shipbuilding scam

[mel1111]

I do wonder why already having Graf Spee I need to build that stupid ship again in order to be able to build another ship, which is not worth the money.

 

This game is getting more and more commercial and less and less "free to play"

 

It used to be a nice game to play with people who tried their best. Nowadays besides the weekend warriors you get the fat wallet players, who also destroy the fun in the game with their big ships not knowing what to do.

 

So all in all this game starts to be a scam

We spent a lot of money for premium time and whatever else, but apparently it was not enough for WOWS

 

[ColonelPete]

10 minutes ago, mel1111 said:

1. I do wonder why already having Graf Spee I need to build that stupid ship again in order to be able to build another ship, which is not worth the money.
2. This game is getting more and more commercial and less and less "free to play"
3. It used to be a nice game to play with people who tried their best. Nowadays besides the weekend warriors you get the fat wallet players, who also destroy the fun in the game with their big ships not knowing what to do.
4. So all in all this game starts to be a scam
5. We spent a lot of money for premium time and whatever else, but apparently it was not enough for WOWS

1. You do not need to
2. Free to play is free to play. There is no more or less free to play. The Spee is the perfect example.
3. No, it is people who have no interest in improving, not matter the size of their wallet. I could name an example
4. Please provide an example and please do not post stuff you were to lazy to read about
5. That is the reason you can still play this game for free?

[albin322]

42 minutes ago, mel1111 said:

I do wonder why already having Graf Spee I need to build that stupid ship again in order to be able to build another ship, which is not worth the money.

 

This game is getting more and more commercial and less and less "free to play"

 

It used to be a nice game to play with people who tried their best. Nowadays besides the weekend warriors you get the fat wallet players, who also destroy the fun in the game with their big ships not knowing what to do.

 

So all in all this game starts to be a scam

We spent a lot of money for premium time and whatever else, but apparently it was not enough for WOWS

 

wow seriously you cant be this '****** 

you get spee durring the time you biuld odin you dont build spee you just get it durring the way to odin. if its not worth the money to you then dont buy it seriously what are you angry about?. 

 

wekkend warriors yes but thats cause people have time to play then. new players are going to be worse then us veterans deal with it or the game dies from not getting new players. 

[PeteEarthling]

45 minutes ago, mel1111 said:

I do wonder why already having Graf Spee I need to build that stupid ship again in order to be able to build another ship, which is not worth the money.

It's free, so why are you complaining? You can get as many Spees as you are willing to grind, all for free. And you can still sell her for credits - in contrast to the terrible German CV abomination that was forced upon me (torps do no damage, Bombers fly in outer space, rocket reticle jumps hither and yonder and you get a ridiculous amount of ricochets)...

45 minutes ago, mel1111 said:

This game is getting more and more commercial and less and less "free to play"

Game companies do not provide you with games for charity reasons. Of course a business is commercial. Still, you are not forced to buy anything if you possess some skill and persistence to earn the stuff that is available for free.

[TeaAndTorps]

2 hours ago, mel1111 said:

I do wonder why already having Graf Spee I need to build that stupid ship again in order to be able to build another ship, which is not worth the money.

It's a reward you get halfway through building Odin though. Tbh I think *this* dockyard event is pretty transparent and well designed.

 

Certainly players with no understanding of how to play successfully being able to buy their way into high tiers is sub-optimal, to say the least. That's a different problem, however, and I'm afraid I don't see the 'scam' in either of them?

[SoothingWhaleSong]

Whilst I've been pissed at WG for more than a few decisions.

 

Getting 7,050,000 credits and a gerish camo because I already got the Graft Spee "free" during an event back in Winter 2016 isn't one of them.

 

This dockyard is vastly better than the PR fiasco that was the PR fiasco.

[COPlUM]

2 hours ago, mel1111 said:

This game is getting more and more commercial and less and less "free to play"

Turns out game developers need to eat, also people are buying stuff because they enjoy the game so you can play it for free & dislike it, apparently. Gaming is probably the best & cheapest hobby out there, I put gas in my motorcycle to enjoy it for half a day, same amount of money lets me enjoy warships for a year. I enjoy this particular event, am grinding my way to Hindenburg and got a free (fun!) premium T6 while doing it.

[COPlUM]

The dockyard is 3 things :

-A bunch of missions

-A bunch of free stuff

-A discounted premium battleship at the end if you want.

None of these things is in any way bad

[Atorpad]

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

That is the reason you can still play this game for free?

The only reason this game is still free to play is that no one would buy a copy .... and they know that !!!

[ColonelPete]

23 minutes ago, Atorpad said:

The only reason this game is still free to play is that no one would buy a copy .... and they know that !!!

• 100% false considering what people spend on this game
• they would make less money
• playerbase would be smaller

[Ronchabale]

3 hours ago, mel1111 said:

This game is getting more and more commercial and less and less "free to play"

Hmm..

Still free enough if u are good enough

3 hours ago, mel1111 said:

Nowadays besides the weekend warriors you get the fat wallet players, who also destroy the fun in the game with their big ships not knowing what to do.

The whales finance the whole game

3 hours ago, mel1111 said:

So all in all this game starts to be a scam

We spent a lot of money for premium time and whatever else, but apparently it was not enough for WOWS

Play at a lower tier 6-7 maybe 8 and you would have to be real useless at this to not get along with your in game finances

Dont use money on premium time if you cant afford to be without the money

 

[_HomTanks_]

3 hours ago, mel1111 said:

I do wonder why already having Graf Spee I need to build that stupid ship again in order to be able to build another ship, which is not worth the money.

 

But you don’t need to as it is optional.

 

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It used to be a nice game to play with people who tried their best. Nowadays besides the weekend warriors you get the fat wallet players, who also destroy the fun in the game with their big ships not knowing what to do.

 

This comment has nothing to do with thread title, does it?

 

There are still people trying their best when they play. The wallet players as you describe have always existed but make no mistake. There are wallet warriors in every skill level including super unicums and unicums.

 

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So all in all this game starts to be a scam

 

What is your base for such an allegation? You say this because you chose to complete the steps in dry dock which is free?

 

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We spent a lot of money for premium time and whatever else, but apparently it was not enough for WOWS

 

Most of us do, but again, what is the relevance here?

[Zen71_sniper]

1 hour ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

Turns out game developers need to eat,

Look, by now they are surely obese. 

 

WG is becoming progressively more scammy and predatory. Probably using retired KGB psycho-div cadres to design campaigns and events.... 

 

Spoiler

Please don't send me to gulag, this was just a joke!

 

[K82J]

I usually not afraid to kick WeeGee for their bad decisions, but i have to say now, this Dockyard is way better than the PR Dockyard was. Way more time to do it, way easier tasks ( did all in coop so far, and i am 1 task away from finishing the last available directive). Not to mention its easy to understand, no confusing layout and such.

 

At the end, i can end up with a T8 BB for less than a price of a T5 DD ( Hill is 3.8k dub). Players who didnt had either ship can earn like 15k dub worth of ships for 3.5k.

 

So i have to say, WG did way better job now, than the last time.

 

 

 

 

[lafeel]

5 minutes ago, K82J said:

I usually not afraid to kick WeeGee for their bad decisions, but i have to say now, this Dockyard is way better than the PR Dockyard was. Way more time to do it, way easier tasks ( did all in coop so far, and i am 1 task away from finishing the last available directive). Not to mention its easy to understand, no confusing layout and such.

 

At the end, i can end up with a T8 BB for less than a price of a T5 DD ( Hill is 3.8k dub). Players who didnt had either ship can earn like 15k dub worth of ships for 3.5k.

 

So i have to say, WG did way better job now, than the last time.

 

 

 

 

Doesn't hurt that the missions are, by and large, pretty easy to accomplish as well

[ZeroSkillPureLuck]

4 hours ago, mel1111 said:

I do wonder why already having Graf Spee I need to build that stupid ship again in order to be able to build another ship, which is not worth the money.

 

This game is getting more and more commercial and less and less "free to play"

 

It used to be a nice game to play with people who tried their best. Nowadays besides the weekend warriors you get the fat wallet players, who also destroy the fun in the game with their big ships not knowing what to do.

 

So all in all this game starts to be a scam

We spent a lot of money for premium time and whatever else, but apparently it was not enough for WOWS

 

 

Your conclusions are litteraly stupid and your stats prove it that you are not brightest kid on this planet:

https://wows-numbers.com/player/530766895,mel1111/

 

10k+ games 45% WR, 700 PR and what is worse.. you are not getting any better... so dont talk about weekend warriors bcs you are even worse than them. 

[Peroidas]

22 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Doesn't hurt that the missions are, by and large, pretty easy to accomplish as well

They still require me to play more than I would otherwise, so IMHO they require grinding. But they are reasonable for a person who play in free time and is not unicum. As result, WG may earn more than in PR event, as many more will spend cash to reach final objective. 

In PR grind I only planned to get Gorizia from the very start as even that was way more grind than I was willing to do. 

[lafeel]

16 minutes ago, Peroidas said:

They still require me to play more than I would otherwise, so IMHO they require grinding. But they are reasonable for a person who play in free time and is not unicum. As result, WG may earn more than in PR event, as many more will spend cash to reach final objective. 

In PR grind I only planned to get Gorizia from the very start as even that was way more grind than I was willing to do. 

Got her through a little hard work, and 8k doubloons myself.

[Ocsimano18]

It's a T8 premium BB, they would normally charge around 12500 doubloons for her upon release. If you think it to be trash then don't grind and pay for it, like you would ignore any new premium you consider as trash. Personally I want to get the ship, as an updated Tirpitz. I have 400+ games in Tirp, and a new take on it would be refreshing. The grind requirements are beyond my normal play, asI have to do a lot of co-op games, I would not do otherwise, but it's kind of acceptable amount of required gametime, and it was my choice to get it for 3500 doubloons, instead of the for the 8000 doubloons starter pack. Also I got around 3000 doubloons this year from free supercontainers, Twitch prime and other stuff, so it's basically free.

 

Graf Spee is not compensated with doubloons as WG would cut off any revenue from Veterans, who already have that ship. Also, Graf Spee as a second prize is for relatively new players, who don't have enough fleet variety to do the full grind.

 

The Puerto Rico event was morally unacceptable, but this one is fine. I'm more annoyed by the sound disaster coming with the latest patch along with WG's stinginess with the iron cross camos. Which one is better, a bargain T8 premium for 3500 doubloons, or an overpriced fluff for 7500?

[PeteEarthling]

53 minutes ago, Peroidas said:

They still require me to play more than I would otherwise, so IMHO they require grinding. But they are reasonable for a person who play in free time and is not unicum. As result, WG may earn more than in PR event, as many more will spend cash to reach final objective. 

In PR grind I only planned to get Gorizia from the very start as even that was way more grind than I was willing to do. 

Do those directives in coop only, and do them 5 times each, with whatever motley T5-T8 ship mix you can scratch together... THAT is what I call grinding... 

[Communist_Loli]

1 hour ago, Zen71_sniper said:

 

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Please don't send me to gulag, this was just a joke!

 

Come with me, comrade. 

 

There's always room for one more in my humble....establishment. 

[Floofz]

20 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

It's a T8 premium BB, they would normally charge around 12500 doubloons for her upon release. If you think it to be trash then don't grind and pay for it, like you would ignore any new premium you consider as trash. Personally I want to get the ship, as an updated Tirpitz. I have 400+ games in Tirp, and a new take on it would be refreshing. The grind requirements are beyond my normal play, asI have to do a lot of co-op games, I would not do otherwise, but it's kind of acceptable amount of required gametime, and it was my choice to get it for 3500 doubloons, instead of the for the 8000 doubloons starter pack. Also I got around 3000 doubloons this year from free supercontainers, Twitch prime and other stuff, so it's basically free.

 

Graf Spee is not compensated with doubloons as WG would cut off any revenue from Veterans, who already have that ship. Also, Graf Spee as a second prize is for relatively new players, who don't have enough fleet variety to do the full grind.

 

The Puerto Rico event was morally unacceptable, but this one is fine. I'm more annoyed by the sound disaster coming with the latest patch along with WG's stinginess with the iron cross camos. Which one is better, a bargain T8 premium for 3500 doubloons, or an overpriced fluff for 7500?

 

Odin will become a portqueen for me. It looks cool but in all honest its not a good ship and not even comparable to Tirpitz. The armor is a little better than Tirpitz and it has 3 second shorter main battery reload and hydro but in return. It has a hilariously small hp pool, the guns are TERRIBLE, horrificly inaccurate with garbage pen and not very good HE. Secondaries are close to useless because of terrible angles, you have to show almost full broadside for most of them to operate and even so they dont have the dpm of Tirpitz.

Feels like Odin sacrifices way too much to get torps and hydro at the same time, just isnt worth it for me, id pick Tirpitz any day of the week.

[ZifTTroll]

28 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Also, Graf Spee as a second prize is for relatively new players, who don't have enough fleet variety to do the full grind.

Exactly, I am by no means a veteran player and yet even for me who does not spend a penny in games I know there is something to look forward to for grinding (Graf Spee)

 

If OP doesnt want Odin then fine dont get it but to complain on the forums...

[Communist_Loli]

4 minutes ago, Floofz said:

 

Odin will become a portqueen for me. It looks cool but in all honest its not a good ship and not even comparable to Tirpitz. The armor is a little better than Tirpitz and it has 3 second shorter main battery reload and hydro but in return. It has a hilariously small hp pool, the guns are TERRIBLE, horrificly inaccurate with garbage pen and not very good HE. Secondaries are close to useless because of terrible angles, you have to show almost full broadside for most of them to operate and even so they dont have the dpm of Tirpitz.

Feels like Odin sacrifices way too much to get torps and hydro at the same time, just isnt worth it for me, id pick Tirpitz any day of the week.

I thought I saw somewhere that Odin had better accuracy than the Tirpitz, could be wrong... 

[PeteEarthling]

I have seen so many Odins die first without having done much damage these days... the combination of a bad ship and newbie players payers, I guess.