mightyjazz Beta Tester 11 posts 991 battles Report post #1 Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Sorry I am writing this post weather I get banned or what ever I don't really care, this game started of really well until that god awful patch you launch were you change he.. In my opinion things at current are just not balanced you have got dd's that are currently owning most games your in with there stealth and torpedo's and being able to get within 3k of there target without being seen (before anyone comments and tries to deny it I have managed to do that my self on my sims) you either need to nerf them or make secondary armaments more accurate and effective. The main problem for me is the cost of repairs to t10 bb's or cruisers need sorting out you pay in my opinion far too much and you end up losing money rather than make any which is the same as world of tanks were the same thing happens. This causes most people not to bother even playing them that's why most of time you end up with t10 in t8 battles. Edited May 20, 2015 by mightyjazz 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] MudMonkey Beta Tester 1,338 posts 8,375 battles Report post #2 Posted May 20, 2015 Sorry I am writing this post weather I get banned or what ever I don't really care, this game started of really well until that god awful patch you launch were you change he.. In my opinion things at current are just not balanced you have got dd's that are currently owning most games your in with there stealth and torpedo's and being able to get within 3k of there target without being seen (before anyone comments and tries to deny it I have managed to do that my self on my sims) you either need to nerf them or make secondary armaments more accurate and effective. The main problem for me is the cost of repairs to t10 bb's or cruisers need sorting out you pay in my opinion far too much and you end up losing money rather than make any which is the same as world of tanks were the same thing happens. This causes most people not to bother even playing them that's why most of time you end up with t10 in t8 battles. Well, why should you get banned? As far as I can see it, you are a BB player. Why dont you start to play DDs before you demand a nerf for them. It will also help you to understand their gameplay better when you are in a BB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacko01 Beta Tester 329 posts Report post #3 Posted May 20, 2015 Well, why should you get banned? As far as I can see it, you are a BB player. Why dont you start to play DDs before you demand a nerf for them. It will also help you to understand their gameplay better when you are in a BB. Hang on he just said he played a DD didn't he 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nethraniel Beta Tester 1,739 posts 1,782 battles Report post #4 Posted May 20, 2015 14 games in Sims with 2 wins and 12k average DMG per battle... not really "owning everything" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharana Alpha Tester 2,271 posts 1,040 battles Report post #5 Posted May 20, 2015 With such terrible performance in them it's normal to lose money with those high tiers. 57K avarage damage in Yamato (you have more in your Fuso or that's the the aim mod last patch?), 23K in Iowa... When you learn to play those ships and be effective you won't lose money and that's the point. You should make money only with premium and skill on tier 10. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjazz Beta Tester 11 posts 991 battles Report post #6 Posted May 20, 2015 already am premium and never used aim bot and I try preform well every game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #7 Posted May 20, 2015 already am premium and never used aim bot and I try preform well every game. he meant premium ship How could you say DDs are OP when every other person thinks they are nerfed in this patch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fominator Alpha Tester 797 posts Report post #8 Posted May 20, 2015 In my opinion things at current are just not balanced you have got dd's that are currently owning most games your in with there stealth and torpedo's and being able to get within 3k of there target without being seen Are we playing the same game? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #9 Posted May 20, 2015 also dude you were an aim asist user so freaking obvious with your ship stats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #10 Posted May 20, 2015 Destroyers are still the weakest and most pointless class in the game. Your Sims has a win rate of 14%... But anyway. You lose money because you're not a good player. Your average damage in high-tier ships is uniformly awful. New Mexico 35k avg dmg Colorado 32k NoCal 43k Iowa 24k Those are low numbers, and it's not surprising you don't run a profit with such low damage values. Even the premium doesn't save you there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjazz Beta Tester 11 posts 991 battles Report post #11 Posted May 20, 2015 This is why I never really post on forums everyone is a critic and again I tell you you are wrong never used aim mod except the current one in the game given to dd's. when firing torps. just press x and it shows you were to aim all the moaning in the forums about the aim mod and there is one in the game already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lothos Beta Tester 71 posts 271 battles Report post #12 Posted May 20, 2015 the point on profit is you can play a tier x DD mediocre and not lose your house, but you play slightly above average in a BB tier x and you do run negative. it was the same way in WoT and why nobody plays them as much as you'd think. Nobody can afford to play enough to get good if you're constantly losing money starting out in them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nethraniel Beta Tester 1,739 posts 1,782 battles Report post #13 Posted May 20, 2015 You just did not thought through your statements. That is why you get critisized. And no, the aiming help for torps is not comparable to gun aim assist because of travel time and evasive maneuvers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #14 Posted May 20, 2015 This is why I never really post on forums everyone is a critic and again I tell you you are wrong never used aim mod except the current one in the game given to dd's. when firing torps. just press x and it shows you were to aim all the moaning in the forums about the aim mod and there is one in the game already. well if you are going to say "nerf this class" after they nerfed it down to hell you have some problems mate aim asist was for every ship before people like you downloaded files to make it work again before 3.1 which explains why your Iowa and fuso has such diffrence at damage done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lothos Beta Tester 71 posts 271 battles Report post #15 Posted May 20, 2015 well if you are going to say "nerf this class" after they nerfed it down to hell you have some problems mate aim asist was for every ship before people like you downloaded files to make it work again before 3.1 which explains why your Iowa and fuso has such diffrence at damage done he doesn't use any aim mod/cheat and quit saying people do. I'm so sick and tired of hearing everybody swear up and down everyone is using it when they are simply better than other people in some ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #16 Posted May 20, 2015 the point on profit is you can play a tier x DD mediocre and not lose your house, but you play slightly above average in a BB tier x and you do run negative. it was the same way in WoT and why nobody plays them as much as you'd think. Nobody can afford to play enough to get good if you're constantly losing money starting out in them. dude you dont even have destoryers above tier 5 the mediocre paly for a tier X DD will make you lose money its not treated diffrently BUT at tier 7 hatsuharu compared to fubuki has such low repair so yeah DDs gets to hit the punch again a hatsuharu's repair ammo reload doesnt pass 30k if you die in fubuki you pay 85k i dont think an amagi has doubled amount of repair if you compare the sizes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #17 Posted May 20, 2015 he doesn't use any aim mod/cheat and quit saying people do. I'm so sick and tired of hearing everybody swear up and down everyone is using it when they are simply better than other people in some ships. if his stats went down after 3.1 playing battleships it isnt hard to think he was using aim asist this isnt about "being better player" your words doesnt even worth listening you dont have DDs above tier 5 and you say that mediocre tier X DD play wil lnot make you lose money bruh.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lothos Beta Tester 71 posts 271 battles Report post #18 Posted May 20, 2015 dude you dont even have destoryers above tier 5 the mediocre paly for a tier X DD will make you lose money its not treated diffrently BUT at tier 7 hatsuharu compared to fubuki has such low repair so yeah DDs gets to hit the punch again a hatsuharu's repair ammo reload doesnt pass 30k if you die in fubuki you pay 85k i dont think an amagi has doubled amount of repair if you compare the sizes the bigger guns of BB's cost most in ammo. same way as in WoT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #19 Posted May 20, 2015 Do more damage and you'll get more money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #20 Posted May 20, 2015 the bigger guns of BB's cost most in ammo. same way as in WoT 1-You arent supposed to make money with mediocre play 2-Bigger guns you say but i see it as more damage the more damage you do the more money you will get and guns are more accurate compared to torpedoes 3-There is no ship in game that will let you earn money without premium account over tier 7(except premium ships) playing mediocre 4-A destroyer gets paid more at same amount of damage because it is harder to do it with a destroyer i did 126k damage no premium included hatsuharu 320k money won i managed to hit 12 torpedoes to a fleet of battleships(8 of them) hitting more than 6 diffrent battleships with torps can you imagine how hard that was? a mediocre destroyer game will not reward you at high tiers money wise but it will make you feel good since it is hard to do mediocre and above now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DMAS] rigawe Beta Tester 313 posts 2,716 battles Report post #21 Posted May 20, 2015 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lothos Beta Tester 71 posts 271 battles Report post #22 Posted May 20, 2015 If you play the same quality of play every time in every tier you net less and less as you increase in tier which is fundamentally wrong IMO, but that's what it is. If you take the above and compare it dd vs bb your profit to loss rate is astronomically different with the bb losing more than the average dd. making the game a loss on even poor games defeats the point of playing and getting people to stay in their newly earned high tier ships and actually get good playing them. are you guys just of the elitist opinion that only really really good players should ever get the continued ability to play tier 7+ stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjazz Beta Tester 11 posts 991 battles Report post #23 Posted May 20, 2015 You just did not thought through your statements. That is why you get critisized. And no, the aiming help for torps is not comparable to gun aim assist because of travel time and evasive maneuvers same for aim mod how I read it ??????????????????????????? u can still avoid just the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #24 Posted May 20, 2015 If you play the same quality of play every time in every tier you net less and less as you increase in tier which is fundamentally wrong IMO, but that's what it is. If you take the above and compare it dd vs bb your profit to loss rate is astronomically different with the bb losing more than the average dd. making the game a loss on even poor games defeats the point of playing and getting people to stay in their newly earned high tier ships and actually get good playing them. are you guys just of the elitist opinion that only really really good players should ever get the continued ability to play tier 7+ stuff? no but BB players like him made high tier DDs only but only fun to good players and he wants another nerf who teh heck is super good DD player here huh? 50k damage in a DD is mediocre between tier 4 and tier 9 because they have 17k torps same damage only their ability changes a bit but a mediocre play for shimakaze would be at least 70k-80k which if you can do that damage you still will not earn too much money compared to your death BBs dont start to bleed moeny instantly but DDs do(i dont know why fubuki costs 85k and hatsuharu 20k) i had a mediocre game with 5 torpedo hits i did 48k damage(17k max damage but average damage per torps is somehow below 10k -.-) and from that game i left with 6k money net 116k earned 110k spent and i wasnt even dead it was a win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharana Alpha Tester 2,271 posts 1,040 battles Report post #25 Posted May 20, 2015 are you guys just of the elitist opinion that only really really good players should ever get the continued ability to play tier 7+ stuff? It's F2P game that have to bring money to it's developers. You are not expected to play tier 7+ without premium and premium ship to farm money for it if you are avarage or worse player. Same as WoT. You can also play the lower tiers and collect money to play few high tier battles later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites