dd A distinct lack of DD's

[Captain_Breeze]

Not sure if it's just me but it does seem there is a distinct lack of dd's in the game just now.

 

I like playing dd's, but lately it's just not fun, for me anyway. (I know, I know, git gud say the unicums)

 

Ok, Ok, sounds like another dd whinge/moan/complain post, and you'd be correct.

 

But if you were completely honest, you must agree with me.....or I'm a donkeys uncle 

 

Could it be anything to do with WG pushing extra mental Russian radar ships adding to the already tumultuous amount of radar already existing in the game.

 

Perhaps it's the latest push with German CV's and that Clan Wars now have CV's so everyone NEEDS to git gud in CV's, whither they want to or not.

 

I don't know, maybe I'm just getting a little jaded and cynical at the moment.

 

 

[ForlornSailor]

Must be the weather. Yea, couldnt possibly be something with the game. Ill blame the weather. Or Trump.

[VeryHonarbrah]

its called a cv rework + new cv line + new radar ships. I know in my clan a lot of people are taking breaks because of the current state of the game, with one of our dd mains simply quitting.

[Captain_Breeze]

8 minutes ago, VeryHonarbrah said:

its called a cv rework + new cv line + new radar ships. I know in my clan a lot of people are taking breaks because of the current state of the game, with one of our dd mains simply quitting.

Totally understand your Clan mate quitting. It's sad what WG are doing to dd's. I hope they have an answer to it soon.

[_HomTanks_]

27 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Not sure if it's just me but it does seem there is a distinct lack of dd's in the game just now.

 

I like playing dd's, but lately it's just not fun, for me anyway. (I know, I know, git gud say the unicums)

 

Ok, Ok, sounds like another dd whinge/moan/complain post, and you'd be correct.

 

But if you were completely honest, you must agree with me.....or I'm a donkeys uncle 

 

Could it be anything to do with WG pushing extra mental Russian radar ships adding to the already tumultuous amount of radar already existing in the game.

 

Perhaps it's the latest push with German CV's and that Clan Wars now have CV's so everyone NEEDS to git gud in CV's, whither they want to or not.

 

I don't know, maybe I'm just getting a little jaded and cynical at the moment.

 

 

I play dds daily and see between 2,3,4 dds on each team regularly. As a matter fact I haven’t come across without a dd game or with one dd game lately.

[ColonelPete]

30 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Not sure if it's just me but it does seem there is a distinct lack of dd's in the game just now.

 

I like playing dd's, but lately it's just not fun, for me anyway. (I know, I know, git gud say the unicums)

 

Ok, Ok, sounds like another dd whinge/moan/complain post, and you'd be correct.

 

But if you were completely honest, you must agree with me.....or I'm a donkeys uncle 

Nope.

 

DD numbers increased three weeks in a row now for Tier VII+

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20200711/eu_week/average_class_u.html

 

Last week we had slighlty above average DD numbers compared to the past two years (22.33% to 21.54%)

[Camperdown]

It seems DD numbers are declining a bit.

As a DD main, I had some initial trouble adjusting to the 3-4 radar cruisers and CV meta when the Rusky balans cruisers werd released. Have adjusted now and it's OK again, but I can imagine that less experienced DD captains have trouble and are moving to other ship classes.

1 poster on this forum suggested that WG is making life for DDs as miserable as possible, so that they can introduce subs into randoms later on. Bit of conspiracy thinking, but not inconsistent with what's happening 

[Amon_ITA]

Don't have a problem with radars when playing destroyers. The problem is the spotting and damage menace from carriers, that can come everywhere and anytime.

[Camperdown]

8 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Nope.

 

DD numbers increased three weeks in a row now for Tier VII+

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20200711/eu_week/average_class_u.html

 

Last week we had slighlty above average DD numbers compared to the past two years (22.33% to 21.54%)

It looks by estimate with my eyeball MK1 that for this period 22% is about average, with < 20% being low and > 24% being high. So 22% would indeed be about average.

[Captain_Breeze]

19 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said:

I play dds daily and see between 2,3,4 dds on each team regularly. As a matter fact I haven’t come across without a dd game or with one dd game lately.

Well, I have, that's all. Some games with no dd also......that's why I mentioned it.

[Captain_Breeze]

7 minutes ago, Amon_ITA said:

The problem is the spotting and damage menace from carriers, that can come everywhere and anytime.

You will notice I did mention CV's.

[Camperdown]

14 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Nope.

 

DD numbers increased three weeks in a row now for Tier VII+

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20200711/eu_week/average_class_u.html

 

Last week we had slighlty above average DD numbers compared to the past two years (22.33% to 21.54%)

Btw was Jan 19 the CV reeeeework?

[_HomTanks_]

5 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Well, I have, that's all. Some games with no dd also......that's why I mentioned it.

Right. I really like no dd games sometimes. It means citadel heaven 

[Captain_Breeze]

35 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Nope.

 

DD numbers increased three weeks in a row now for Tier VII+

To be fair your graph shows a drop at the end with a small rise, right about the time Russian cruisers were brought in. And your graph presents the past and not the present. We probably need to wait one more month as the introduction of the Russian radars and the German CV's has just happened.

 

You are always so abrupt @ColonelPete. Always with an opinion and feeling so righteous that you come across very condescending.

 

My OP was merely an opinion of what I have personally noticed. Of course I may be wrong overall.

 

Just cause you spend most of your time posting here rather than actually playing the game.......Zzzzzzzzzz to you mate.

 

 

 

 

[Molly_Delaney]

From casual observation; I tend to be in 3 or 4 DD matchs when I'm in a DD

and

zero DD matchs when I'm in a Cruiser, hence my tendency to play Cruisers like DDs.....

 

Obvious exception being the game I posted for help on.....

[_DeathWing_]

I find games without DDs lately. Last year that wasn't a thing. 

[ColonelPete]

14 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

Btw was Jan 19 the CV reeeeework?

2019 Feb 02

7 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

To be fair your graph shows a drop at the end with a small rise, right about the time Russian cruisers were brought in. And your graph presents the past and not the present. We probably need to wait one more month as the introduction of the Russian radars and the German CV's has just happened.

 

You are always so abrupt @ColonelPete, much like a Marxist I must say. Always with an opinion and feeling so righteous that you come across very condescending.

 

My OP was merely an opinion of what I have personally noticed. Of course I may be wrong overall.

 

Just cause you spend most of your time posting here rather than actually playing the game.......Zzzzzzzzzz to you mate.

With every CA line introduction you get a slight dip in DD numbers. This time it was much smaller than with the US CL split.

The graph presents the weekly numbers until Saturday. That is quite current.

If there is a new effect, we will see that with the next numbers, but it would dimish one week after that as the effects from new ships are usually temporary.

 

Just stating the facts and not personal opinion.

[Camperdown]

6 minutes ago, _DeathWing_ said:

I find games without DDs lately. Last year that wasn't a thing. 

Perhaps WG also changed something with MM, to have more diverse games. I would not think that a bad idea.

[GarrusBrutus]

Every time when I play a DD game I'm reminded why I don't play DDs regularly anymore. 

It's simply not fun having to deal with so many things in order to be effective. 

"Oh hey look, a 40%WR cv spotting me and ruining my attack plan."

"Oh hey look, 5 radars on the enemy team and I am the only dd."

"Cool, 7 out of the 12 enemy ships have hydro. Nice torps you have there."

 

Yeah no thanks. I'll stick to CAs. 

[Captain_Breeze]

10 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Just stating the facts and not personal opinion.

Big drop from May for 6 weeks, then a small rise, fact. The rise probably due to missions etc.

 

Any hoo, what I originally said was in fact what I have experienced and not opinion.

[_HomTanks_]

10 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

"Oh hey look, a 40%WR cv spotting me and ruining my attack plan."

"Oh hey look, 5 radars on the enemy team and I am the only dd."

"Cool, 7 out of the 12 enemy ships have hydro. Nice torps you have there."

 

 

[GraySlayer]

1 hour ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Not sure if it's just me but it does seem there is a distinct lack of dd's in the game just now.

 

I like playing dd's, but lately it's just not fun, for me anyway. (I know, I know, git gud say the unicums)

 

Ok, Ok, sounds like another dd whinge/moan/complain post, and you'd be correct.

 

But if you were completely honest, you must agree with me.....or I'm a donkeys uncle 

 

Could it be anything to do with WG pushing extra mental Russian radar ships adding to the already tumultuous amount of radar already existing in the game.

 

Perhaps it's the latest push with German CV's and that Clan Wars now have CV's so everyone NEEDS to git gud in CV's, whither they want to or not.

 

I don't know, maybe I'm just getting a little jaded and cynical at the moment.

 

 

 

It's not the radar that bothers me. I mean it does and I would rather there was less of it but I can play around it. A determined CV is another matter as I have no defense and no counter at all. I'm almost beside myself with joy when I get a no CV game :)

[ColonelPete]

6 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Any hoo, what I originally said was in fact what I have experienced and not opinion.

Really?

27 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

My OP was merely an opinion of what I have personally noticed.

 

7 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Big drop from May for 6 weeks, then a small rise, fact. The rise probably due to missions etc.

 

I marked the weeks were DD numbers were below the average of the last 109 weeks.

21.54% means 2.58 DD per team while 20.7% means 2.48 DD per team. So four weeks ago the DD numbers were indeed 0.1 DD per team below average...

[Hanse77SWE]

Look on the bright side.

 

Venezia is getting nerfed again.

[Beastofwar]

I see 1 or no DD one match and then 4 per side in the next match. 

 

No shortage of DD just poor distribution.

 

The new CV strike fighters seem to be anti-cruiser. So DD can not suffer more then usual. 

 

When playing DD myself i usually have little problems staking away from CV strike aircraft or radar. Because i don 't rush caps. I spot caps and beyond  untill allies softened up/  made them turn away the Cruisers preying on the capping DD.  Then it is much safer duelling an enemy DD and (re)taking the cap.

 

Of there is a shortage of DD it is not because of CV or radar but because of rushing to caps and failure to come up with any other ways to be succesful in DD.