[-S3I-] Peroidas Players 238 posts 5,772 battles Report post #1 Posted July 20, 2020 I mean those situations when you want to finish the directive, but MM constantly drops you into the losing team. In the last 2 days I had 10-11 losses in 12-14 matches. Strange thing is that most of those battles were in fact quite enjoyable to play, as I was doing very well (for me) with around 100k and 1000-1200 bXP (playing JB and occasionally Lex). In fact yesterday I got my all time record dmg battle (166k). But constant losses are ruining my WR and are quite frustrating, especially as I got premium and flagged up to repair my credit budget after buying some new ships w/upgrades, so I feel I am loosing on all those dragon flags and camos I am burning in the lost games. Yesterday I went on (and got only first 3 daily missions), but today I switched to coop after third loss in four games - a game in Lexington where my team combined sunk 2 ships (including 1 dd by me) in a battle that lasted 11 minutes that was irrecoverable after 5th or 6th minute. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #2 Posted July 20, 2020 Edit: you have played 0 battles under the name Peroidas in last 21 days so the point of the post is??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-S3I-] Peroidas Players 238 posts 5,772 battles Report post #3 Posted July 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, waxx25 said: You could stop playing CV's for starters. Actually, I was playing JB mostly (all but 1 battle lost), as she is my best credit earner, while 2 of those 3 won battles were in Lex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,553 battles Report post #4 Posted July 20, 2020 Just stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #5 Posted July 20, 2020 The game doesn't hate me.....most of its players do.... Unicums because i am supposedly not good enough to give opinions or advices. In game enemies because they think i am using overpowered CV...the higher the results, the more reports and chatbans. ( although i learned to stay silent when having some CV killing spree or causing sudden explosions, so a chatban is impossible as revenge ) New to me is hate when im operating DD.......not rushing to a cap going for spotting/torpedoing capital ships is good for reports. Getting killed when rushing to a cap is good for reports. Killing enemies from invisibility is good for reports....rapid firing from smoke in Friesland.....reports. And ofcourse in Smolensk staying alive ( certainly not always ) while machinegunning BB from smoke.....reports. Does this player hate impress me ? Nope...to me the are all "reds" and they function as targets to be destroyed in game whatever they may think themeselves to be.....hate or toxic talk does not make them any more dangerous. Were there more Operations with good rewards i'd probably not play randoms though. Bots do not mewl and spout toxidity especially when losing. Bots do not file revenge reports & chat bans. Bots do not demand personal interest motivated spotting, personal interest motivated DD hunting or personal interest motivated fighter consumables...and reports if you dare ignore them. Bots do not think they are very special "unicums" with special rights. Bots do not bragg. Bots do not boast. Bots have no WR so will not resort to all kinds of exploitive behaviour to polish their WR up. Most bots do not flee or hide and fight valliantly. So why not get the hell out of randoms and play with my so prefered bots ? Well WG doesnt invest in Operations.....and has seen fit to nerf credit and XP income from that. So i must farm humans in CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted July 20, 2020 Games are things. Things do not hate. No, never happened to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #7 Posted July 20, 2020 Just see the game for what it is - a game about ships that go boom-boom and planes that go zoom-zoom. Block out everything else for a while and you can have fun. That's what I try to do at least. And it works. Things like below don't bother me so much anymore. Just an annoying thing that eventually goes away and everything goes back to normal. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #8 Posted July 21, 2020 Havent played in days. Enjoying the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #9 Posted July 21, 2020 Easy, stop playing and go do something else. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #10 Posted July 21, 2020 play something else :D 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eternus_Damnatio Players 866 posts 8,891 battles Report post #11 Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Beastofwar said: The game doesn't hate me.....most of its players do.... Unicums because i am supposedly not good enough to give opinions or advices. In game enemies because they think i am using overpowered CV...the higher the results, the more reports and chatbans. ( although i learned to stay silent when having some CV killing spree or causing sudden explosions, so a chatban is impossible as revenge ) New to me is hate when im operating DD.......not rushing to a cap going for spotting/torpedoing capital ships is good for reports. Getting killed when rushing to a cap is good for reports. Killing enemies from invisibility is good for reports....rapid firing from smoke in Friesland.....reports. And ofcourse in Smolensk staying alive ( certainly not always ) while machinegunning BB from smoke.....reports. Does this player hate impress me ? Nope...to me the are all "reds" and they function as targets to be destroyed in game whatever they may think themeselves to be.....hate or toxic talk does not make them any more dangerous. Were there more Operations with good rewards i'd probably not play randoms though. Bots do not mewl and spout toxidity especially when losing. Bots do not file revenge reports & chat bans. Bots do not demand personal interest motivated spotting, personal interest motivated DD hunting or personal interest motivated fighter consumables...and reports if you dare ignore them. Bots do not think they are very special "unicums" with special rights. Bots do not bragg. Bots do not boast. Bots have no WR so will not resort to all kinds of exploitive behaviour to polish their WR up. Most bots do not flee or hide and fight valliantly. So why not get the hell out of randoms and play with my so prefered bots ? Well WG doesnt invest in Operations.....and has seen fit to nerf credit and XP income from that. So i must farm humans in CV. Think you are using OP CV lol CV's are broken everyone knows it WG knows it apparently you never got the memo. If you are playing your DD poorly your team will of course not be happy and yes you will get the odd guy that just decides you should be doing exactly what he wants thats nothing new or special. Smolensk unsurprisingly gets hate RU balistics on a HE spammer that gets smoke hydro and 8km torps you play it expect it deal with it. Bots don't hide and fight valiantly ha.. haha..... hahahahahaha bots just yolo and provide no challenge and you seem to think you should earn more for fighting bots which is frankly laughable. Stay in CO OP your teams will be better for it by the sounds of it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #12 Posted July 21, 2020 i play even more till i realize that i have -200 winrate drop. funny part is after i play the Ranked Sixteenth Season , my winrate has been started increase , maybe you need todo that as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #13 Posted July 21, 2020 Ok ok.. its fun. . now stop de-railing the topic gentlemen.. and please use english. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eternus_Damnatio Players 866 posts 8,891 battles Report post #14 Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Excavatus said: Ok ok.. its fun. . now stop de-railing the topic gentlemen.. and please use english. Sigh... if we have to 9 hours ago, Peroidas said: I mean those situations when you want to finish the directive, but MM constantly drops you into the losing team. In the last 2 days I had 10-11 losses in 12-14 matches. Strange thing is that most of those battles were in fact quite enjoyable to play, as I was doing very well (for me) with around 100k and 1000-1200 bXP (playing JB and occasionally Lex). In fact yesterday I got my all time record dmg battle (166k). But constant losses are ruining my WR and are quite frustrating, especially as I got premium and flagged up to repair my credit budget after buying some new ships w/upgrades, so I feel I am loosing on all those dragon flags and camos I am burning in the lost games. Yesterday I went on (and got only first 3 daily missions), but today I switched to coop after third loss in four games - a game in Lexington where my team combined sunk 2 ships (including 1 dd by me) in a battle that lasted 11 minutes that was irrecoverable after 5th or 6th minute. You either struggle through it or take a break, Are you playing solo or in a division ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-S3I-] Peroidas Players 238 posts 5,772 battles Report post #15 Posted July 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Miragetank90 said: Just see the game for what it is - a game about ships that go boom-boom and planes that go zoom-zoom. Block out everything else for a while and you can have fun. That's what I try to do at least. And it works. Things like below don't bother me so much anymore. Just an annoying thing that eventually goes away and everything goes back to normal. Ha, it's reassuring to hear it is something that happens even to the best players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TMCF] Herbstnebel1975 Players 478 posts 10,346 battles Report post #16 Posted July 21, 2020 I've watched a few times some players via streamingsite TWITCH when they were playing World of Tanks and I think that those are the guys who are allways be in the winningteams even without being supergood. These streamings are like commercials and it won't be good for the game if you would see 10 defeats in a row. Not at all that would be the game you want to play. Maybe it works for WoWs also, start streaming on twitch and make sure you got a lot of viewers and WG is informed about it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space_Vato Players 59 posts 480 battles Report post #17 Posted July 21, 2020 Don't try to play WG's MM. It is possibly the same as in WoT. (Google "Wargaming MM patent" ) I wouldn't be surprised b.t.w. If you play a few good rounds in a certain ship, you get put in "difficult" matches with that same ship. The game will challenge you... And WoWs doesn't have "balanced" teams either, just like WoT. With not balanced I mean that players with better stats can be STACKED by the MM. The excuse usually is "well it is random, so it should ("should", but that doesn't mean it will) even out in the long run". And no, I don't have to go and talk about what random means, how it works etc. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #18 Posted July 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Herbstnebel1975 said: I've watched a few times some players via streamingsite TWITCH when they were playing World of Tanks and I think that those are the guys who are allways be in the winningteams even without being supergood. These streamings are like commercials and it won't be good for the game if you would see 10 defeats in a row. Not at all that would be the game you want to play. Maybe it works for WoWs also, start streaming on twitch and make sure you got a lot of viewers and WG is informed about it There are enough bad streamers out there. And streaming in itself is a positive selection process. The better you are, the more viewers you get. The more popular ones tend to be better at the game. 4 minutes ago, Space_Vato said: If you play a few good rounds in a certain ship, you get put in "difficult" matches with that same ship. But that does not happen. 5 minutes ago, Space_Vato said: The excuse usually is "well it is random, so it should ("should", but that doesn't mean it will) even out in the long run". It does. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #19 Posted July 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Herbstnebel1975 said: Maybe it works for WoWs also, start streaming on twitch and make sure you got a lot of viewers and WG is informed about it you mean be CC, i sometimes thinked that those guys get a somesort special MM 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space_Vato Players 59 posts 480 battles Report post #20 Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: 1. But that does not happen. 2.It does. 1. Sure it doesn't happen? (I mean, if it really doesn't, that is very cool. But then again, I have experienced WG's practice since the closed beta of WoT. So hard to imagine.... anyways) 2. It is random, so it might or it might not. You can't be certain. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_Renegade Players 855 posts 7,183 battles Report post #21 Posted July 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Admiral_Oily_Discharge said: play something else :D I go sky diving :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #22 Posted July 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Space_Vato said: 1. Sure it doesn't happen? (I mean, if it really doesn't, that is very cool. But then again, I have experienced WG's practice since the closed beta of WoT. So hard to imagine.... anyways) 2. It is random, so it might or it might not. You can't be certain. Sure Law of big numbers. I am pretty sure that I am not THAT unlucky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-S3I-] Peroidas Players 238 posts 5,772 battles Report post #23 Posted July 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, Space_Vato said: It is possibly the same as in WoT. (Google "Wargaming MM patent" ) I wouldn't be surprised b.t.w. If you play a few good rounds in a certain ship, you get put in "difficult" matches with that same ship. I noticed the same thing. But on the other hand, I also got winning streaks where I definitely wasn't a reason for my team winning. As if MM rolled a random number generator once in a while (once a a few days? a week?) to determine if the player gets into good or bad team for the following period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #24 Posted July 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Eternus_Damnatio said: Think you are using OP CV lol CV's are broken everyone knows it WG knows it apparently you never got the memo. Great tool for killing toxic players. Quote If you are playing your DD poorly your team will of course not be happy and yes you will get the odd guy that just decides you should be doing exactly what he wants thats nothing new or special. What is playing poorly ? If i get into the top 3 region of the score list i think i did the right things.......i don't care if a camper BB gets a spot from me, i care about the indrect damage score it gives me. So that is why i provide spotting in the 1st place. I don't care about the small cap reward, killing a few BB form invisibility awards far more and is more fun to do. I don't care about contesting caps.....i will take them when it is safe to do so. Bad DD play eh ? In my opinion that are all DD that are not DD-killer-type-DD that still rush into caps with inferior to that type DD. What are they thinking ? Are they thinking ? Ofcourse they die when running into such DD-killer-type-DD. Ofcourse you die when being lit up in the face of DD-killer-Cruisers. Ofcourse you die when CV strike fighters fall upon you. What the hell is a DD doing there ????? Quote Smolensk unsurprisingly gets hate RU balistics on a HE spammer that gets smoke hydro and 8km torps you play it expect it deal with it. Mass hysteria incited by some CC and "unicums" who hate to be limited/kept in check by it's precence. Just like CV in fact. In reality it is not that different from some other smoke Cruisers and even ultra-high ROF miniature-Cruiser DD's. Quote Bots don't hide and fight valiantly ha.. haha..... hahahahahaha bots just yolo and provide no challenge and you seem to think you should earn more for fighting bots which is frankly laughable. That is why in some operations almost all players are dead before half time ? haha haha The challenge they provide is already too much for most players....... Quote Stay in CO OP your teams will be better for it by the sounds of it. I don't play Coop.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knutorius Players 231 posts 4,974 battles Report post #25 Posted July 21, 2020 I play CV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites