WG Please Buff the sigma of Pommern

[Dbars_eu]

The guns are a complete joke. The guns are already super low caliber and have terrible pen. I am shattering on cruisers at 10km. WG releases ships like the Slava but then releases crap like the Pommern. Thanks for making me waste coal on this crap.

[HaachamaShipping]

7 minutes ago, Dbars_eu said:

I am shattering on cruisers at 10km.

Wtf are you hitting? Angled PR conning tower or something? 

[doerhoff_damian]

WG will Buff the Pommern if the Ship is underperforming.

But I have the Feeling that the Ship is Performing quite well.

Lets see how the Stats will develope.

[doerhoff_damian]

Vor 3 Minuten, HaachamaShipping sagte:

Wtf are you hitting? Angled PR conning tower or something? 

Cruisers can Bounce 385mm Guns with angled Armor that is at least 27mm thick.

That is the Bow and Stern of some High Tier Cruisers and the Main Belt (Citadell) Armor when Angled

[Sunleader]

12 minutes ago, doerhoff_damian said:

Cruisers can Bounce 385mm Guns with angled Armor that is at least 27mm thick.

That is the Bow and Stern of some High Tier Cruisers and the Main Belt (Citadell) Armor when Angled

 

He Said Shatter. Not Bounce.

 

 

 

On Topic.

Unlike Odin which is Complete Trash. I dont see a Need to Buff Pommern right now.

 

38cm Guns are Sufficient to get Damage on almost anything.

And while the Accuracy us Horrible. It does throw alot of Shells out to make up for it.

 

Needless to say.

Hydro and Torps give you quite the Extra Punch in a Brawl.

And the Secondaries are pretty Decent too.

Armor is very Good. And Maneuverability is also Decent.

 

Right now I would dare Claiming that for a Brawl it is the Strongest T9 BB in the Game.

Its Fairly Decent on Mudrange too.

Only High Range its Pretty Weak.

But Sorry. If you try Sniping with a German BB you are doing something Wrong I think.

[Ocsimano18]

 

 

Pommern

IX

11

63.64% Unicum

1 216 Average

91 862

0.73

3.27

    Musashi  IX 8 62.5%
Unicum 2 121
Unicum 134 500 1.38

From mr_gibbins stats. Just for indication. Also people get close now, as it is a new ship and they don't know that they should not.

 

Sorry I could not copy paste the stats properly. 91862 vs 134500  avg. damage 

[Miscommunication_dept]

Either 1.8 sigma OR a 29 sec reload would be a good idea. You could probably give both without making it OP.

[KMSDortmund]

4 ore fa, doerhoff_damian ha scritto:

WG will Buff the Pommern if the Ship is underperforming.

But I have the Feeling that the Ship is Performing quite well.

Lets see how the Stats will develope.

Oh yes stats, best way to feel a ship 

Of course she's doing decently well, we're just at the start with few good players, stats mean nothing right now 

[Panocek]

4 hours ago, Sunleader said:

Mudrange

Is "mudrange" the distance you can throw mudball?

[herrjott]

Vor 17 Minuten, KMSDortmund sagte:

Of course she's doing decently well, we're just at the start with few good players, stats mean nothing right now 

It is a premium ship anybody can buy for cash or coal, what qualifies it to only be played by a "few good players"?

I have already seen a triple Pommern division, one was pink (need to test those torps ASAP), one had the HP-skill and the third was shooting HE most of the match...

[DFens_666]

4 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Pommern

IX

11

63.64% Unicum

1 216 Average

91 862

0.73

3.27

    Musashi  IX 8 62.5%
Unicum 2 121
Unicum 134 500 1.38

From mr_gibbins stats. Just for indication. Also people get close now, as it is a new ship and they don't know that they should not.

 

Sorry I could not copy paste the stats properly. 91862 vs 134500  avg. damage 

 

If Musashi is the benchmark, i think we need to buff all T9 BBs.

 

1 hour ago, gopher31 said:

Either 1.8 sigma OR a 29 sec reload would be a good idea. You could probably give both without making it OP.

 

Why should it be so much better than Alsace?

[Ocsimano18]

26 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

If Musashi is the benchmark, i think we need to buff all T9 BBs.

 

 

Why should it be so much better than Alsace?

Compared to other T9 coal BBs  it seems to be weak. I put there the Musashi stats, as Mr. G had a comparable number of games in the same period.

 

It should be stronger, more fun than tech tree T9s, otherwise why to spend your hard earned coal/money. The problem is that WG considers coal as too easy to earn, and pushes the grind limit even further with the research buro. I could make more spinned comparisons, like the new Russian research buro BB putting 3 citadels into a broadsiding ship at 18km, while the new German coal BB getting no citadels at a broadsiding ship at 4km.

[wot_2016_gunner]

5 minuti fa, Ocsimano18 ha scritto:

It should be stronger, more fun than tech tree T9s, otherwise why to spend your hard earned coal/money.

I agree, since every ship should be worth it's price, and right now, Pommern is not; tho i don't fully agree with the "stronger/more fun" part because then, why would i ever play the tech tree ship? A bit better is okay, but not too much.

 

10 minuti fa, Ocsimano18 ha scritto:

The problem is that WG considers coal as too easy to earn, and pushes the grind limit even further with the research buro.

True

 

10 minuti fa, Ocsimano18 ha scritto:

I could make more spinned comparisons, like the new Russian research buro BB putting 3 citadels into a broadsiding ship at 18km, while the new German coal BB getting no citadels at a broadsiding ship at 4km.

Actually, Yoshino has a Japanese turtleback (125mm sloped) that, just as Kongo and Amagi's turtleback, at close range (in that case 4km) should protect him from citadels

[Ocsimano18]

6 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

I agree, since every ship should be worth it's price, and right now, Pommern is not; tho i don't fully agree with the "stronger/more fun" part because then, why would i ever play the tech tree ship? A bit better is okay, but not too much.

 

True

 

Actually, Yoshino has a Japanese turtleback (125mm sloped) that, just as Kongo and Amagi's turtleback, at close range (in that case 4km) should protect him from citadels

My Roma did a better job on her at similar ranges, and Pommern is supposed to be a brawling ship.

[Yedwy]

She does ok for brawling as much as any ship is in the heavy HE meta...

[Taliesn]

22 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Compared to other T9 coal BBs  it seems to be weak. I put there the Musashi stats, as Mr. G had a comparable number of games in the same period.

 

It should be stronger, more fun than tech tree T9s, otherwise why to spend your hard earned coal/money. The problem is that WG considers coal as too easy to earn, and pushes the grind limit even further with the research buro. I could make more spinned comparisons, like the new Russian research buro BB putting 3 citadels into a broadsiding ship at 18km, while the new German coal BB getting no citadels at a broadsiding ship at 4km.

 

Fun is relative, but stronger than tech tree T9s, why? It could offer a different gameplay experience, but STRONGER?

 

 

 

[Jvd2000]

1 hour ago, KMSDortmund said:

Oh yes stats, best way to feel a ship 

Of course she's doing decently well, we're just at the start with few good players, stats mean nothing right now 

we’ll the type of players I have met had a lot of HE sniping, HP buff and secondline torping like they have 20 km range torps..

 

Its Derpitz on steroids...people with 500 games and trying to get their change to guaranteed wins by virtue of paying money for this T9..with predictable results...and then blame WG for not delivering the correct OP ship

[DFens_666]

25 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Compared to other T9 coal BBs  it seems to be weak. I put there the Musashi stats, as Mr. G had a comparable number of games in the same period.

 

It should be stronger, more fun than tech tree T9s, otherwise why to spend your hard earned coal/money. The problem is that WG considers coal as too easy to earn, and pushes the grind limit even further with the research buro. I could make more spinned comparisons, like the new Russian research buro BB putting 3 citadels into a broadsiding ship at 18km, while the new German coal BB getting no citadels at a broadsiding ship at 4km.

 

Premium ships shouldnt be stronger, but they should/could be unique. I think Pommers is very much unique right now. Musashi is just blatantly OP at T9. JB is kinda the same, not so much as Musashi, but reloadbooster is something i really see as problematic balancing wise. Georgia i consider most balanced out of those 3.

All of them are unique (atleast for their tier), but 2 of them went over the line.

[Ocsimano18]

1 minute ago, Taliesn said:

 

Fun is relative, but stronger than tech tree T9s, why? It could offer a different gameplay experience, but STRONGER?

 

 

 

Georgia and Jean-Bart beg to differ.

[Taliesn]

1 minute ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Georgia and Jean-Bart beg to differ.

 

That's not a reason to repeat the mistake, is it?

[Ocsimano18]

6 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Premium ships shouldnt be stronger, but they should/could be unique. I think Pommers is very much unique right now. Musashi is just blatantly OP at T9. JB is kinda the same, not so much as Musashi, but reloadbooster is something i really see as problematic balancing wise. Georgia i consider most balanced out of those 3.

All of them are unique (atleast for their tier), but 2 of them went over the line.

We still have these new OP premiums, but they are in the research buro. Last year coal was a new resource, so they introduced worthy coal ships. You get the same unbalanced sh.t now, but have to grind more to get them.

[KMSDortmund]

1 ora fa, herrjott ha scritto:

It is a premium ship anybody can buy for cash or coal, what qualifies it to only be played by a "few good players"?

I have already seen a triple Pommern division, one was pink (need to test those torps ASAP), one had the HP-skill and the third was shooting HE most of the match...

ohhh true I forgot people who throw 80 dollars for this crap 

[KMSDortmund]

59 minuti fa, DFens_666 ha scritto:

 

If Musashi is the benchmark, i think we need to buff all T9 BBs.

 

 

Why should it be so much better than Alsace?

Why a ship has to be as bas as Alsace ? 

[DFens_666]

1 minute ago, KMSDortmund said:

Why a ship has to be as bas as Alsace ? 

 

I dont think Alsace is bad actually

I feared to play it because majority on this forum said it sucked after the nerf... but once i did, i think its pretty strong.

[KMSDortmund]

6 minuti fa, DFens_666 ha scritto:

 

Premium ships shouldnt be stronger, but they should/could be unique. I think Pommers is very much unique right now. Musashi is just blatantly OP at T9. JB is kinda the same, not so much as Musashi, but reloadbooster is something i really see as problematic balancing wise. Georgia i consider most balanced out of those 3.

All of them are unique (atleast for their tier), but 2 of them went over the line.

I agree on everything but Pommern being unique, it's just a regular german BB with torpedoes... always same playstyle in my opinion. Siegfried is unique.