Favourite Historical Scenarios as Basis for Operations

[TheAlba2014]

Hello all 

 

We've had a themed operation based around the Dunkirk evacuation. Hypothetically, if WG were to introduce other operations themed on historical naval actions what would be your favourite scenario to be introduced into the game?

 

Bear in mind we have subs potentially coming to the game (ops being best mode for them to my mind, but that's another topic), so your scenario could include those too.

 

Personally, since we have Campbeltown in game I'd like to see the St Nazaire Raid, where you'd have to escort Campbeltown to it's final destination.

 

Look forward to reading different suggestions people have! 

[Lord0]

The Channel Dash/Operation Cerberus 

 

The part of the battle of the Philippine sea where the Japanese ran the gauntlet of the US PT boats and destroyers 

[TheAlba2014]

8 minutes ago, Lord0 said:

The Channel Dash/Operation Cerberus 

 

The part of the battle of the Philippine sea where the Japanese ran the gauntlet of the US PT boats and destroyers 

 

The second one sounds very doable already, already got the torpedo boats from Dunkirk, wonder how much work it would be to create this?

[piet11111]

25 minutes ago, Lord0 said:

The Channel Dash/Operation Cerberus 

 

The part of the battle of the Philippine sea where the Japanese ran the gauntlet of the US PT boats and destroyers 

I second the channel dash provided they put in the dutch wadden islands.

Afterall Scharnhorst did struck a mine near Terschelling so plenty of opportunity for some defensive moments.

 

[togMOR]

Second battle of Narvik comes to mind ...

We already have Warspite, suitable british and german destroyers and additionally submarines are in the making.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Narvik

[Camperdown]

I second Narvik

D-Day

Zeebrugge

Tsushima

Port Arthur

Guadalcanal

Taranto

Heligoland

Dieppe

St Nazaire

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[lovelacebeer]

The one historical operation I would most like to see implemented would be: 

 

Operation Pedestal from the Malta convoys, a massive force of allied warships (4 carriers, 2 battleships, 7 cruisers, 32 Destroyers and other ships too) working through Axis mine fields, constant air attacks as well as waves of enemy cruisers, DDs and the eboats we saw in Operation Dunkirk. 

 

 

 

[Aragathor]

Let's see:

Operation Wunderland - A perfect template for Axis only T6 OP.

Battle of Barents Sea - an escort mission for T8 ships.

Operation C - another good template for a T6 Axis OP.

[TheAlba2014]

I think WG are missing a trick here given the suggestions made already, it would inject some much needed freshness into the game as far as I'm concerned.

[lovelacebeer]

7 minutes ago, TheAlba2014 said:

I think WG are missing a trick here given the suggestions made already, it would inject some much needed freshness into the game as far as I'm concerned.

 

I personally fully agree with you, it's just a pity WG have lost all interest in operations.

[Yedwy]

Makes no difference what we dribble here, WG cant be ar*ed to maintain the handfull of OPS we have let alone make more...

 

They are even to lazy to make PvP versions of scenarios, all they want to do is pump out Premium ships and new lines of paper navies and ret**ded stuff like arms race, asymetrical battles, subs etc...

 

Oh and reintroduce broken premiums from the past with slight tweaks...

[NobleRipper]

I'd like to see one based on the Battle of Savo Island (night action, players as the Japanese squadron); I mentioned the Battle of the Rufiji Delta elsewhere (in-shore RN squadron bombarding a German cruiser in a riverine environment); the 1914 Battle of the Heligoland Bight would be interesting as well (German and British light forces backed up by battlecruisers). An Op. based on how the Dardanelles was supposed to go would be good too (task force proceeding down the narrows, suppressing forts and field guns on both sides, contending with the odd big ship).

[TheAlba2014]

5 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Makes no difference what we dribble here, WG cant be ar*ed to maintain the handfull of OPS we have let alone make more...

 

They are even to lazy to make PvP versions of scenarios, all they want to do is pump out Premium ships and new lines of paper navies and ret**ded stuff like arms race, asymetrical battles, subs etc...

 

Oh and reintroduce broken premiums from the past with slight tweaks...

 

Sad but too true 

 

Still...it's nice to dream sometimes

[lossi_2018]

look how much more interesting the game could be, it is sad to see so much potential wasted :/

[Beastofwar]

A "what if" channel dash type Operation, but with German ships tier 7 or 8. And not the historic ships per definition but a usual number of Ops player German ones.

 

RAF and coastal command scouting you, and a ( bot or even human ) UK Battlecruiser/Battleship force trying to intercept. That would give a nice challenge for German ships in Operations.

 

The ( mostly ) cruiser and DD  battles around Iron Bottom Sound in the Pacific are a good candidate sporting US and IJN Cruisers and DD methinks....no BB for a change

[waxx25]

Very few historical battles would make a good in-game scenario. 

A couple of events in the Pacific during WWII and several in the Atlantic during WWI.

Most ships were sunk in the classic way anybody dies during war, wrong place wrong time and nothing you could have done. iirc, the Atlanta was "teamkilled" by a sister ship during a night battle, New Orleans took a torpedo that literally took its nose off. The Fuso was bombed and torpedo. Bismarck got a lucky ammo rack on the hood and then smashed by airplanes. Battle of midway was pure CV and bad timing for the IJN forces. 

The biggest battle during WWI between german and British armadas can be a good choice though.

Edit: I may be wrong about some of these as I am going off memory alone.

[Yedwy]

Jutland would be nice but its just way to complex, we would need a svenario mission chain for that similar to stuff WOWS Blitz has as ops, however we wont see that in this game...

[Erinnyes2000]

Just now, waxx25 said:

The biggest battle during WWI between german and British armadas can be a good choice though.

You mean the Battle of Jutland?

Frankly, I'd be happy just to see Dynamo, Hermes, and Cherry Blossom return.

[Beastofwar]

13 minutes ago, waxx25 said:

Very few historical battles would make a good in-game scenario. 

A couple of events in the Pacific during WWII and several in the Atlantic during WWI.

Most ships were sunk in the classic way anybody dies during war, wrong place wrong time and nothing you could have done. iirc, the Atlanta was "teamkilled" by a sister ship during a night battle, New Orleans took a torpedo that literally took its nose off. The Fuso was bombed and torpedo. Bismarck got a lucky ammo rack on the hood and then smashed by airplanes. Battle of midway was pure CV and bad timing for the IJN forces. 

The biggest battle during WWI between german and British armadas can be a good choice though.

Edit: I may be wrong about some of these as I am going off memory alone.

Historical correct reenactments will be almost impossible, since there can only be a few specific ships in them, and no doubles.

 

But Operations loosly based on a historic battle with more freedom ( but set nationalities that can enter the Ops ) you should be able to get nice results. Most Operations are designed like that now....Port raid, port defence, convoy raid and so on. We just need more ( tiers )

 

Btw : Battle of Tsushima Strait...lets give those Ru and IJN ships in game a better purpose then low tier kindergarten,

[DanSilverwing]

The "World of Warships" vision in my head is soo much better than the one we have.

 

Lesta have created a fantastic amount of assets that are so under-utilised because they have no interest in game design. It's such a shame

[TheAlba2014]

15 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Jutland would be nice but its just way to complex, we would need a svenario mission chain for that similar to stuff WOWS Blitz has as ops, however we wont see that in this game...

 

I don't play Blitz so wasn't aware there were scenario based missions by WG. Is it that much more complicated to design these for the PC platform (I'm not a programmer in that sense so no clue on the technical side)?

[Yedwy]

Not really technically more complicated, besides Blitz is smaller and simpler game as such snd still does fine, but the framework of the missions is different, more tutorial like really, you progress from one step to the other by doing primary and have aditional reward by doing secondary tasks as well...

 

For instance one mission might ask you destroy 5 enemy ships in a given amount of time, next step is for instance catch and sink enemy cv that is trying to escape while enemy cruisers rry to stop you etc...

[TheAlba2014]

8 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Not really technically more complicated, besides Blitz is smaller and simpler game as such snd still does fine, but the framework of the missions is different, more tutorial like really, you progress from one step to the other by doing primary and have aditional reward by doing secondary tasks as well...

 

For instance one mission might ask you destroy 5 enemy ships in a given amount of time, next step is for instance catch and sink enemy cv that is trying to escape while enemy cruisers rry to stop you etc...

 

Ah right I get you now, wish they had a similar tutorial on PC for this game to teach which ammo to use and where to aim etc for new players.

 

I like the idea of a series of scripted campaign missions, imagine they did that over the course of a patch, instead of directives with a new mission part is released each week.

[doerhoff_damian]

Vor 1 Stunde, Erinnyes2000 sagte:

You mean the Battle of Jutland?

Frankly, I'd be happy just to see Dynamo, Hermes, and Cherry Blossom return.

Battle for Jutland would be an Option after the Release of German and British Battlecruisers.

I am also hoping for a Return of Dynamo, Hermes and cherry Blossom.

They can use the old RTS-Cv System on the CVs and just balance the Plane Health against the Current AA

[NobleRipper]

19 minutes ago, doerhoff_damian said:

Battle for Jutland would be an Option after the Release of German and British Battlecruisers.

I am also hoping for a Return of Dynamo, Hermes and cherry Blossom.

They can use the old RTS-Cv System on the CVs and just balance the Plane Health against the Current AA

Jutland would be somewhat too much for a single scenario, but one for each phase of the battle might be interesting.

 

A scenario based around the sinking of the Glorious, but scaled up to include more ships on both sides (could even have one version where the players take the part of the RN and another one the KM), would also work.

 

I'm not convinced by the idea of limiting ships to just one faction for an Op. though, given that as the mode currently stands it really can't afford to turn anyone away; of course if we're going full hypothetical (and let's face it, as has already been pointed out several times the prospect of any extra Ops coming in is pretty much just that at this point), it would be a neat idea to add some more character to things, although I think it would also be nice to have the option to do the Ops without restrictions as well in that case (how would the French fleet have fared in the Pacific, etc.).