0.3.1 Complete List of Ship Changes (Including those missed by the official patchnotes)

[CloakingDonkey]

hey guys. Here's a complete list of everything that changed from 0.3.0 to 0.3.1... including everything that wasn't written in the official patch notes.

 

Please don't get on my hide for posting a video here... I spent the better part of 3 days making this and when I can be bothered tomorrow I'll also add written lists to this thread but I'm really tired now ^^

 

I know the hotfix is almost upon us but I think it's important to have a complete list of all the changes for when the hotfix DOES come so that we know what actually changed...

 

Please discuss. Now that I have presented the facts I would like to see someone dispute that this patch took a royal dump on destroyers in favour of Battleships and Cruisers.

 

Screencaps of everything, upload courtesy of calapine on reddit

 

USN Guns:

 

IJN Guns 1:

 

IJN Guns 2:

Premium Ships:

 

USN Ships:

 

USN Carriers:

 

IJN Ships:

 

IJN Battleships:

 

 

[OVanBruce]

Nicely done. Portrays what we've been saying here all the time in so many threads in just 20 minutes.

 

BB whiners will whine though.

[totte1015]

This is why I dont like Wargaming.

[Bortasqu]

Weird they buffed BB mobility, when it was fine from the start. It was just DD's that needed adjustments.

[lothos]

not bad, one thing I don't see mentioned is the "inertia" change with regards to the mobility changes. stopping a turn has gotten alot harder.

[kamuka]

Missing at least one minor detail. Mutsuki upgraded guns rpm nerfed from 11.9 to 6 or so.

 

Otherwise great stuff and thanks for the work.

[Fominator]

Missing at least one minor detail. Mutsuki upgraded guns rpm nerfed from 11.9 to 6 or so.

 

And turning rates from 20-something to 40 seconds. Seems WG hates Mutsuki.

[CloakingDonkey]

Missing at least one minor detail. Mutsuki upgraded guns rpm nerfed from 11.9 to 6 or so.

 

Otherwise great stuff and thanks for the work.

 

 

And turning rates from 20-something to 40 seconds. Seems WG hates Mutsuki.

 

oh? My sources list the upgraded Mutsuki guns at 5.5rpm and 40° turret traverse... I didn't include it because I didn't think anyone used it due to losing half your guns in favour of some shitty AA  ^^

 

 

 

not bad, one thing I don't see mentioned is the "inertia" change with regards to the mobility changes. stopping a turn has gotten alot harder.

 

that is probably just a "feeling"  A result of the tighter turning circles, meaning once the rudder is set the degree at which you turn is much steeper and when you turn the other way, even though the rudder shift time hasn't changed it is fighting against much harder angles.  So say f.e. a cruiser had a 800m circle before and would turn at about 20°, now it has 660m and turns at 32° (or something) so while the rudder shift takes the same time it will feel different.

 

Basically imagine you could turn the wheels on your car an extra 20° and how that would totally change the car's handling =)

[Sharana]

that is probably just a "feeling" 

It's not a feeling, they (RU) said at some point they will adjust it. It was possible for BB to sail foward and back avoiding even mid-range salvos from BBs. It was also easy to drop speed right before the CVs torp drop and evade most of them.

That's why they made them more intert ... but let them turn like DDs for that.

[Tasfalto]

uhm they nerfed the Gremy rudder 

 

[valkarianism]

Well done. 

 

おつかれさまでした。

 

You should totally do a patch notes series now =D we'll be looking forward to your future videos!

[CloakingDonkey]

It's not a feeling, they (RU) said at some point they will adjust it. It was possible for BB to sail foward and back avoiding even mid-range salvos from BBs. It was also easy to drop speed right before the CVs torp drop and evade most of them.

That's why they made them more intert ... but let them turn like DDs for that.

 

ooooh ok now I understand. Yeah that may very well be I didn't play a lot of battleships before the patch so I don't have much to compare their current gameplay to.. I'm looking at the situation more from the position of a Destroyer captain.

Fair enough though

 

Well done. 

 

おつかれさまでした。

 

You should totally do a patch notes series now =D we'll be looking forward to your future videos!

 

uhm they nerfed the Gremy rudder 

 

yeah I had a whole bunch of things to say about that... I decided to cut the premium ship commentary out in the interest of time (the video would have been like 30 minutes long...) I'll make a separate video about that as I am VERY upset about the stealth premium nerfs.

[ddod]

I noticed quite alot of changes to AA Guns(7.62mm replaced by 20mm on multiple ships) on Japanese ships. Nothing worth mentioning tho.

[xBamBamx]

Great job eldritch have a +1

 

[Purple_Alert]

They have way over buffed BB mobility now. It's like driving a speedboat when you are actually trying to turn something that weighs 1000's of tons. HE is way op now when we only have 1 repair/fire party (these should be seperate and have multiple uses) when being shot by a Cleveland with pyro skill every shell is pretty much going to set u alight again within 8 seconds. DD needed a tweek but now I don't like playing mine as unless you come up against a newbie you just get laughed at then vapourised.

Also who ever was supposed to write up these patch notes needs a massive kick in the groin for omitting these details that eldritch posted. Nice vid btw. Thanks.

[Sailor_Bear]

Keep up the good work  

[Vincinzerei]

Now that explains why it is so hard for a DD since the patch to score proper Hits on Long Range..

the Target must be a Starter, Tunnel Visioning or plain AFK to get hit by Long Range Torps..

Every experienced Player can avoid them now very easy..

[lothos]

 

 

oh? My sources list the upgraded Mutsuki guns at 5.5rpm and 40° turret traverse... I didn't include it because I didn't think anyone used it due to losing half your guns in favour of some shitty AA  ^^

 

 

 

 

that is probably just a "feeling"  A result of the tighter turning circles, meaning once the rudder is set the degree at which you turn is much steeper and when you turn the other way, even though the rudder shift time hasn't changed it is fighting against much harder angles.  So say f.e. a cruiser had a 800m circle before and would turn at about 20°, now it has 660m and turns at 32° (or something) so while the rudder shift takes the same time it will feel different.

 

Basically imagine you could turn the wheels on your car an extra 20° and how that would totally change the car's handling =)

 

perhaps, but stopping distances appear longer too.

[rigawe]

Good job with your video, now we just have to wait for WG to collect enough data on new DD performance and change something

[tajj7]

So yeh BBs massively buffed.

 

DDs massively nerfed.

 

Terrible Patch confirmed, BB whiners are most important it seems. 

[Nethraniel]

What was also not in the patch notes and also not in this video is, that the Yuubari's secondary gun got it's range nerfed from 4.0 km to 2.0 km while it's AA aura still is 5.0 km... weird

[kamuka]

 

 

oh? My sources list the upgraded Mutsuki guns at 5.5rpm and 40° turret traverse... I didn't include it because I didn't think anyone used it due to losing half your guns in favour of some shitty AA  ^^

 

The old upgraded guns had almost twice the rpm, so you didn't actually lose much dps. 100% sure on this. The Mutsukis AA actually isn't all that bad being about 2/3 of a New York class BB, so the hull upgrade is still worth it imho, as it helps when you get the attention of a carrier. The new gun upgrade is rather useless, tho. Constantly having to turn your AA on/off because the dp guns outrange your air detectability is a major annoyance for an unnoticable dps gain.

[Keulz]

I'm beginning to watch you video, really good idea, but i think you made a mistake about :

• Arming threshold has been raised for AP shells.

This means that the thickness of armor needed to detonate the AP shell is increased.

Example: 0.3.0: an AP shell could have needed 10mm, at least, to arm the explosive charge. With less than 10mm you would get an overpenetration.

0.3.1 the 10mm was raised to, let's say, 30mm: that means that all the ships that had between 10mm and 30mm armor, now get an overpenetration instead of a regular penetration, so they sustain lesser damages than before.

 

So penetration wasn't nerfed, just that the cases of overpenetration were expanded, which profits mostly to DD and low armored CA.

 

I hope i got what you said right, i'll return see the rest of your video. 

 

[Fominator]

oh? My sources list the upgraded Mutsuki guns at 5.5rpm and 40° turret traverse... I didn't include it because I didn't think anyone used it due to losing half your guns in favour of some shitty AA  ^^

 

Well, when you trade 2 turrets for AA but double your turnrate and RPM it worth it.

[ddod]

Found another massive change - Gearing's Surface detectability got buffed from 9.2km to 7.6km.