German CV's....

[Hopeless_Guppy]

So is there anyone out there who has not got any through the crates, or missions for them, I see quite a few Parsevals in the ranked battles but I have not received any missions for any of them, i was just wondering what they are like.

[Shongololo]

9 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said:

So is there anyone out there who has not got any through the crates, or missions for them, I see quite a few Parsevals in the ranked battles but I have not received any missions for any of them, i was just wondering what they are like.

I got both the tier 4 and 6 from the in game crates, There good but i have a lot to say about them:

1. The AP rocket planes are hit & miss, they can really hurt a cruiser from a broadside but also do the same thing with no damage, You do very little to DDs and BBs, there angles for penetration needs to be visited imo, RNG seems to play a big part in it.
2. The torpedoes bombers are good, nothing great but the fast torpedoes are good.
3. Dive bombers i have no luck with and I also find that my hole squad is destroyed before i can even drop, I would maybe ask for an HP buff on them.

I am no pro at CVs and I have not played the tier 8, which seems to be doing well in ranked but as for a CV line, I've done better in these 2 then the USN, IJN and RN CVs.

 

That's just a brief over view from my games in them.

[Xaturas]

Did all missions (the weekend ones to)beside the last directive that is not on yet.

Didn't get any, didn't get anything meaningfull. After learning that I can't even get 1 camo for ship from the coins I gave up on WG.

[BLUB__BLUB]

I have the T4 and the T6, both are definitely mega-MEH. 

[Hopeless_Guppy]

Ok so it looks like I will have to wait to grind the tier 4 one, sort of given up hope of it dropping from a container, or at least the mission for it, so at tier 4 Hosho is still the king then?

[BLUB__BLUB]

4 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said:

Ok so it looks like I will have to wait to grind the tier 4 one, sort of given up hope of it dropping from a container, or at least the mission for it, so at tier 4 Hosho is still the king then?

I wouldn't know, never played them after grinding the T6. T4 does not interest me very much, really.

When I tried the T4 German, I was teamed up with a Hosho, I ended up with ~30% more damage.

Doesn't say much though as usually (when I help a teammate grind) I use Hermes and get 50% more.

 

 

[Procrastes]

11 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said:

Ok so it looks like I will have to wait to grind the tier 4 one, sort of given up hope of it dropping from a container, or at least the mission for it, so at tier 4 Hosho is still the king then?

I seriously doubt that the reign of the Hosho is coming to an end anytime soon.

 

The Rhein dropped out of a container last week, and landed in my port. I've done one (1) battle in her so far, which went abysmally bad. But then again I am very bad at playing CV:s in general, so my performance is no clue to the Rhein's potential. I saw Toptier's video on the Weser, where he goes on to dish out an inhumane amount of damage to his fellow human beings, so the German Flugzeugträge can clearly be played to good effect. The trick seems to lie in knowing how to use those AP rockets, which can land absolutely filthy hits on cruisers and even battleships if you know how to aim properly. When your rocket planes have taken a beating, you can rely on your torpedoes to do some steady albeit limited amount of damage until you have printed a new squadron of rocket planes. The AP bombs seem to be slightly more RNG-dependent than your other ordnance, but I can't say for sure since that's also probably my own lack of skill talking.

 

[N00Boo7]

same here, no missions drop and i got all the free crates possible so far. In all similar events i was getting something till now :), i hope on last directive

[Jvd2000]

I got all the crates until now minus the 2 from the twitch mission. Even dumb enough to buy 6 premium crates out of frustration.. Second last normal  gave me the T6. A bit surprised since I thought they dropped T4->T6->T8. Got also the camo after having troubles getting the required 4 kills.. Torps that do 2k with low flooding chance, rockets that can do multiple citadels to cruisers but even then dmg is not always enough to get the final kill.. Killstealing teammates do not improve the feast either.
 

Much frustration but atleast got the T6 with free perm camo..Still no way to get both the 2 missing cv to get enough coins to get a free tx camo. The waisted money (20€) was probably enough to buy me 1,5 permanent camo directly..

 

Lesson to be learned: don’t be dumb like JVD, don’t buy lootboxes! Just buy that Tx camo directly instead ( and hope that WG does not pull a Moskwa on you..)

[Hopeless_Guppy]

21 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

I seriously doubt that the reign of the Hosho is coming to an end anytime soon.

 

The Rhein dropped out of a container last week, and landed in my port. I've done one (1) battle in her so far, which went abysmally bad. But then again I am very bad at playing CV:s in general, so my performance is no clue to the Rhein's potential. I saw Toptier's video on the Weser, where he goes on to dish out an inhumane amount of damage to his fellow human beings, so the German Flugzeugträge can clearly be played to good effect. The trick seems to lie in knowing how to use those AP rockets, which can land absolutely filthy hits on cruisers and even battleships if you know how to aim properly. When your rocket planes have taken a beating, you can rely on your torpedoes to do some steady albeit limited amount of damage until you have printed a new squadron of rocket planes. The AP bombs seem to be slightly more RNG-dependent than your other ordnance, but I can't say for sure since that's also probably my own lack of skill talking.

 

well if ever I get one straight into a training room lol, just to see how bad I do in any of them.

[lossi_2018]

got t4 last week, gave up on game completely and haven't played since

[NobleRipper]

9 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

I seriously doubt that the reign of the Hosho is coming to an end anytime soon.

 

The Rhein dropped out of a container last week, and landed in my port. I've done one (1) battle in her so far, which went abysmally bad. But then again I am very bad at playing CV:s in general, so my performance is no clue to the Rhein's potential. I saw Toptier's video on the Weser, where he goes on to dish out an inhumane amount of damage to his fellow human beings, so the German Flugzeugträge can clearly be played to good effect. The trick seems to lie in knowing how to use those AP rockets, which can land absolutely filthy hits on cruisers and even battleships if you know how to aim properly. When your rocket planes have taken a beating, you can rely on your torpedoes to do some steady albeit limited amount of damage until you have printed a new squadron of rocket planes. The AP bombs seem to be slightly more RNG-dependent than your other ordnance, but I can't say for sure since that's also probably my own lack of skill talking.

 

Another (very) occasional CV player here, and to be honest I only played the Rhein because I got lucky with a mission drop from a container and thought I might as well try for the permaflage (because how else would people know how skilful I was to have good RNG in an early-access event with a ship I never intend to play again? To be fair she looks pretty good in it in port, in an uninspiringly-wrapped gift parcel kind of way). I played exactly nine games in her (seven Random, two Co-op) so bear that in mind, and I can't speak for any of the others in the tree of course, but for what it's worth:

 

- I actually found the dive bombers to be easier to use than the rocket planes, and it's pretty easy to citadel battleships once you get the hang of the aiming; the reticle is in a quite frankly stupid position however, forcing you to choose between seeing where you're going or what you're aiming at

 

- I didn't find the rocket planes to be so much RNG-dependent as they are dependent on your angle of attack (or the enemy not turning away a couple of degrees while you're aiming), they can citadel in theory but I found it pretty difficult to achieve in an actual battle; also I don't know if it's how all rocket planes work now, but the reticle going forward away from you before you commit to an attack and then coming back towards you for a second or two when you're on the way in was pretty off-putting

 

- The torpedoes are as easy to use as any I suppose, although the damage output is pathetic; those things are supposed to be your primary weapon against destroyers (who says WG did nothing good for April Fools this year?) and yet you'll likely need five or six hits to make a kill on one at full HP, even at half health you'll probably need more than one squadron if anything misses or some of your planes are shot down, which leads me to...

 

- The planes are very fragile in general, and the damage overall tends to be frustratingly low; I watched myself rack up citadel after citadel and yet didn't really seem to get any great damage numbers

 

Overall, the only other carrier I've really played is the Hermes, and personally I'd recommend even that over Rhein. To put that in perspective, Hermes was immensely frustrating for me at the time and convinced me that carrier gameplay just wasn't for me. But again, take all the above with a pinch of salt as your mileage may vary ;)

 

6 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

got t4 last week, gave up on game completely and haven't played since

Sorry to hear that lossi, hope you can find some way of having fun with WoWs again soon! Rhein probably isn't it though, in my opinion...

[HMS_Kilinowski]

I got the T4-Rhein after finishing the 3rd directive and getting ~2/3 of the containers from the bonus missions and all of the containers from Daily Shipments and PTS-rewards.

My impression is that they are much harder to get than other ships of the same tier in earlier events. In those events, active play at least got you the T6-ship, some events even got you perma camos for T5 - T8.

 

The good thing about this one is the T4-camo, since there usually are no perma camos on T4 and T4 does not have a lot of premium ships. Having the T4-CV itself is rather meaningless. I don't need early access as I got enough lines to be busy until the line becomes available and even then german-CVs are not a priority. The Rhein is not bad, but the DB reticule is almost below the planes and the planes lag quite a bit, so you need to watch the reticule rather than the planes to see where you're heading. That makes it a bit difficult to allign your bombers and still watch your surroundings.

[koliber_1984]

50 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said:

Ok so it looks like I will have to wait to grind the tier 4 one, sort of given up hope of it dropping from a container, or at least the mission for it, so at tier 4 Hosho is still the king then?

Dude, I've opened all available to this day containers (like 30something of them), and got my 1st mission (Rhein)in the last one lol.

[Verblonde]

Zero freebies, so far, but I got the T4 and T6 from paid gambling boxes; I rather like the T6 for Ops - provides a bit of variety with the AP rockets.

[lovelacebeer]

I got the tier 4 for free but not played her. 

[Jvd2000]

34 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

got t4 last week, gave up on game completely and haven't played since

Well this event was so set up that it was hardly a surprise that we would not  get any/ few satisfaction from it. Getting a regular T4 is really on the lowest scale of rewards ( even from wg standards, since normally we would get a, rather meh, Premium T5/6 or/ and higher tier ships with perms) and to get that specific permanent camo you have to do extra German only missions..To get a camo that’s irrelevant because of the Tier..

 

Maybe it is good to take a break from WG. You can always decide to come back, or not. 
 

Today my friend, after 90 days of ignoring the game, rejoined through invitation. He got the Warspite ( And Diana Lima) as reward. He was rather burnt out ( that 90+ days off was quite refreshing)  but this did motivate him again to give it a semi fresh start.. And he decided not to do grinds for the sake of fear of missing out “ WG gifts”  So missing out on Odin, Mikoyan or early access to silver ships does no longer bother him.. 
 

 

 

 

[Itwastuesday]

I have the Weser. Dropping a 14k hit on a T6 battleship feels filthy. Doing so to cruiser feels double filthy :D

[159Hunter]

Acquired all crates possible (sunday) and got the tier IV and VI. Need to get my aiming fixed on those rockets. But boy, those AP bombs feel nice.

The torps are just meh, yes they're fast but meh dmg.

[Hades_warrior]

Did all german crates so far = 0 ships.

But even if I did get some I would not play it because I hate that class.

[Jvd2000]

Just now, 159Hunter said:

Acquired all crates possible (sunday) and got the tier IV and VI. Need to get my aiming fixed on those rockets. But boy, those AP bombs feel nice.

The torps are just meh, yes they're fast but meh dmg.

I can’t get the bombs to work. Having difficulty of finding the distance for setting up the bombing run. Torps are ok, but due to dmg almost irrelevant. Rockets are ok to set up but requires a suitable target..

 

Congrats on receiving 2 cv’s!

[Procrastes]

43 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said:

well if ever I get one straight into a training room lol, just to see how bad I do in any of them.

That's precisely what I did, yeah. As a matter of fact, I seldom play CV:s outside of either Co-op or Scenario Battles, since I do so badly in them and I don't want to deprive my team of the effective services of their one and only CV.

[Padds01]

being a CV main and seeing thse were noticeably different i waled up and got them, 

 

dont recommend them. they do damage and i would imagine lookng at the spreadheet they look ok , but theres too many meta issues with them. 

weak planes vulnerabilty to up tiering, inability to hunt DD's , reliance on enemy allowing the attack, the torps are fine, weak but easy thing is they are the worst torp bombers in game for doing the job they are claimed to be for. i guess they do good dmage but offer little to help win

[NobleRipper]

1 hour ago, Procrastes said:

That's precisely what I did, yeah. As a matter of fact, I seldom play CV:s outside of either Co-op or Scenario Battles, since I do so badly in them and I don't want to deprive my team of the effective services of their one and only CV.

So you'd prefer to deprive your Ops team of the effective services from their one and only CV instead? ;)

 

1 hour ago, Verblonde said:

Zero freebies, so far, but I got the T4 and T6 from paid gambling boxes; I rather like the T6 for Ops - provides a bit of variety with the AP rockets.

 

I'm actually moderately interested to hear how the Weser does in Ops, seems like the bombs would be useful against the various battleships that crop up all the time (often as objectives) and torpedoes in Ops are mostly useful for their making the enemy ships dodge, rather than doing much damage...

[Verblonde]

23 minutes ago, NobleSauvage said:

I'm actually moderately interested to hear how the Weser does in Ops

I rarely play CVs against real people (unless a mission or similar calls for it), and avoid Newport entirely; but given that, my current impressions are along the following lines:

• It took me a while to get used to having very little in the way of effective anti-DD weaponry, although the torps will do in a pinch; you seem to generally be better at focusing on what you do well and leave sinking the DDs to your team-mates (plonking fighters on DDs to keep them spotted still works, of course).
• The torps get the job done reasonably well, and - thus far - have been my primary weapon (fwiw I seem to be generally getting 'normal' levels of damage, compared to other CVs, although possibly slightly more towards the lower end of my usual range).
• I keep forgetting I have AP bombs. Because I'm an idiot. I used them a bit more heavily in a battle last week and my damage numbers improved noticeably, but I need to play more to see if that was just fluke. The current scenario has slow and/or stationary BBs, which are splendid targets for the bombs, although I still like torps against the faster ones, as the common floods slow them down for your team-mates to shoot.
• I like the AP rockets, mainly because racking up citadels against cruisers never gets old (even if the damage isn't often that spectacular); I am struggling to reliably hit the forts though (mainly because I'm still getting used to the aiming on these things), so I am needing allied heavies to do their job and silence them.
• Secondaries are nice, and have saved my posterior a few times, mainly against DDs. I'm (possibly) not an idiot though, so secondaries are entirely 'out of the box' (no BFT/AFT or upgrades), just in case I need to play the thing against sensible opposition. I'll be interested to see how the upcoming premium 'proto-GZ' turns out in this regard, but I digress.
• You get biplanes! Doesn't matter one iota for gameplay, but they are pretty...

My overall view is that she's fun for Ops and provides a bit of a change compared to more usual CVs; it's worth getting her, but not worth losing sleep to do so...