Clan Battles: "Loop" Season

[The_EURL_Guy]

The Tenth Season of Clan Battles—Loop—kicks off during Update 0.9.6.

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[Pr1cken]

This season I will pass... CV no fun

[dinalt1879]

Hello.
Can you do the next clan season with Tier 1?

[YabbaCoe]

Před 1 minutou dinalt1879 řekl/a:

Hello.
Can you do the next clan season with Tier 1?

Why would you do next season on tier 1?

[quickr]

1. What exactly is the point of a tier 6 clan battle season? What game mechanic are you testing?

2. Why are CVs part of competitive game mode again? Community gave you clear feedback they didn't enjoy last season with CVs in it.

3. If I remember correctly, when CBs were tier 8, rewards were "toned down" to match the tier. Now it's tier 6 and rewards are almost(?) matching tier 10 rewards. Is that an attempt to "bribe" players to participate considering there is a boycott going on right now?

4. If competitive game modes don't have the appeal to broader audience (only small percentage of clans and players participate) why don't you let those that actually play and enjoy clan battles tailor it to their wishes and needs? There are numerous ideas and suggestions out there which would make clan battles more enjoyable.

[Hodajii]

It's great to have an alternative to this in the form of Community Clan Battles  

[Galaxy011]

Tier 6 ships have no AA so it will be a camping smoke meta, GG

[OM40]

another season and the same thing is happening...
 

 

[Maris_Piper]

20 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Why would you do next season on tier 1?

No CV's Maybe? 

[surfer_gr]

trier6 ahahahah no thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MarcoGn97]

The changes to DD air spotting and AA aura haven't been implemented yet, not even for this CB season right? 

[AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams]

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Why would you do next season on tier 1?

Mmmhhh. Let me see.

 

No sky piggies. No premiums. No radar and hydro. No radar and hydro going through islands and mountains.

[YabbaCoe]

Před 3 minutami AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams řekl/a:

Mmmhhh. Let me see.

 

No sky piggies. No premiums. No radar and hydro. No radar and hydro going through islands and mountains.

no DDs, no BBs, no APs, no torpedoes.. there is basically a ship with some guns, that's all... but indeed it would be interesting to see

[ImTryingButYouDontHelp]

Tier VI wouldn't be bad......but I think CVs are even more powerful at that tier, because there's no AA 

[entengeschwader]

Vor 3 Stunden, YabbaCoe sagte:

Why would you do next season on tier 1?

because there would be no CVs... what is so hard to understand this?!

Dont you understand your own game nor how it works?? It sadly seems so...

 

Or is your plan to remove skill, so every potato can get to highest league

Or do you want the capable players to quit the game?

 

 

[powerverde]

Ty for CBs with CV on tier VI now that summer times are up.

It would be a logistics nightmare to bring my PC to the beach, or even to the bar.

[AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams]

Stupid question: please tell me German cv are not allowed in CB as not everyone can get them (=Weser).

 

[Galaxy011]

52 minutes ago, AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams said:

Stupid question: please tell me German cv are not allowed in CB as not everyone can get them (=Weser).

 

They are allowed.

[HackoXakepa]

3 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

no DDs, no BBs, no APs, no torpedoes.. there is basically a ship with some guns, that's all... but indeed it would be interesting to see

Trying to make pathetic sarcasm don't help at all. I see that you are trying to defend the next dumb clan battles idea is a heroic from WG stuff. 

I really hope that the boycotting will become reality and FINALLY THE SPREADSHEET WON'T SAY THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE! 

 

And yes if you wonder we want odd tiers BECAUSE THERE ARE NO Aircraft Carriers! 

 

Even tier 7 with Belfast, Sinops and rest ot Soviet paper ships will be better than the Flying eye of Sauron. 

 

At the end with no sarcasm I want to ask, did you get it now?! 

[DanottiTR]

oh boy ... I can feel the ''cry me a river'' replies just becouse of two letters ..CV :D 

[HMS_Edinburgh_C16]

4 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

no DDs, no BBs, no APs, no torpedoes.. there is basically a ship with some guns, that's all... but indeed it would be interesting to see

haven't played tier 1 in a long time, we have desync at that tier too? how about fixing that crap? 

[PhantomSailor]

My guess.... very few clans will play because of Carriers.... so... this will be fun...

[HMS_Kilinowski]

We did some training battles. Up to now my impression is that we might get a variety of different tactics and different line-ups. It's not gonna be only two ships and CVs might not be that much of a factor in T6 as they were in T10.

The maps are much smaller. Even BB-line-ups with a good offensive approach are viable. CV-sniping is an option.

Ships with smoke are attractive, but most of them are premium ships and not every player will have them all. So one clan will work with Perths creeping smoke, while another will use italian or stationary smoke. Some clans will go for HE-dpm, while others will go for tanking power. Each clan will work with what they have and that will differ a lot, even depending on what players are online.

Especially T6 is not a tier with lots of dedicated 19pt-captains. Together with the limited number of ships, we should see a lot variety.

 

In comparison to CB in T10, if you puta 19pt-captain anywhere, it'S gonna be your T10 ships. Yes, premium ships, too, but they likely are from a similar silver ships. If I put a dedicated captain on a silver ship, it's mostly T10s first. Needless to say, Stalingrad works well with a survival built BB captain, so everyboy had one available. And as for the Venezia, there really isn't any better place to put a Sansonetti-Captain, so most players have it on Venezia and once it's there, might as well make it 19pts. So the T10 meta was determined by fixed factors.

 

T6 will be much different. There are hardly any heals in T6. People will have lots of Graf Spees after the dockyard event. BB calibers might decide which team gets decimated first. One thing I am sure of: Any clan with only mediocre CV-players but some decent BB-players, is better off, tailoring their strategy around a BB-push. It might well be, that BB-line-ups entirely dominate this meta. And if so, the CV issue would not be relevant from a practical point of view.

 

So I wouldn't write off this season, just because CVs are allowed. I felt that plane-spotting was less of an issue since the maps were small and teams spot each other rather early even without CVs.

 

But ofc that is just a preliminary impression and the meta might turn out to be a boring smoke camping and plane spotting meta. I however doubt it and in our training battles I had way more fun that in the preceding T10 season.

 

22 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Why would you do next season on tier 1?

 

Isn't the fact that we never had T1-CB reason enough? For a start WG might do a little fun event like a T1-Clan Brawl. Wouldn't hurt to have a little derp-event, would it?

 

Btw, since I sort of pinged you:

Concerning CBs in mid-tiers, Wargaming might consider allowing some free retraining of commanders. Retraining, not re-spec, mind you. The reason I see is that many veteran clans have lots of 19 pt captains available, whereas newb-clans will hardly have good captains on T6. They also will not have the CXP to retrain commanders from high-tiers back and forth just for a season. This issue is also linked to the missing rental ships they usually got at T10.

Just an idea, not for myself but for fairness sake.

[dforce105]

Even when hardly any clans play this season WG still won't listen to feed back, wait and see. They must want this game to die. None of my friends play at all anymore, even I barely login to see what's changed

[YabbaCoe]

Před 9 hodinami HMS_Kilinowski řekl/a:

We did some training battles. Up to now my impression is that we might get a variety of different tactics and different line-ups. It's not gonna be only two ships and CVs might not be that much of a factor in T6 as they were in T10.

The maps are much smaller. Even BB-line-ups with a good offensive approach are viable. CV-sniping is an option.

Ships with smoke are attractive, but most of them are premium ships and not every player will have them all. So one clan will work with Perths creeping smoke, while another will use italian or stationary smoke. Some clans will go for HE-dpm, while others will go for tanking power. Each clan will work with what they have and that will differ a lot, even depending on what players are online.

Especially T6 is not a tier with lots of dedicated 19pt-captains. Together with the limited number of ships, we should see a lot variety.

 

In comparison to CB in T10, if you puta 19pt-captain anywhere, it'S gonna be your T10 ships. Yes, premium ships, too, but they likely are from a similar silver ships. If I put a dedicated captain on a silver ship, it's mostly T10s first. Needless to say, Stalingrad works well with a survival built BB captain, so everyboy had one available. And as for the Venezia, there really isn't any better place to put a Sansonetti-Captain, so most players have it on Venezia and once it's there, might as well make it 19pts. So the T10 meta was determined by fixed factors.

 

T6 will be much different. There are hardly any heals in T6. People will have lots of Graf Spees after the dockyard event. BB calibers might decide which team gets decimated first. One thing I am sure of: Any clan with only mediocre CV-players but some decent BB-players, is better off, tailoring their strategy around a BB-push. It might well be, that BB-line-ups entirely dominate this meta. And if so, the CV issue would not be relevant from a practical point of view.

 

So I wouldn't write off this season, just because CVs are allowed. I felt that plane-spotting was less of an issue since the maps were small and teams spot each other rather early even with CVs.

 

But ofc that is just a preliminary impression and the meta might turn out to be a boring smoke camping and plane spotting meta. I however doubt it and in our training battles I had way more fun that in the preceding T10 season.

 

 

Isn't the fact that we never had T1-CB reason enough? For a start WG might do a little fun event like a T1-Clan Brawl. Wouldn't hurt to have a little derp-event, would it?

 

Btw, since I sort of pinged you:

Concerning CBs in mid-tiers, Wargaming might consider allowing some free retraining of commanders. Retraining, not re-spec, mind you. The reason I see is that many veteran clans have lots of 19 pt captains available, whereas newb-clans will hardly have good captains on T6. They also will not have the CXP to retrain commanders from high-tiers back and forth just for a season. This issue is also linked to the missing rental ships they usually got at T10.

Just an idea, not for myself but for fairness sake.

Thank you for your experience from training. I am also curious how this CBs will work. Of course I understand the concerns about CVs and announced boycott.

Every game mode in WoWs is voluntary, you don't need to play it, if you don't want to. Moving Clan Battles to tier VI, where indeed are CVs will provide somewhat new experience to players, that decide to take part for glory and steel; and also for us it will be very valuable data to see, how those expressed concerns work in mid tier competitive battles.

 

I can give a try to ask for free retraining of commanders, but I don't want to raise expectation with this.