[-RDE-] humpty_1 Players 496 posts 41,004 battles Report post #1 Posted July 20, 2020 hi all :) am i wrong or has getting steel from cbs become harder? before in squall league you get 100 steel per win, now you get 150 for 3 wins. so for 30 wins we get 1750 in total if my maths is right. but before we got 1500 for 15 wins.. or am i just remembering it wrong and if i'm not why the change? thanks one of the main reason for cbs is to grab steel and after the cv debacle you'd think you'd be trying to entice people back not make us think meh... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] konean Players 418 posts 12,620 battles Report post #2 Posted July 20, 2020 Its 1k less than last season and they reshuffled the distribution within the leagues. They removed some from Typhoon and moved most of it to Gale and Storm and a little rest to Hurricane, so they made it actually easier for players to get steel. Spoiler Old Season: New Season: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #3 Posted July 20, 2020 is it going to be this way from now onwards or is it temporary ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RDE-] humpty_1 Players 496 posts 41,004 battles Report post #4 Posted July 20, 2020 my point/disapointment isn't so much the amount we get but the amount of wins needed. before was 15 now it's 30. granted when you move up a lvl you still get the rewards from the lvl before but what about the ones who don't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] konean Players 418 posts 12,620 battles Report post #5 Posted July 20, 2020 Well you have to actually play clan battles to get the steel, same with other ressources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOYAI] KielYourself Players 350 posts 16,998 battles Report post #6 Posted July 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, humpty_1 said: my point/disapointment isn't so much the amount we get but the amount of wins needed. before was 15 now it's 30. granted when you move up a lvl you still get the rewards from the lvl before but what about the ones who don't? Then you dont get the steel. Logical. T6 made it easier for more clans to participate so it is good that it requires more wins to get steel. @Admiral_Oily_Discharge depends on the tier of the season. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garrison2012 ∞ Players 128 posts 11,822 battles Report post #7 Posted July 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Miki12345 said: Then you dont get the steel. Logical. T6 made it easier for more clans to participate so it is good that it requires more wins to get steel. @Admiral_Oily_Discharge depends on the tier of the season. Why is it good? If you have a small clan that is only going to be able to play occasionally and may struggle to get out of Gale why should they be penalised for playing this season rather than previous ones? If WG genuinely want more Clans to participate surely they should improve the lower level rewards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOYAI] KielYourself Players 350 posts 16,998 battles Report post #8 Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Garrison2012 said: Why is it good? If you have a small clan that is only going to be able to play occasionally and may struggle to get out of Gale why should they be penalised for playing this season rather than previous ones? If WG genuinely want more Clans to participate surely they should improve the lower level rewards? Its not a penalization, its an adjustment. If youre struggling you need to improve, i know it might sound harsh and insensitive and I do not mean it in that way just saying that if you want the steel you also need to put in the work for it. Improving low level rewards might just have the opposite effect, people grind a few ez steel and go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garrison2012 ∞ Players 128 posts 11,822 battles Report post #9 Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Miki12345 said: Its not a penalization, its an adjustment. If youre struggling you need to improve, i know it might sound harsh and insensitive and I do not mean it in that way just saying that if you want the steel you also need to put in the work for it. Improving low level rewards might just have the opposite effect, people grind a few ez steel and go away. Which might be sound logic, if you couldn't now literally earn Steel every day by stumbling your way through a few co-op battles. It frankly seems more like an effort to discourage smaller clans from going to the effort of organizing teams and taking part in CB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,244 battles Report post #10 Posted July 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Garrison2012 said: Which might be sound logic, if you couldn't now literally earn Steel every day by stumbling your way through a few co-op battles. It frankly seems more like an effort to discourage smaller clans from going to the effort of organizing teams and taking part in CB. I'm struggling to see which part is confusing you. CBs are more accessible than ever being at tier 6 and (total) steel reward is almost matching usual tier 10 steel rewards. You only need to play couple of games more. For a clan that realistically won't be able to push for typhoon/hurricane there is more than enough time to collect all the squall/gale/storm rewards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garrison2012 ∞ Players 128 posts 11,822 battles Report post #11 Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, quickr said: I'm struggling to see which part is confusing you. CBs are more accessible than ever being at tier 6 and (total) steel reward is almost matching usual tier 10 steel rewards. You only need to play couple of games more. For a clan that realistically won't be able to push for typhoon/hurricane there is more than enough time to collect all the squall/gale/storm rewards. Well since I'm not confused I can only assume you just misunderstood my post. The point is that the rewards for Squall have been diluted and now require more battles to collect, meaning it is harder for those clans with limited numbers to collect those rewards and this is hardly an incentive for them to take part, especially when WG has made it easier to get Steel without playing CBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,244 battles Report post #12 Posted July 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Garrison2012 said: Well since I'm not confused I can only assume you just misunderstood my post. The point is that the rewards for Squall have been diluted and now require more battles to collect, meaning it is harder for those clans with limited numbers to collect those rewards and this is hardly an incentive for them to take part, especially when WG has made it easier to get Steel without playing CBs. Amazing how you are able to completely ignore the fact that CB is at tier 6 (with tier 10 rewards) allowing your less experienced players, guys with 1k played games and barely any tier 10 ship to participate. Consequentially boosting the numbers of players in your clan able to take part. Oh and good luck earning enough steel for tier 10 ship solely by collecting daily rewards. It will take only, what, couple of years. No big deal. WG really made it easy for you guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] floribe2000 [TTT] Moderator, WoWs Wiki Team, Freibeuter 2,714 posts 7,752 battles Report post #13 Posted July 20, 2020 Steel was introduced as a special resource, available for good clans/players but not meant to be easily available for everyone. 30 wins in squall or gale are not a problem at all, if you want the steel, you have to do something for it. Before it was really easy to get the steel from the lower leagues but now it's at least a little bit more difficult. And keep in mind that T6 battles often don't last as long as T10 battles (we finished most of our battles within 10 and 15 minutes, on T10 the battles were usually 15 minutes or longer (except for the lower leagues where the enemy clan was just stomped by us). If you are unable to win 30 battles over a time of 6 weeks you really don't deserve to get that steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RDE-] humpty_1 Players 496 posts 41,004 battles Report post #14 Posted July 20, 2020 another problem is with my clan and with others i'd think is that only 10 ppl play cbs regular so we need to rotate so limiting the amount of games one can play so again making it harder to get steel. and it's not just about lower lvls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #15 Posted July 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, humpty_1 said: another problem is with my clan and with others i'd think is that only 10 ppl play cbs regular so we need to rotate so limiting the amount of games one can play so again making it harder to get steel. and it's not just about lower lvls Which is the same for most clans with active members. We have ~15 people taking part in this current season, and we rotate teams around or play 2 teams so we partly don't get burned out but also so people have a chance to get the rewards. And so far in the previous seasons getting most if not all of the rewards have been entirely possible for everyone who took part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RDE-] humpty_1 Players 496 posts 41,004 battles Report post #16 Posted July 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, ollonborre said: Which is the same for most clans with active members. We have ~15 people taking part in this current season, and we rotate teams around or play 2 teams so we partly don't get burned out but also so people have a chance to get the rewards. And so far in the previous seasons getting most if not all of the rewards have been entirely possible for everyone who took part. as we did in ours, but now we need to do twice as much is all i'm saying. meaning more grind. a couple of hours weds/thurs/ sat or sun depending on night out or takeaway was enough. but imho this format makes it just worse... :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garrison2012 ∞ Players 128 posts 11,822 battles Report post #17 Posted July 20, 2020 Look I just think it's an unnecessary and counterproductive action on WG's part if they are trying to encourage more people to play CB. Other people feel differently,? Well that's their privilege. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_Renegade Players 855 posts 7,183 battles Report post #18 Posted July 20, 2020 I can't even afford a Flint let alone the chrome paint for Yamato, I would totally pay in RB points for Steel! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #19 Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SpartanRenegade said: I can't even afford a Flint let alone the chrome paint for Yamato, I would totally pay in RB points for Steel! Lucky you. I was able to afford it just barely and later learned it was going to be sold for coal. Happy times 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #20 Posted July 20, 2020 If i could give my steel to you guys i would, because i dont really care about it anyway. I play the gamemode because its good fun. But nonetheless, steel has become more easily available compared to when it was first introduced. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #21 Posted July 21, 2020 8 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said: If i could give my steel to you guys i would, because i dont really care about it anyway. I play the gamemode because its good fun. But nonetheless, steel has become more easily available compared to when it was first introduced. There isn’t a good steel ship to pick anymore anyway. And the camo is extremely overpriced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #22 Posted July 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said: There isn’t a good steel ship to pick anymore anyway. And the camo is extremely overpriced. Camo looks hella nice tho. ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #23 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, GarrusBrutus said: Camo looks hella nice tho. ;) Yes, will be on my radar if it can be obtained by coal in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,244 battles Report post #24 Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, GarrusBrutus said: Camo looks hella nice tho. ;) To be honest, no it doesn't, at least not to me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #25 Posted July 21, 2020 22 hours ago, humpty_1 said: another problem is with my clan and with others i'd think is that only 10 ppl play cbs regular so we need to rotate so limiting the amount of games one can play so again making it harder to get steel. and it's not just about lower lvls Not really, say you need to rotate out for a bit and then your clan gets to Gale. You have missed some squall steel - but you will get it when you win in Gale. As such a win in a higher league will (sort of) double-pay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
