WG RN "heavy" cruisers

[Mangrey]

Hey WG

 

When do you have Data enugh (if any) to take a new look how the RN "heavy" cruisers preform the lack of ships of that kind have to be an indicator that some think is wrong (but thats just me)

The ingame (I) info is full of lies. 

 

[HaachamaShipping]

12 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

Hey WG

 

When do you have Data enugh (if any) to take a new look how the RN "heavy" cruisers preform the lack of ships of that kind have to be an indicator that some think is wrong (but thats just me)

The ingame (I) info is full of lies. 

 

Popularity isn't high, but performance seems to be ok. If WG addresses the ships, I'd guess only the way they addressed the French cruisers rebalancing it for some added gimmick to increase popularity, without making it straight up OP.

 

Dunno what you consider lies though.

[Mangrey]

how would you make a slow shoting ship that has enugh Armor to allways take citadels no masser what shots at it or angle with out range on cannons since its suppose to fight Close to medium range (what ever that means)

[HaachamaShipping]

3 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

how would you make a slow shoting ship that has enugh Armor to allways take citadels no masser what shots at it or angle with out range on cannons since its suppose to fight Close to medium range (what ever that means)

Which of the ships are we talking about? Because there are quite the differences between them and one has to consider balancing for the tier.

[loppantorkel]

3 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

how would you make a slow shoting ship that has enugh Armor to allways take citadels no masser what shots at it or angle with out range on cannons since its suppose to fight Close to medium range (what ever that means)

Use island cover and don't spam shells?

[Humorpalanta]

4 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

how would you make a slow shoting ship that has enugh Armor to allways take citadels no masser what shots at it or angle with out range on cannons since its suppose to fight Close to medium range (what ever that means)

Better Credit/Free XP/Commander XP multiplier? -> WOuldn't change their battle performance but could grow their popularity.

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, Humorpalanta said:

Better Credit/Free XP/Commander XP multiplier? -> WOuldn't change their battle performance but could grow their popularity.

Imo, main issue is that the line is like old French cruisers. They burn things down, but feel not like they have much impact nor that they are incredibly flexible. Crappy angling gets punished and unlike British BB, you can't just sit at the map border and never risk your ship. This leads to a small player base of these ships that feel like they can make it work and who weirdly enough can still enjoy it, while others rather play other ships that are more exciting and the only fast-paced action isn't how your hp bar can jump all over the place due to citadel size and superheal.

[Mangrey]

1 minute ago, loppantorkel said:

Use island cover and don't spam shells?

lol how when there allways are a ships that better at it ..... DD with smoke any US cruiser, Mikhail Kutuzov 

[loppantorkel]

5 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

lol how when there allways are a ships that better at it ..... DD with smoke any US cruiser, Mikhail Kutuzov 

You need to specify what ship in the line you're having issues with. Maybe it's the ship, maybe it's you.

[HaachamaShipping]

2 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

lol how when there allways are a ships that better at it ..... DD with smoke any US cruiser, Mikhail Kutuzov 

You remind me of the Yamato yesterday that complained about how the Mino, Colbert, Marceu trio was [censored diseases] for farming him down, when he actually mostly died to me in Goliath and all the others did is just raining a rainbow onto an already burning ship without penning much other than superstructure.

 

Sorry, but a Kutuzov, Cleveland and Baltimore are quite a different thing from an Albemarle. As is any DD. At T9-10 it's even more different.

[Mangrey]

2 minutes ago, HaachamaShipping said:

Kutuzov, Cleveland and Baltimore

IN witch way ? ... when i see them island hugging alll day long there is none for me. 

Im trying out the Abemarle in ranked and it is the works expiance since CV rework or subs on test server 

[VeryHonarbrah]

Yeah looks like another french cruiser story. They probs need a gimmick to make them decent

[Mangrey]

I guess there gimmick is they are made of CItadele. eve more then any othere cruiser line

[HaachamaShipping]

1 minute ago, Mangrey said:

IN witch way ? ... when i see them island hugging alll day long there is none for me. 

Im trying out the Abemarle in ranked and it is the works expiance since CV rework or subs on test server 

Match an Albemarle against any of the other ships listed and if it doesn't broadside, it should win without issue.

[loppantorkel]

2 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

Im trying out the Abemarle in ranked and it is the works expiance since CV rework or subs on test server 

Why would you take Albemarle to rank for? It's not the strongest ship for Ranked. One below average ship doesn't necessitate a line reform..... Just choose better in the future.

[Mangrey]

2 minutes ago, loppantorkel said:

Why would you take Albemarle to rank for? It's not the strongest ship for Ranked. One below average ship doesn't necessitate a line reform

and why would you say that ? 

take an OP premium ships then ?..... try read my first post 

[Panocek]

15 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

and why would you say that ? 

take an OP premium ships then ?..... try read my first post 

With game mechanics shallow as a puddle, there are only so many gimmicks you can get before it gets wonky.

[HaachamaShipping]

13 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

and why would you say that ? 

take an OP premium ships then ?..... try read my first post 

I mean, you don't take an Albemarle, just like you shouldn't take a Charles Martel. The ship just does not fit the ranked meta. In a 12 v 12 random, you got usually more time to shine and you can make do with an unreliable citadel protection, in ranked where you want consistency and impact, an Albemarle that gets impact only as games draw out is not going to give you that and the only time it'll shine is if you run into some lineup of Odins.

 

On the other hand, if this was T7 or T9 ranked, I could certainly see a place for Surrey or Drake, so even in such settings, the entire line certainly isn't the issue.

[Jethro_Grey]

The heavy part in RN heavy cruisers refers to the guns, not the armor. Like in ALL heavy CA lines.

 

As others already said, Albemarle is not a meta ship, don't use it in ranked.

Ships of this line shine in randoms.

[loppantorkel]

28 minutes ago, Mangrey said:

and why would you say that ? 

take an OP premium ships then ?..... try read my first post 

1 hour ago, Mangrey said:

Hey WG

 

When do you have Data enugh (if any) to take a new look how the RN "heavy" cruisers preform the lack of ships of that kind have to be an indicator that some think is wrong (but thats just me)

The ingame (I) info is full of lies.

'Something is wrong with performance of RN heavy cruisers, some jibberish about lack of ships (maybe low popularity?), something's wrong. In-game info full of lies (nothing specified)'. You've later clarified your disappointment about your performance with Albemarle in Ranked....

 

My suggesting is - if you're playing Ranked - yes, take a ship suited for it, or get better at the game.

You're not making a great case for yourself...

[COPlUM]

The Goliath effect There's a DD spotted 6.5km from you, you're in the middle of a brawl, a Goliath is briefly spotted 17km away, load AP, shoot the Goliath, you never know, might get a citadel, it's in gods hands.

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, NikolayKuznetsov said:

The Goliath effect There's a DD spotted 6.5km from you, you're in the middle of a brawl, a Goliath is briefly spotted 17km away, load AP, shoot the Goliath, you never know, might get a citadel.

I have the feeling that apart from easy cits, noone has ever any expectations from Goliath.

[Peffers]

How about the Halloween Shield consumable?

 

 

 

 

 

[Humorpalanta]

1 hour ago, HaachamaShipping said:

Imo, main issue is that the line is like old French cruisers. They burn things down, but feel not like they have much impact nor that they are incredibly flexible. Crappy angling gets punished and unlike British BB, you can't just sit at the map border and never risk your ship. This leads to a small player base of these ships that feel like they can make it work and who weirdly enough can still enjoy it, while others rather play other ships that are more exciting and the only fast-paced action isn't how your hp bar can jump all over the place due to citadel size and superheal.

I "do not have a problem" with the playstyle. It is not super exciting but not terrible. However whatever you do you are just not rewarded. So there is no reason to play it. The playstyle is not rewarded at all.

 

Just now had a game in the TVI. I was midtier. Whole game CV was attacking me. Shot down a lot of planes, did 90k dmg, 1,3 mill potencial damage and capped in domination. 1400 Base XP. What am I supposed to do to get rewarded? Other question: HOW?

 

So when I say that I could be playing them if there was some reason I mean that I could enjoy it. However the credits and XP you receive even though you work your [edited]off is basically an offense. That is why I say if they buffed their multipliers so you would receive more credits and base xp then it could make more people play it without touching the playstyle.

[COPlUM]

4 minutes ago, HaachamaShipping said:

I have the feeling that apart from easy cits, noone has ever any expectations from Goliath.

It's like the Odin, Rrraaaaur I'm a real TX, fear me!
No you're not, but that's cute though.