[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #1 Posted August 11, 2020 If you hate CVs, rejoice! Your wishes have come true. Pop some fireworks and go celebrate. Good job! Now, people who like them. Wtf did WG do to rocket planes? I thought they were just going to change the reticle, but the run time seems longer and the dispersion pattern crappier. Speaking of the Hakuryu, haven't had the heart to try others. So. Are rocket planes useless now? How do I adjust? Thanks. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #2 Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said: If you hate CVs, rejoice! Your wishes have come true. Pop some fireworks and go celebrate. Good job! yeah, but only in a micro scale, i have to wish harder. Wait for someone of your "charming" class to help you or you can just summon who you want 2 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CROTZ] AirSupremacy Beta Tester 1,209 posts 12,485 battles Report post #3 Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said: If you hate CVs, rejoice! Your wishes have come true. Pop some fireworks and go celebrate. Good job! Now, people who like them. Wtf did WG do to rocket planes? I thought they were just going to change the reticle, but the run time seems longer and the dispersion pattern crappier. Speaking of the Hakuryu, haven't had the heart to try others. So. Are rocket planes useless now? How do I adjust? Thanks. That's nothing against CV turning radius changes since 0.8.0, WG might as well put a fixed launch pad instead of a ship on to the map... Some airport runway :D GK is a speedy, fast turning ship nowadays in comparison haha. CV rockets now all fire GermanCVsilverShipStyle. At the end all CVs will be like the GZ haha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK] siraiaw Players 264 posts 2,533 battles Report post #4 Posted August 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, AirSupremacy said: That's nothing against CV turning radius changes since 0.8.0, WG might as well put a fixed launch pad instead of a ship on to the map... Some airport runway :D GK is a speedy, fast turning ship nowadays in comparison haha. CV rockets now all fire GermanCVsilverShipStyle. At the end all CVs will be like the GZ haha no cus gz is even more terrible now, with the rocket changes -_- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] Malim0o Players 1,433 posts 22,012 battles Report post #5 Posted August 11, 2020 It's a good change. Now a dd can mitigate the dmg if he dont stay broadside to the rocket plane. And a good cv player can hurt dd/cruiser much than before. So now rocket plane are a bit skill dependent (yeah just a little) 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padds01 Players 855 posts 7,546 battles Report post #6 Posted August 11, 2020 Apparently it was a small buff! ive been inflicting the german CV's on myself so ive been largely ignoring DD's spot them for the team if through some miracle thier are not a halland or in thier cloaking field. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eternus_Damnatio Players 866 posts 8,891 battles Report post #7 Posted August 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said: If you hate CVs, rejoice! Your wishes have come true. Pop some fireworks and go celebrate. Good job! Now, people who like them. Wtf did WG do to rocket planes? I thought they were just going to change the reticle, but the run time seems longer and the dispersion pattern crappier. Speaking of the Hakuryu, haven't had the heart to try others. So. Are rocket planes useless now? How do I adjust? Thanks. Dude JUST AIM 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #8 Posted August 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, Malim0 said: Now a dd can mitigate the dmg if he dont stay broadside to the rocket plane. 3 hours ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said: I thought they were just going to change the reticle, but the run time seems longer and the dispersion pattern crappier. Speaking of the Hakuryu, haven't had the heart to try others. Dispersion was actually buffed generally speaking. Hakuryu practically hasn't been affected. The only ones that got hit hard are CVs carrying TT style rockets. Beyond that nothing has changed. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] Malim0o Players 1,433 posts 22,012 battles Report post #9 Posted August 11, 2020 Il y a 29 minutes, El2aZeR a dit : Dispersion was actually buffed generally speaking. Hakuryu practically hasn't been affected. The only ones that got hit hard are CVs carrying TT style rockets. Beyond that nothing has changed. Since the patch i have play some DD game and i take less dmg than before if i didnt stay broadside to the rocket plane (not a huge difference but at some point i can try something with my dd ...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-XXX-] Spruss Players 136 posts 13,612 battles Report post #10 Posted August 11, 2020 4 ore fa, Bindolaf_Werebane ha scritto: If you hate CVs, rejoice! Your wishes have come true. Pop some fireworks and go celebrate. Good job! Now, people who like them. Wtf did WG do to rocket planes? I thought they were just going to change the reticle, but the run time seems longer and the dispersion pattern crappier. Speaking of the Hakuryu, haven't had the heart to try others. So. Are rocket planes useless now? How do I adjust? Thanks. Midway's tiny tim are useless now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #11 Posted August 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Malim0 said: Since the patch i have play some DD game and i take less dmg than before if i didnt stay broadside to the rocket plane (not a huge difference but at some point i can try something with my dd ...) I have noticed literally no difference in performance using Shokaku and Hakuryu rockets. Against TTs meanwhile it doesn't even matter if you broadside or not anymore since they're a pure RNGfest now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padds01 Players 855 posts 7,546 battles Report post #12 Posted August 11, 2020 RN and GZ reticle chhanged now theu shar the US one , if dispersion is worse or not i cant tell the reticle is soo much bigger , its a heavy handed slap to those two took thier attack craft that were a strong suit (relatively) and gutted them US should of been unchanged unless there was also a dispersion nerf , IJN should of shared in the EN/GZ nerf but it sounds from a couple of people that went wrong and thre dispersion tightened. all in all a change made only considering one side of the equation again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #13 Posted August 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Against TTs meanwhile it doesn't even matter if you broadside or not anymore since they're a pure RNGfest now. Does this include both the Lex and the Midway? Still not done grinding all the modules on the Lex, and I'm wondering whether I should just skip unlocking the TiTs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #14 Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, El2aZeR said: Against TTs meanwhile it doesn't even matter if you broadside or not anymore since they're a pure RNGfest now. wouldn't that then, on average, give less dmg on dds, as said above? Did you keep using midway legendary to compensate & balans dds with the bombs? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-M] Iskarioth Players 1,633 posts 16,636 battles Report post #15 Posted August 11, 2020 What really bugs the hell out of me is that some CVs clearly have a much hrader time hitting DDs while others that where balanced around a circle to begin with are not. So much for a "general nerf for all cvs". The GZ for instance got nerfed by it because most DDs turn towards you when they see your planes coming so unless has a really good day you will do little damage ( or even miss). While I as a DD player appreciate a HE rocket nerf for the worst offenders ( like Enterprise which isn't even affected, really GJ there WG) I feel it was implemented in the worst possible way. It should be applied to all but at the same time it should affect those CVs more that can blab you for up to 9k with a single volley instead of a Gz that gets 3,5k when lucky. They say we don't nerf premiums and let clearly op CVs like Ente unchanged but Gz gets one nerf after the other. The bombs still rarely hit but do less damage now and in exchange they buff the circle contraction that didn't do anything AT ALL because the bombs still fall at the very edges. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #16 Posted August 11, 2020 They are still as useful as before, as long as you know what you are doing. Sure, DDs can now mitigate damage or dodge more effective by avoiding showing broadside, but you can still disresepct them with frontal salvos or even better, outcircle them, predict their path, force a direction and cash in on even more devastating broadsides. USN CVs are literally unaffected and if you are having trouble landing reliable hits or forcing said situations, start playing the USN for experience. As you might imagine, less gucci CV players now struggle more doing consistent damage on DDs because the reticles are more demanding, giving better DD players a little more room to breathe. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #17 Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Uglesett said: Does this include both the Lex and the Midway? Yes. 1 hour ago, Saiyko said: wouldn't that then, on average, give less dmg on dds, as said above? Well, yeah, but it doesn't actually matter how you angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #18 Posted August 11, 2020 *Laughs in Audacious and Enterprise* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perekotypole Players 511 posts 8,639 battles Report post #19 Posted August 11, 2020 Vor 7 Stunden, Nov_A sagte: They are still as useful as before, as long as you know what you are doing. Sure, DDs can now mitigate damage or dodge more effective by avoiding showing broadside, but you can still disresepct them with frontal salvos or even better, outcircle them, predict their path, force a direction and cash in on even more devastating broadsides. USN CVs are literally unaffected and if you are having trouble landing reliable hits or forcing said situations, start playing the USN for experience. except that Shokaku rockets frontal salvos deal 2k damage... And in ranked, 7vs7 on small maps, DD has much higher chance to survive and kill CV now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #20 Posted August 11, 2020 Took out a DD after you told me to rejoice, nope, still getting slapped for 9K HP per pass by rocketplanes (in a ship with 20K health). 2 passes = still dead. The idea that you would find CVs useless if they could no longer kill a destroyer in 2 passes in the first 60 seconds of a game, only shows how broken that class is, it's so broken people playing it simply expect to murder everything whenever they damn well please. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #21 Posted August 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Perekotypole said: kill CV now Oh heavens no, kill CV? This is an outrage. Quick ask WG for +100% torpedo belt protection, they made them immune to fire and flooding last time someone killed a CV. I'm sure they'll be right on it 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #22 Posted August 11, 2020 They changed the aiming circle. I mentioned it days ago, but didn't get any traction, plus I generally don't play the game anymore so idk. It made it attack like US CVs do, which is tricky but not horrible (it is if you liked/used to the old style). Why did they nerf idk also, as imo half of what is said about CVs here is blown up out of proportion for the lols mostly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #23 Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 12:23 PM, Bindolaf_Werebane said: If you hate CVs, rejoice! Your wishes have come true. Pop some fireworks and go celebrate. Good job! Now, people who like them. Wtf did WG do to rocket planes? I thought they were just going to change the reticle, but the run time seems longer and the dispersion pattern crappier. Speaking of the Hakuryu, haven't had the heart to try others. So. Are rocket planes useless now? How do I adjust? Thanks. CV main you say? Fortunately WG has written a FAQ article to help you: https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wows/article/23537/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] BringMeCloser_ArrArr Players 27 posts 19,339 battles Report post #24 Posted August 14, 2020 6 Strikes at an perfectly broadsided Shimakaze, not a single hit thanks to RNG and the New Dispersion. Shima hunted me in my Hakuryu, reticle was always middled at Ships nose and still, not a single hit, only all around it. This new Reticle could have been good, i agree that rockets was too strong against DDs, but with the New reticle plus the Shitty dispersion, they are absolutely useless against DDs. Same tested in my Audacious and Midway. And im an Unicum CV Player and know exactly how to aim! This New reticle nerfed Rockets to nearly unusable. Hakuryu has now nothing against an DD. WG do the same over and over again throwing "Balance" in the game that isnt balanced as all, like the russian fire and forget CAs. The Dispersion of rockets need to be adjusted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #25 Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, NoRegret said: The Dispersion of rockets need to be adjusted. Sure. In about 1.5 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites