What am I supposed to do?

[vaapad_master]

What am I supposed to do in my Yamato when enemy has Thunderer and Conqueror on the same flank as I am?

How about giving us scuttling option? That would help me very much WG!

[DFens_666]

Shoot them for free damage?

Basicly every other BB is worse off (well except shiki and Musashi) since they cant even overmatch their 32mm of armor, which Yamashisashi ()can.

[vaapad_master]

2 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Shoot them for free damage?

Basicly every other BB is worse off (well except shiki and Musashi) since they cant even overmatch their 32mm of armor, which Yamashisashi ()can.

They were both kiting away angled and farming me because aiming with HE requires great skill to do damage.

[ColonelPete]

14 minutes ago, Toni112007 said:

What am I supposed to do in my Yamato when enemy has Thunderer and Conqueror on the same flank as I am?

How about giving us scuttling option? That would help me very much WG!

• Keep moving
• Get them into crossfire
• When you are alone, disengage
• Prevent being alone in the first place

[vaapad_master]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

• Keep moving
• Get them into crossfire
• When you are alone, disengage
• Prevent being alone in the first place

Well I wasn't alone at first but then suddenly in a blink of eye (2-3 minutes max) team mates on my flank suddenly were at bottom of the ocean floor.

[GulvkluderGuld]

30 minutes ago, Toni112007 said:

They were both kiting away angled and farming me because aiming with HE requires great skill to do damage.

why not stop shooting and disengage the 1v2? Let them push and farm with AP while you kite for a change..

[VeteranGamer84]

39 minutes ago, Toni112007 said:

What am I supposed to do in my Yamato when enemy has Thunderer and Conqueror on the same flank as I am?

How about giving us scuttling option? That would help me very much WG!

RUN!

[Itwastuesday]

If your team dies, just farm whatever damage you can.

[Strapps]

I believe standard procedure is to start typing insults in chat about how bad your team mates are and if there's a CV on your team, blame him for the inevitable loss, regardless of whether the two enemy ships are the only ones left and you're about to win because half your team is in their cap. Don't forget to report everyone you can for bad play because the loss of a karma point will make them reconsider every aspect of their life, not just in the game.

 

Hope that helps.

[vaapad_master]

5 hours ago, Strapps said:

I believe standard procedure is to start typing insults in chat about how bad your team mates are and if there's a CV on your team, blame him for the inevitable loss, regardless of whether the two enemy ships are the only ones left and you're about to win because half your team is in their cap. Don't forget to report everyone you can for bad play because the loss of a karma point will make them reconsider every aspect of their life, not just in the game.

 

Hope that helps.

Yes.

[RAHJAILARI]

14 hours ago, Toni112007 said:

What am I supposed to do in my Yamato when enemy has Thunderer and Conqueror on the same flank as I am?

How about giving us scuttling option? That would help me very much WG!

Well, this IS a wargame of sorts, so perhaps fighting back might be an option you could consider?

 

But on the off-chance that you'd actually want some pro-tips on how to counter them instead of just getting trolled in forum, I suggest changing your starting comment a weedle-bit to tempt some of our better BB players to help you out here (sorry lad, but it does sound awfully whiny).

 

Unfortunately, I find the same issue a problem myself so I can't help you out here BUT I would surely like to know how for my own future reference.

[TheBicentennialman]

1. aim for there citadel
2. zig n zag
3. fire He at them

we all ready have scouting it call dd/cv

 

[multitronic1]

As someone who likes to play these nasty Brit BBs, here's my doubtful advice: Whatever u do, dont push into them! They have a disgusting stopping power against heavy ships like Yama and Kurfurst, as these are so broad and offer a large target, and angling does not help a bit. It takes just a few HE salvos to wreck a pushing Yamato, as u know, so stay back and wait if long range cruisers such as Moskva, Yoshino or Petro appear. The British BBs do not like HE spam at all, they take massive damage due to their weak armour. So be patient and pick your time wisely. If nothing presents itself, switch sides or move more to the centre, better place to be for a Yamato on most maps anyway.

[DFens_666]

9 hours ago, Toni112007 said:

They were both kiting away angled and farming me because aiming with HE requires great skill to do damage.

 

They cant angle against Yamato shells. Same as you cant angle against their HE, but your AP does more damage. If they kite, they give up map control. Take objective and move away, or move behind island. You dont want to push them, but usually you dont have to, because you can just wipe the floor with the enemy team, who have 2 BBs being useless sitting in their spawn. Dodging shells from 20km (where they usually sit) should not be a big problem, especially Thunderer which is rather accurate and has only 8 shells.

 

If i play Thunderer, Yamato + sisters are the ones i DONT want to have on my flank. They effectively make it so much harder to be aggressive, as they can just whack you for 10+k fairly easily.

 

1 hour ago, TheBicentennialman said:

1. aim for there citadel
2. zig n zag
3. fire He at them

we all ready have scouting it call dd/cv

 

 

1+3 together doesnt really make sense

And shooting HE in a Yamato against RN BBs is the worst thing you can do.

 

58 minutes ago, multitronic1 said:

The British BBs do not like HE spam at all, they take massive damage due to their weak armour.

 

Conqueror is one of the BBs, which is most resilient to HE, because of the disgusting superheal. Fires are fully repairable and it heals 75% of HE pen damage aswell, coupled with a heal that almost prints half a ship.

[multitronic1]

You are totally right about the Conqueror heal, of course. What I meant is rather a sustained barrage of HE spam, due to the high pen chance on the weak armour, you melt very quickly. You quoted the stats allready, nevertheless that plus the longer cooldwon phase do not make me want to sit in a torrent of Smolensk or Hindi HE, even in a Conqu. Same goes for other BBs with 32 mm armour as well, such as Republique.

[lafeel]

30 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Conqueror is one of the BBs, which is most resilient to HE, because of the disgusting superheal. Fires are fully repairable and it heals 75% of HE pen damage aswell, coupled with a heal that almost prints half a ship.

She however does have considerably more of a issue fixing AP damage.

[COPlUM]

Conqueror can do stuff your ship cant, your ship can do stuff conqueror cant. This whole game is rock paper scissors, im annoyed in american BBs seeing yamatos blap things I can only scratch from those distances, but when I get within 15km of one I get at least 24 shells off  before yamato manages to point its guns at me. If you were trading HE with a conqueror then yes, you ate a crap sandwich, if you looked at eachother funny earlier from 20km away, he would have eaten a crap sandwich. Try to appreciate what your ship can do well instead of what it cant

[Humorpalanta]

How do you fight a kiting Conqkek? (From a kiting Conqkek player's advise list)

 

Rule 1: Rule the engagement. (He will kite and take HE shots at you to farm and start fires. So take a look at your surroundings and check what else is around. If it is safe, turn around and just leave. If not, push a bit, use an island to turn. If it is far away you can easily turn around.)

Rule 2: Once you are the boss learn to fight back. ( Yammi AP will go through that ship like butter. He cannot do anything. Aim the citadels and kill it. Do not take potshots. If he is far and kites leave him. He will eventually have to turn when you can shoot it or he will be faaar away from everything.)

Rule 3: A Conqkek alone is in a massive danger. Kill his teammates and take cover. If he wants to win he will have to come close where you can wreck it or you will win anyways.

Rule 4: Don't push a kiting Conqkek unless it is game end and your team wins even if he kills you and someone else.

Rule 5: Decide and commit. If you decide to push it then push to an island to take cover. Don't go further. If you decide to turn away stay away. Don't make up your mind every 3 minutes because he will farm you down.

 

I hope I gave you enough help and will improve your help. However don't use it against me!

[HaachamaShipping]

58 minutes ago, multitronic1 said:

You are totally right about the Conqueror heal, of course. What I meant is rather a sustained barrage of HE spam, due to the high pen chance on the weak armour, you melt very quickly. You quoted the stats allready, nevertheless that plus the longer cooldwon phase do not make me want to sit in a torrent of Smolensk or Hindi HE, even in a Conqu. Same goes for other BBs with 32 mm armour as well, such as Republique.

Conqueror is one of the BBs least bothered by the Smolensk and Hindenburg though. Hindenburg with 50 mm pens almost every BB at T10, Smolensk with is peashooters pens almost nothing. In either case, Conqueror has no disadvantage. Conqueror does care if something like Zao, Des Moines, Worcester or such show up, ships that pen 32 mm, but don't just go and pen the whole 50 mm like Hinden does. Similarly, Conqueror doesn't care when Yamato shoots HE. You basically laugh your [edited]off, because the yamato HE dpm is way worse than yours, its fire chance is way worse than yours, its ability to tank the HE shells and repair is way worse than yours. Meanwhile an AP shell can straight up overmatch your ship at any angle above the belt, drop down on the citadel, overmatch the citadel deck and hit you for a good chunk of your hp pool that you can only repair 10% of (33% in Thunderer, but still worse than repairing 60% of pen damage).

 

Conqueror also no longer has a longer CD phase, it has a normal 80s CD, Thunderer even has just 60s.

46 minutes ago, lafeel said:

She however does have considerably more of a issue fixing AP damage.

From citadels, yes. Pens, no, 75% restoration is insane.

[_DeathWing_]

[multitronic1]

Thanks for the clarification about the CD!

I think you have to differentiate regarding which range we are talking about: Below a certain range, Yama easily overmatches from any angle (I am fairly sure that is around and below 10 Km), I have felt that painfully in my Thunderer. But around say, 20-24 Km, I have hardly ever been citadelled by a Yama, when angled except for the occasional lucky shot. Perhaps all my opponents have so far been potatoes, and you experienced guys would easily wreck a Conqu from max range in your Yamas, or the accuracy just is not enough to land enough damage from that distance. Too many shells miss or bounce. If a British BB comes too close and cannot go into cover, it has misplayed and will die fairly quickly, in my experience.

[Taliesn]

13 hours ago, Toni112007 said:

What am I supposed to do in my Yamato when enemy has Thunderer and Conqueror on the same flank as I am?

How about giving us scuttling option? That would help me very much WG!

 

Unless they are kiting away TOWARDS the caps, why follow them? Go dark, reposition and simply let them move away from the action after letting them farm you for as long as you can and that's two enemy ships that are contributing nothing to their team's winning chances.

[BrusilovX]

11 hours ago, Strapps said:

I believe standard procedure is to start typing insults in chat about how bad your team mates are and if there's a CV on your team, blame him for the inevitable loss, regardless of whether the two enemy ships are the only ones left and you're about to win because half your team is in their cap. Don't forget to report everyone you can for bad play because the loss of a karma point will make them reconsider every aspect of their life, not just in the game.

 

Hope that helps.

And then get a chat ban....

 

[Flock_Undead]

5 hours ago, TheBicentennialman said:

1. aim for there citadel
2. zig n zag
3. fire He at them

we all ready have scouting it call dd/cv

 

Did you just advice a Yamato player to shoot HE at a Conqueror and Thunderer ?

 

I might have to call the Gulag Managing team ....

[U69_2020]

Dive!