[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #1 Posted August 9, 2020 It is like the second part after my first post of yesterday, this time i was more aware of the general situation so no speculation, no jokes Battle type domination (with 3 caps) Duration: 6:58 My team was taking a beating but we have 1 cap (i was like in the middle of that cap at the end) , enemy has 2 caps The score was i as saw it 1 second before ending like almost 700 points for enemy, we have less than 300, but they completed the mission, at least this was the message from WG What mission ? God (WG) only knows So in conclusion, there is a mission where you do not need 1000 points to win, what is that mission.....waiting for opinions 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted August 9, 2020 Your team reached 0 points. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #3 Posted August 9, 2020 Curiouser and curiouser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNBCD] The_White_Whale Players 283 posts 3,035 battles Report post #4 Posted August 9, 2020 You start with 300 points, they sank 3 battleships that's -180 points, and 3 cruisers, that's -150 points. They zero'd you out. *edit* 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #5 Posted August 9, 2020 It's there a 0 point rule Anyway we have 1 cap for some time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #6 Posted August 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, The_White_Whale said: You start with 300 points, they sank 3 battleships that's -180 points, and 3 cruisers, that's -150 points. They zero'd you out. Please be honest, did you buy that account? Becuase that's two massive oversights someone with your game count should be aware of. Yeah, i buy it with my time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #7 Posted August 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, pontacringeoana said: It's there a 0 point rule You joking? Even if you played those 16k games in coop you would know the answer to that question by now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #8 Posted August 9, 2020 I think this is the so called 'Mercy rule'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #9 Posted August 9, 2020 And people be talking about how wargaming should educate its playerbase.... LOL Well ladies and gentlemen, see here: The average player. Sixteen. Thousand. Battles. Sixteen. Thousand. Battles. ....and doesnt know how points work. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #10 Posted August 9, 2020 Just now, pontacringeoana said: I never let anyone to touch my account i am kind of extreme in this regard. those low periods is me being extremly bored and tired but just stick it for missions Speaking from personal experience, trying to stick in like that for the missions, will give you many defeats. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #11 Posted August 9, 2020 I have a relative recent personal record of 11 lose in a row, even so in many of those i was on top 3 exp things happen 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #12 Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, The_White_Whale said: And yet you are unaware of how base capping works or how ship scoring works, the basics of every random mission, of which you have 16,000 to your name, and your account shows the exact same sort of performance cycles that has seen several clans banned recently, presuming it's an account you haven't simply purchased recently. My next battle, not my best but maybe you stop being a jerk 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #13 Posted August 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: And people be talking about how wargaming should educate its playerbase.... LOL Well ladies and gentlemen, see here: The average player. Sixteen. Thousand. Battles. Sixteen. Thousand. Battles. ....and doesnt know how points work. come on man 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #14 Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said: come on man That is indeed what I thought when i read OPs post. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #15 Posted August 9, 2020 I tried to google for an answer when did WG introduce this Mercy rule of theirs, but couldn't find an answer. Judging by one discussion on Reddit, people are often still taken by surprise when the battle ends due to it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #16 Posted August 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: I tried to google for an answer when did WG introduce this Mercy rule of theirs, but couldn't find an answer. Judging by one discussion on Reddit, people are often still taken by surprise when the battle ends due to it. I think it was already part of the game during Open Beta. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #17 Posted August 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: I think it was already part of the game during Open Beta. I noticed an older thread with you and Tuccy posting in it, related to patch 7.2. Based on that, the rule is older but for some reason people haven't really noticed it before, as such. https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/98220-games-ending-too-quickly-mercy-rule/ I also spotted elsewhere something slightly controversial; when battles end early due to the Mercy rule, it robs you of your chance to fully make use of your camos and flags in terms of lost damage farming potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #18 Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: I noticed an older thread with you and Tuccy posting in it, related to patch 7.2. Based on that, the rule is older but for some reason people haven't really noticed it before, as such. https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/98220-games-ending-too-quickly-mercy-rule/ I also spotted elsewhere something slightly controversial; when battles end early due to the Mercy rule, it robs you of your chance to fully make use of your camos and flags in terms of lost damage farming potential. this rule is crap, pardon my words even if i win even if i lose it is a theft in my opinion because sometimes just deprive you of completing some specific missions when you are at some 100 exp or 2000 damage of target 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #19 Posted August 9, 2020 49 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Speaking from personal experience, trying to stick in like that for the missions, will give you many defeats. After a while some people - me, for example - tend to stop caring about winrate, as it's mostly influenced by other people (= 11 teammates and 12 enemies), which can often be seen by people doing tons of damage, several kills and a high personal rating and still losing the battle due to teammates getting sunk faster than one can sink the enemy... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRUEL] Commander_Ericson Players 222 posts 12,144 battles Report post #20 Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, pontacringeoana said: My next battle, not my best but maybe you stop being a jerk So 2 threads both about games finish early, yet in all the 16k games you've played you've never experienced zeroing out or capping the enemy base in a standard battle..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #21 Posted August 9, 2020 I've experienced something similar on domination map, in general it was at the end of the battle with over 8-900 points I did want to ask on forum about, but now it was so obvious so i asked and get some unpleasant replies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #22 Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, pontacringeoana said: I've experienced something similar but on domination map, in general was at the end f the battle with over 8-900 points I did want to ask on forum about, but now it was so obvious so i asked and get some unpleasant replies Yes, it happens more often when you are at very high end of the points. It is mildly surprising then, but you don't usually stop to think about it. When it happens early on, it kinda feels like some kind of a game failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #23 Posted August 10, 2020 6 hours ago, pontacringeoana said: I've experienced something similar on domination map, in general it was at the end of the battle with over 8-900 points I did want to ask on forum about, but now it was so obvious so i asked and get some unpleasant replies You get snarky comments because this is something you really should know after the amount of games you have played regardless of game mode. If you loose too many ships too fast, your points will drop quicker than a single cap can give you (which you also see if you press tab) and you loose. And considering you lost a lot of ships and the enemy none, the simple asnwer is this is not a "strange" defeat, you just got crushed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #24 Posted August 10, 2020 Everyone, please behave. If you really feel like you have to be rude towards the OP, just ignore the thread... I know.. I know.. what you'll gonna say, but don't. Thank you... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #25 Posted August 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, Excavatus said: Everyone, please behave. If you really feel like you have to be rude towards the OP, just ignore the thread... I know.. I know.. what you'll gonna say, but don't. Thank you... I think you are more rude I know I kind of deserve it but i'm an unique player...the kind of gets Raiseniai Anyway you always learn something 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites