[THUG] NastyBossJnr [THUG] Players 25 posts 11,601 battles Report post #1 Posted July 27, 2020 new to warships love the game lots of prizes if one works hard BUT i find myself fighting the best of the best players. its like new players are the cannon fodder of the older players .. just fought a ix cruiser with my vii battleship .. cruiser was stationary battleship moving ... i lost not because of good play the opponent was a very high ranked player that knows the glitches of the game and just wobbled his boat backward forward side to side very slowly using the texture of the game to confuse the eye... his boat kept disappearing even though i was close.. fair play to the player very good but why am i in the same arena as this guy currently it take me all day to win six battles and have lost thirty in a row as a record. I haven't got all day and wont be buying a premium account because of the above...waste of money games need to better balanced all the same levels and ranks as currently the setup is very unfair especially playing against ranked players this would make me quit the game as its not enjoyment thanks for reading 2 3 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #2 Posted July 27, 2020 The game is usually easier at lower tiers. If you play tier 3-5 you won't be abused by better player as much. It's also good to learn the basic mechanics of the game before attempting the high tiers. If it still is frustrating, consider playing co-op battles instead. There are plenty of ways to make it easier for yourself. If you want to improve your abilities, just ask questions how to get better. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #3 Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: new to warships love the game lots of prizes if one works hard BUT i find myself fighting the best of the best players. its like new players are the cannon fodder of the older players .. just fought a ix cruiser with my vii battleship .. cruiser was stationary battleship moving ... i lost not because of good play the opponent was a very high ranked player that knows the glitches of the game and just wobbled his boat backward forward side to side very slowly using the texture of the game to confuse the eye... his boat kept disappearing even though i was close.. fair play to the player very good but why am i in the same arena as this guy currently it take me all day to win six battles and have lost thirty in a row as a record. I haven't got all day and wont be buying a premium account because of the above...waste of money games need to better balanced all the same levels and ranks as currently the setup is very unfair especially playing against ranked players this would make me quit the game as its not enjoyment thanks for reading Game will not be balanced because imbalance "there is always bigger fish" is core element of the game. And as World of Tanks show, correct amount of unpredictability and frustration can turn one small company into worldwide corporation, so why change winning formula? Don't like it? Don't play it. Can't be any simpler than that. 7 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: just fought a ix cruiser with my vii battleship .. cruiser was stationary battleship moving ... i lost not because of good play the opponent was a very high ranked player that knows the glitches of the game and just wobbled his boat backward forward side to side very slowly using the texture of the game to confuse the eye... his boat kept disappearing even though i was close.. fair play to the player very good but why am i in the same arena as this guy That sounds like correct usage of terrain to block LoS while someone else is spotting you. And justly so, because tier 7 BB have no issues obliterating tier 9 cruiser unless you're playing Gneisenau or other small caliber BB against US/German heavy cruiser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #4 Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: new to warships love the game lots of prizes if one works hard BUT i find myself fighting the best of the best players. its like new players are the cannon fodder of the older players .. just fought a ix cruiser with my vii battleship .. cruiser was stationary battleship moving ... i lost not because of good play the opponent was a very high ranked player that knows the glitches of the game and just wobbled his boat backward forward side to side very slowly using the texture of the game to confuse the eye... his boat kept disappearing even though i was close.. fair play to the player very good but why am i in the same arena as this guy currently it take me all day to win six battles and have lost thirty in a row as a record. I haven't got all day and wont be buying a premium account because of the above...waste of money games need to better balanced all the same levels and ranks as currently the setup is very unfair especially playing against ranked players this would make me quit the game as its not enjoyment thanks for reading You are not exactly new. And no, people do not need to abuse "glitches" to outplay you. And you know that player much less experienced and skilled than you can play ranked? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #5 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, NastyBossJnr said: very high ranked player that knows the glitches of the game and just wobbled his boat backward forward side to side very slowly using the texture of the game to confuse the eye... Throwing off aim is a valid tactic which you might try using. You said he was (mostly?) stationary while you were moving? Were you moving in a straight line? Broadside? Change direction and speed to throw off enemy aim. Try to be as unpredictable target as you can. 1 hour ago, NastyBossJnr said: his boat kept disappearing even though i was close.. If you don't know why ships "disappear" and who is spotting the target, you might have "learn to play" problem. Lack of game mechanic knowledge is a real issue if you want to get better and win more games. It gets more emphasized the higher you climb in tiers. 1 hour ago, NastyBossJnr said: currently it take me all day to win six battles and have lost thirty in a row as a record. Days like this happen. Everyone, even the best of players, have losing strikes. It's how you deal with them that matters. In your case, you might wanna look at yourself and what mistakes you are doing. How can you improve your game play to help your team better and win more games. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PISH] Bratoev Players 524 posts 5,416 battles Report post #6 Posted July 27, 2020 OP it would be good to provide a replay so we can see exactly what happened. I would also suggest the How it Works videos since it does sound like either the dude had terain blocking your line of sight to him or you were far enough for his concealment to allow him to go dark. That and using proper angling. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THUG] NastyBossJnr [THUG] Players 25 posts 11,601 battles Report post #7 Posted July 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: You are not exactly new. And no, people do not need to abuse "glitches" to outplay you. And you know that player much less experienced and skilled than you can play ranked? i am yes they do no i dont im new Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THUG] NastyBossJnr [THUG] Players 25 posts 11,601 battles Report post #8 Posted July 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, loppantorkel said: The game is usually easier at lower tiers. If you play tier 3-5 you won't be abused by better player as much. It's also good to learn the basic mechanics of the game before attempting the high tiers. If it still is frustrating, consider playing co-op battles instead. There are plenty of ways to make it easier for yourself. If you want to improve your abilities, just ask questions how to get better. its not easier its fairer i was bleating about dear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #9 Posted July 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: fair play to the player very good but why am i in the same arena as this guy Because thats how MMO games work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: i am yes they do no i dont im new You spend more than 110 h in the game, that is not new bless your ignorance Now you know, playing ranked does not mean a thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THUG] NastyBossJnr [THUG] Players 25 posts 11,601 battles Report post #11 Posted July 27, 2020 the patch the player had stated he was ranked 2 ..i've played ranked games i've survived my team hasn't or vice versa ..to get to a rank 2 you've got to be good some player or not ? maybe it because i dont no the mechanics of the game but to have an patch like my opposition has means they must have played the game for a while and have done well all i was crying about is im new and to fight a player with that experience is unfair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THUG] NastyBossJnr [THUG] Players 25 posts 11,601 battles Report post #12 Posted July 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Because thats how MMO games work whats MMO then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THUG] NastyBossJnr [THUG] Players 25 posts 11,601 battles Report post #13 Posted July 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: You spend more than 110 h in the game, that is not new bless your ignorance Now you know, playing ranked does not mean a thing im on lockdown lol thats why not ignorance truth but its a game if playing ranked does not mean a thing why they have it why do player play it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14 Posted July 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: the patch the player had stated he was ranked 2 ..i've played ranked games i've survived my team hasn't or vice versa ..to get to a rank 2 you've got to be good some player or not ? maybe it because i dont no the mechanics of the game but to have an patch like my opposition has means they must have played the game for a while and have done well all i was crying about is im new and to fight a player with that experience is unfair you do not have to, and you were talking about ranked players in general then learn the mechanics WG cannot protect players with over 1000 matches, there is a time when you have to learn how the game works, if you want to have it easier, stay at Tier V/VI 8 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: im on lockdown lol thats why if playing ranked does not mean a thing why they have it why do player play it I do not care why, it is enough games to not be new anymore for the rewards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #15 Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, NastyBossJnr said: *edit* My intentions were honest and in good heart, I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #16 Posted July 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: its not easier its fairer i was bleating about dear ..but you're mistaken. You don't want it fairer, you want it easier. You've played over 1300 battles according to the info below your name. If you want to perform better, you either need to get better at the game, or choose battles better suited to your skill - lower tiers or co-op. You can't opt out of meeting skilled players in Random games. You can improve your game by asking relevant questions or choose easier modes. You have options. The game is fair enough. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THUG] NastyBossJnr [THUG] Players 25 posts 11,601 battles Report post #17 Posted July 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Bratoev said: OP it would be good to provide a replay so we can see exactly what happened. I would also suggest the How it Works videos since it does sound like either the dude had terain blocking your line of sight to him or you were far enough for his concealment to allow him to go dark. That and using proper angling. not sure how to but its very simple im last boat opponent shows 11km stationary smoke billowing go to aim disappeared this repeats ..shoot to middle of target in between nothing hits .. meanwhile every salvo i receive hits bullseye that seems strange to me but not to others so maybe its just me thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IFS] UnderDuress Players 191 posts 10,109 battles Report post #18 Posted July 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: 53 minutes ago, loppantorkel said: The game is usually easier at lower tiers. If you play tier 3-5 you won't be abused by better player as much. It's also good to learn the basic mechanics of the game before attempting the high tiers. If it still is frustrating, consider playing co-op battles instead. There are plenty of ways to make it easier for yourself. If you want to improve your abilities, just ask questions how to get better. its not easier its fairer i was bleating about dear First reply is offering some advice and offers help if you want to improve...you reply thus. Not sure what “answers” you are looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #19 Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: to get to a rank 2 you've got to be good some player or not ? nope. 1 minute ago, UnderDuress said: Not sure what “answers” you are looking for. Its clear: he wants everyone to join his whinging about "glitching players abusing game mechanics". Which ofc is all in his head because he doesnt understand how the game works. 1 hour ago, NastyBossJnr said: i lost not because of good play the opponent was a very high ranked player that knows the glitches of the game and just wobbled his boat backward forward side to side very slowly using the texture of the game to confuse the eye. Nope. You got outplayed. Enemy was better then you. A lot. take it or leave it. And btw: the way you replied to another forumite, who gave you sound advice, and chose to insult him - you aint gonna get symphatie here buddy. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #20 Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, NastyBossJnr said: why did you even bother to answer my post all youve done is slag me off go find a life cretin Another ignorant [edited]. You give them an advice and you get this. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEEL] IJN_Mikasa [STEEL] Players 89 posts Report post #21 Posted July 27, 2020 Vor 1 Stunde, NastyBossJnr sagte: the opponent was a very high ranked player Which does not mean anything, least of all superior skill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #22 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, NastyBossJnr said: new to warships love the game lots of prizes if one works hard BUT i find myself fighting the best of the best players. its like new players are the cannon fodder of the older players .. just fought a ix cruiser with my vii battleship .. cruiser was stationary battleship moving ... i lost not because of good play the opponent was a very high ranked player that knows the glitches of the game and just wobbled his boat backward forward side to side very slowly using the texture of the game to confuse the eye... his boat kept disappearing even though i was close.. fair play to the player very good but why am i in the same arena as this guy currently it take me all day to win six battles and have lost thirty in a row as a record. I haven't got all day and wont be buying a premium account because of the above...waste of money games need to better balanced all the same levels and ranks as currently the setup is very unfair especially playing against ranked players this would make me quit the game as its not enjoyment thanks for reading 1. You have a better chance educating yourself how things work in this game, than to change the game to your liking. 2. If a ship moves or not has very little to do with what it can/cant do. 3. You claim you didnt lose because of good play, yet claim, the player was very good because of his high rank. Contradiction much? 4. High rank is no indication of skill. Ranked is not an indication of skill either. You can play ranked or can you not? 5. Game mechanics are not glitches, again, you need to educate yourself. Instead of whine here, should have asked for help, you would have gotten A LOT of people willing to help. But now you came whine here AND insult other established forumites for no reason, who even gave you a decent answer. You just lowered your chances to get advice from others. 6. WG will never change randoms. Everyone is in the same pool, so better deal with it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FL4-0] Piruvato Players 41 posts 11,881 battles Report post #23 Posted July 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, loppantorkel said: ... The game is fair enough. Funpolice comming at you On topic. This game lacks of proper tutorial. I would like to see those "glitches". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #24 Posted July 27, 2020 with 1,315 battles you will learn here only some game basics , better start play all ships from low tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Saltface Players 2,062 posts 18,464 battles Report post #25 Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, NastyBossJnr said: *edit* really now? Maybe we have a case of "reflected damage" here or a mirror 404 case. 5 hours ago, NastyBossJnr said: why am i in the same arena as this guy This is the only part of your post that has any value. And it is a very valid question. Why are you in the same arena with that player? You clearly don't deserve to be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites