3. As an owner of Unique Historical Commander (s), do you think their talents are sufficient?

    • Yes
      90
    • No
      14
    • Don't care
      10
  4. 4. As an owner of Unique Historical Commander (s), which unique commander do you think is best in use for Battleships?

    • Yamamoto Isoroku
      13
    • William Halsey
      8
    • Andrew Cunningham
      2
    • Philippe Auboyneau
      0
    • Nikolay Kuznetsov
      63
    • Günther Lütjens
      8
    • Luigi Sansonetti
      1
    • Jerzy Ṡwirski
      0
    • Don't care
      19
  5. 5. As an owner of Unique Historical Commander (s), which unique commander do you think is best in use for Destroyers?

    • Yamamoto Isoroku
      8
    • William Halsey
      0
    • Andrew Cunningham
      7
    • Philippe Auboyneau
      25
    • Nikolay Kuznetsov
      7
    • Günther Lütjens
      6
    • Luigi Sansonetti
      0
    • Jerzy Ṡwirski
      27
    • Don't care
      34
  6. 6. As an owner of Unique Historical Commander (s), which unique commander do you think is best in use for Cruisers?

    • Yamamoto Isoroku
      4
    • William Halsey
      23
    • Andrew Cunningham
      2
    • Philippe Auboyneau
      2
    • Nikolay Kuznetsov
      17
    • Günther Lütjens
      10
    • Luigi Sansonetti
      26
    • Jerzy Ṡwirski
      1
    • Don't care
      29
  7. 7. As an owner of Unique Historical Commander (s), which unique commander do you think is best in use for Carriers?

    • Yamamoto Isoroku
      1
    • William Halsey
      12
    • Andrew Cunningham
      20
    • Günther Lütjens
      25
    • Don't care
      56
  8. 8. Would you like to have Unique Historical Commanders for other nations, too?

    • Yes
      92
    • No
      2
    • Don't care
      20
  9. 9. Do you think any of the below Unique Historical Commanders is OP and needs to be nerfed?

    • Yamamoto Isoroku
      1
    • William Halsey
      0
    • Andrew Cunningham
      0
    • Philippe Auboyneau
      0
    • Nikolay Kuznetsov
      53
    • Günther Lütjens
      0
    • Luigi Sansonetti
      1
    • Jerzy Ṡwirski
      0
    • No, they are fine.
      59
  10. 10. Do you think any of the below Unique Historical Commanders is too weak and needs to be buffed?

    • Yamamoto Isoroku
      11
    • William Halsey
      4
    • Andrew Cunningham
      6
    • Philippe Auboyneau
      4
    • Nikolay Kuznetsov
      0
    • Günther Lütjens
      16
    • Luigi Sansonetti
      3
    • Jerzy Ṡwirski
      4
    • No, they are fine.
      66

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Dear Forumites,

 

It has been talked around about the Unique Historical Commanders here and there. My goal is to combine your opinions of these commanders with a mini-poll. 

Personally, I think the ones for coal are overpriced and could cost less coal or could be a little easier to be obtained with other in-game resources.

Some Historical Unique Commanders seem to fit well in BBs, DDs, Cruisers, Carriers and some in multiple classes.

Are there any changes you would suggest with talents or personalizations of Unique Historical Commanders?

Would you like to see more Unique Historical Commanders, and if yes, which ones?

 

What are your opinions?

 

Thank you.

 

Below are the Historical Unique Commanders that have been  introduced into the game;

 

 

 

Cunningham.JPG

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Jerzy.JPG

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Philippe.JPG

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Poll questions are not always logical. I answered no on q1 but am still required to answer q 2...and for use on cv’s i have no real answer since I hardly play cv...So that forces me to guess on what speciality would be the best..

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7 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said:

Poll questions are not always logical. I answered no on q1 but am still required to answer q 2...and for use on cv’s i have no real answer since I hardly play cv...So that forces me to guess on what speciality would be the best..

That's right, so another option is added to question #2 and Don't care option for #4,#5,#6 and #7 now (we can call it patch 0.0.1 :cap_haloween:).

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well, i can't vote because the poll lacks options. it's not like i don' care, it's more i don't know

So...

They are way overpriced for what it is for what they do...

 

Yes, they are ones that are stronger than others, and they can be very strong and making a difference in the right hands but for a regular player they can be not any different from a regular Commander, they are just one more commander if you don't unlock their special abilities.

And pay 175.000 coal for each of one of them? For that?

Way, way, overpriced.

Well, that was 2 cents on the subject.

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My feeling is that they are ludicrously overpriced; a sensible price point would be double that of a 'regular' coal captain i.e. 70K coal.

 

The main issue regarding the insane current cost is that it hands an advantage to the old lags: I think I have all the 'historicals' apart from Lutjens and Swirski (I'll get the latter too, in a couple of weeks, most likely), earned from campaigns/missions etc. - that feels an awful lot easier to me than grinding an absolute :etc_swear:-ton of coal, which is what a new arrival needs to do...

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21 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

My feeling is that they are ludicrously overpriced; a sensible price point would be double that of a 'regular' coal captain i.e. 70K coal.

 

The main issue regarding the insane current cost is that it hands an advantage to the old lags: I think I have all the 'historicals' apart from Lutjens and Swirski (I'll get the latter too, in a couple of weeks, most likely), earned from campaigns/missions etc. - that feels an awful lot easier to me than grinding an absolute :etc_swear:-ton of coal, which is what a new arrival needs to do...

So you have spent 1,050,000 coals on these commanders already. It is a lot of coal :cap_money:

Which one did you like playing most?

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1 minute ago, Execute0rder66 said:

So you have spent1050 coals on these commanders already

That's the thing - I haven't spent any coal on the 'uniques' yet, but I've been playing for a few years now, so was able to get all of them the 'easy' way (if you consider things like the multi-stage campaigns easy, although you can complete them by just playing, albeit in the right ships).

 

A new player will have to get the bulk of the uniques via grinding a lot of coal.

 

10 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said:

Which one did you like playing most?

 

So far, the most fun for me aren't actually on the list because they aren't historical: Ovenchicken, especially, and the Rong twins; Ovenchicken is my Gearing (and lots of US premiums) captain, and Da Rong mostly lives in Loyang, although he technically belongs to the T9 (Chung Mu).

 

Other than them, I recently got Cunningham to a respectable level and plonked him on Daring (but especially Cossack), and he's looking distinctly promising; I'm looking forward to getting the Polish chap very much - I suspect he might be great fun with Halland...

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32 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

That's the thing - I haven't spent any coal on the 'uniques' yet, but I've been playing for a few years now, so was able to get all of them the 'easy' way (if you consider things like the multi-stage campaigns easy, although you can complete them by just playing, albeit in the right ships). A new player will have to get the bulk of the uniques via grinding a lot of coal.

Same here, i have 5 out of 8 and did not spend any coal on them.

 

32 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

So far, the most fun for me aren't actually on the list because they aren't historical: Ovenchicken, especially, and the Rong twins; Ovenchicken is my Gearing (and lots of US premiums) captain, and Da Rong mostly lives in Loyang, although he technically belongs to the T9 (Chung Mu).

 

Other than them, I recently got Cunningham to a respectable level and plonked him on Daring (but especially Cossack), and he's looking distinctly promising; I'm looking forward to getting the Polish chap very much - I suspect he might be great fun with Halland...

I like Cunningham and also use it in Daring&Cossack but some CV mains prefer Cunningham in their CVs.

Jerzy Swirski is doing good in my Halland.

 

I wonder how Philippe Auboyneau preforms in French DDs.

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13 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said:

I wonder how Philippe Auboyneau preforms in French DDs.

He ought to be pretty good; mine's only on 13 points at the moment - I'm slowly working on him with a view to plonking him on the T10 when I finally get round to it (I prefer the Ikeas for my smoke-free DD requirements)....

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How dare you not to include our mighy salt mine overlord, The Mighty Jingles?? Don't you know who he is? :cap_hmm:

 

Off to the salt mines with you. :Smile_hiding:

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9 minutes ago, Otowi said:

How dare you not to include our mighy salt mine overlord, The Mighty Jingles?? Don't you know who he is? :cap_hmm:

 

Off to the salt mines with you. :Smile_hiding:

He is not ancient enough and not a real commander :cap_like:

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1 minute ago, Execute0rder66 said:

He is not ancient enough and not a real commander :cap_like:

Not a real commander? He's in the game, so he must be real... :cap_wander:

 

And he's old and crap according to himself, and he was in the RN, wich is good enough for me to call him a "real" commander. :cap_like:

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3 minutes ago, Otowi said:

Not a real commander? He's in the game, so he must be real... :cap_wander:

 

And he's old and crap according to himself, and he was in the RN, wich is good enough for me to call him a "real" commander. :cap_like:

Not everything in the game is real :cap_haloween: Yea, he was in the Navy once like tons of other players were (and some still are) in the Navy. Army, AF :Smile_popcorn:

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-  48 forumites voted. 

- 32 of them said "Nikolay Kuznetsov" is the best BB Captain.

- 13 said "Günther Lütjens" is the best  CV Captain.

- 16 said "Jerzy Ṡwirski" is the best DD Captain while 14 said "Philippe Auboyneau" is the best. This one is very close, hence i guess both are very good DD Captains. I have Jerzy Ṡwirski and he is very good in Halland but i don't how Philippe Auboyneau performs.

- 11 said "Luigi Sansonetti" is the best Crusier Captain.

- Majority of voters think Nikolay Kuznetsov is overpowered.

- Majority of voters would like to see new Historical Unique Commanders

- 42 out of 48 voters think that Historical Unique Commanders are overpriced at 175,000 coal and should be cheaper.

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On 8/25/2020 at 2:53 PM, piet11111 said:

175k coal is bonkers just a fraction more coal and you get a tier 10 ship.

If there were any interesting T10 coal ships, yes - but I find none of them appealing. Even less than those P2W commanders. I hope Kitakami will be available for coal...

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27 minutes ago, piet11111 said:

Black and flint are coming for coal.

Both are more interesting then the commanders. 

And maybe Neutrashimy for coal? It would definitely worth the coal.

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10 hours ago, Execute0rder66 said:

And maybe Neutrashimy for coal? It would definitely worth the coal.

 

Dont recall but its likely since it was removed as a steel ship.

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This poll is pretty bad. All the price options are too high. 50k coal should be max price for any commander. 5k steel or 1.5mln free xp is crazy high.

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^^ That's because if WG reasons to adjust coal prices, 100K and 75K seem more possible options than 50K.

Steel and fxp are for distraction purposes only as they won't remove UHCs out of coal. Focus on lower coal :Smile_trollface:

 

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Gunter Lutjens repairs the CV which is an extremely useful feature when you aggressively use the CV's guns in Operations. He does that multiple times as well. In PvP that is often wasted as the CV is 100 % most of the time there and probably will not activate when you do critically need it. I didn't recognise this straight away and put him in a BB for quite some time hoping for the 200 secondary hits that activate rarely in PvP.

 

The only other commanders that i see activating their talents often ( enough to warrant their price* ) are the French DD commander upon capping ( in maps with uncontested close caps he will get it under a minute ) and Kutzenetsov after receiving catastrophic damage which happess a lot fighting with Russian BB ( poor accuracy at range = closer range combat )

 

The only notable commander that is not mentioned as he does not belong in the activated talent type commanders is that ice skater russian with the heavy accent. In American CV as a passive talent he gives the planes more HP which is invaluable and probably worth much more then all activated talent legendary commanders.

 

* Only spend that much coal on Lutjens...the rest i got from completing (campaign ) tasks, spending a much lower amount of coal or doubloons. I did have to think a lot on spending new coal ships worth of coal on a mere commander, which i think is not of the same value at all. But after finding he repairs CV multiple times in agressive Operations use, he was worth it i guess.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said:

^^ On a note, Jerzy Ṡwirski and Luigi Sansonetti activate their talents quite fast, too.  

 

I'm sure they do...but those talents fail to impress me by practical uselessness.

 

Sansonetti : you clap a DD with SAP for first blood achievement. Now your main guns have more reach, but your position is quite near the enemy....instant more concealment or an instant smoke cooldown release would have been nice.:Smile_facepalm:

 

Swirsky : 8 torpedo hits fast ? Hmmm....not with my use of DD, even not that fast reloading ones. Spreads of torpedo salvo's lead right back to where you are, i often choose more secrecy to my location. After 20 (!!) air kills more continuous AA ??? Fast  activated ?? Does it even need that talent then ??? Probably gets activated most on Halland anyway, and that one barely needs it. I already avoid them in CV untill their AA modules are busted up by surface combat damage anyway. :Smile_teethhappy:

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