Do we want carriers in the game or not?

[Concrete_Potato]

I believe that all the players that have supporting this game all this years now, should have an opinion.

[COPlUM]

Yes, but they need an infinity gauntlet consumable, right now they have to click buttons to kill whichever ship they please, with the gauntlet this would no longer be required.

[illy]

yes but not in their current state

[Verblonde]

Yes, but they need work for 'small map' game modes at the very least.

[Arrive_Alive]

Hell no.

[PeteEarthling]

Yes, but without planes. Having two "vehicles" while everybody else has only one is grossly unfair.

[SV_Kompresor]

Yes

[Bear__Necessities]

Spreadshit clearly says yes and it was great success comrade. If you disagree I'm sure the commissars would have a nice chat about an extended holiday in Siberia. 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

Yes, but not the abominations WG redesigned.

[ItsJustAFleshWound]

No.

 

What were the devs thinking when they released CVs?

 

CVs can:

Spot infinitely from any point of the map.

Cause damage to any ship without risking taking damage themselves. ("aww but muh squadrons". They regenerate)

Don't have to worry about positioning (I'm not saying that they can just sit at the back and not move but it's not nearly as "difficult" as with other classes)

 

There are probably a lot more things they can do too, but I may have forgotten them.

 

And I say this as someone who plays CVs, they should be a part of the game but not in their current state.

When will WG admit they made a crap mistake and that the CV "rework" was a complete fail?

 

All of the above is bad enough in randoms, let alone a competitive environment.

[Itwastuesday]

No, unless they make the game better in some way other than "Carriers existed!". Right now a Carrier in a match just makes it worse for everyone else.

 

Also their gameplay is atrociously boring which means nobody will play them if they're ever balanced.

[El2aZeR]

Aircraft carriers? Sure.

THESE aircraft carriers? No.

[COPlUM]

13 minutes ago, ItsJustAFleshWound said:

When will WG admit they made a crap mistake and that the CV "rework" was a complete fail?

When the problem is pushed onto someone else, battles become a complete mess and BBs come here to complain about 60 second games. I decided to unironically commit the entirety of my time in this game to yolo-torpedo BBs, i've gotten 22 today in 35 games, getting better at it. If you're going to have 60 second games in a DD, make it worthwhile.

[Altsak]

The only major problem with carriers is the spotting. Fix that and CVs are pretty much fixed for competitive. After fixing spotting only minor balance issues remain and we can live with those.

[Itwastuesday]

4 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

When the problem is pushed onto someone else, battles become a complete mess and BBs come here to complain about 60 second games. I decided to unironically commit the entirety of my time in this game to yolo-torpedo BBs, i've gotten 22 today in 35 games, getting better at it. If you're going to have 60 second games in a DD, make it worthwhile.

I sometimes do that in Minsk. The upside is, it feels good!

[_HomTanks_]

In a separate mode. Or the “rework” should be “reworked”.

[COPlUM]

3 minutes ago, Itwastuesday said:

I sometimes do that in Minsk. The upside is, it feels good!

Im buying a ton of DDs now because I keep running out spamming these 60 second games in which I literally dont give a fck anymore.

[TheBicentennialman]

another hate post towards cv players when will WG step in and stop this

Do we want carriers in the >game <

this player is talkin about the full game not rank 

[ItsJustAFleshWound]

11 minutes ago, TheBicentennialman said:

another hate post towards cv players when will WG step in and stop this

Do we want carriers in the >game <

this player is talkin about the full game not rank 

"hate post"

lol. Thanks for the laugh.

 

Also it's because right now CVs are ruining the game, they take very little skill to play compared to other classes, lose some planes? that's alright, they regenerate.

[ItsJustAFleshWound]

1 hour ago, Itwastuesday said:

No, unless they make the game better in some way other than "Carriers existed!". Right now a Carrier in a match just makes it worse for everyone else.

 

Also their gameplay is atrociously boring which means nobody will play them if they're ever balanced.

I agree. I bought Kaga and my god was it a waste. CV play is incredibly boring and it's not even challenging, it's a simple point and click and dodge flak.

Wish I could refund the doubloons but now I've played it WG say that it's unfair to have it removed because it's in my stats, seriously wtf is this policy??

[lovelacebeer]

Since the rework no, I used to hold out hope WG could balance them out but I have got to the stage I would rather they just got rid of the class (although I know that won't happen).

[Logan_MountStuart]

They were worse before the rework but in any case it does not matter, they are going nowhere anytime soon.

[Bortasqu]

Just delete the CV class already.

[COPlUM]

I was unhappy with them but enjoying the rest of the game a lot kept me engaged. Then I tried low tier Japanese DDs and realized - TX is nothing compared to this, low tier DD play is genocide by plane, then I took my Leander out for a spin and I was killed in spawn by 2 wesers double-teaming me before I even had the chance to move my ship forward, now I hate carriers and will spam 50+ yolo-torpedo DD games per day to make everyone else around me as miserable as possible. Enemy battleships because they have 60 second matches, my team because they are blind.

[kailii]

Yes. But please sink all existing ones.

 

CVs were bad before the redesign already, but that was mostly because of the bad UI.

 

We could have started from there and make gameplay less stressful for the CV and more balanced.

 

Just one idea - take the old design, give the CV recon air groups which act mostly automatically and less crunch power. Balance those recons against spotting, so you can spot ships between two islands but not from 100 miles away.

Get back those fighters. Protect your carrier, screen your attack force or shoot down recon aircraft.

And only one strike flight at a time. Saves nerves for the CV boss of the boat, but make them strong, so the fly boys have something to brag about.

But also make them swear for picking torpedo bombers and encountering a DD...

 

Might possibly win the favor of 0.42% of the WoWs players. I'll see myself out.